![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
M903.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 09:53, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
One can't consider that the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan was a stand-alone conflict, and that it existed in a vacuum. The war began with an insurrection against the communist government in 1978, that caused the Soviets to intervene, and this civil war between communists and rebels continued after 1989. So in fact, the war started BEFORE the Soviet intervention, and continued AFTER the Soviets had officially withdrawn.
Secondly, the Soviets were still heavily involved in Afghanistan even after they had officially withdrawn. They continued to pour billions of dollars worth of aid, mostly military equipment, at the DRA. Also Soviet "advisors" were still present in Afghanistan. For example, in May 1989, 2 months after the official withdrawal, a Soviet officer, General M.A. Gareev, was supervising the defense of Jalalabad. That's why it is misleading(not to mention official-Soviet POV) to say that the war ended in February 1989. Raoulduke47 11:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know the original source for the Washington Post statement that 523 Soviet troops were killed during the withdrawal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.226.95 ( talk) 14:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
192.80.65.234 ( talk) 00:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll be overhauling this article in the upcoming few weeks, and therefore am posting a new comment here. I seek to achieve the following objectives: 1. Refocusing the article on:
a) general events leading up to military withdrawal, b) on the process of withdrawal itself, c) on the impact of diplomatic efforts and military events preceding Soviet disengagement, d) on the immediate aftermath, and e) on media portrayal so as to create a comprehensive article detailing the nature and impact of the USSR's military withdrawal on resultant events.
2. Providing a more comprehensive timeline of events. 3. Adding academically valid sources. That's about it.
Re: comment about this not being a stand-alone conflict, about Soviet mil advisors remaining in Afghanistan, and about Soviet aid. ––– Sure, you're right. But I believe it would be beneficial to many if this episode of the Soviet-Afghan war were to be explored and detailed as a separate, auxiliary topic. Don't get caught up in the disjunction between nomenclature and particulars. What I mean to convey is that it would be a fair to say that the Soviet mil withdrawal from Afghanistan was characterised by the fact that advisors remained and aid was continued while the regular troops left. As such, it is still a characterisation of the process of withdrawal, because that's what this series of events is known as, not because all Soviet mil personnel left the country.
Please let me know if there are any matters I should take into consideration. My apologies for messing up the format here, I'm a noob. -- M903 ( talk) 14:41, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
![]() | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
M903.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 09:53, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
One can't consider that the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan was a stand-alone conflict, and that it existed in a vacuum. The war began with an insurrection against the communist government in 1978, that caused the Soviets to intervene, and this civil war between communists and rebels continued after 1989. So in fact, the war started BEFORE the Soviet intervention, and continued AFTER the Soviets had officially withdrawn.
Secondly, the Soviets were still heavily involved in Afghanistan even after they had officially withdrawn. They continued to pour billions of dollars worth of aid, mostly military equipment, at the DRA. Also Soviet "advisors" were still present in Afghanistan. For example, in May 1989, 2 months after the official withdrawal, a Soviet officer, General M.A. Gareev, was supervising the defense of Jalalabad. That's why it is misleading(not to mention official-Soviet POV) to say that the war ended in February 1989. Raoulduke47 11:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know the original source for the Washington Post statement that 523 Soviet troops were killed during the withdrawal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.226.95 ( talk) 14:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
192.80.65.234 ( talk) 00:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll be overhauling this article in the upcoming few weeks, and therefore am posting a new comment here. I seek to achieve the following objectives: 1. Refocusing the article on:
a) general events leading up to military withdrawal, b) on the process of withdrawal itself, c) on the impact of diplomatic efforts and military events preceding Soviet disengagement, d) on the immediate aftermath, and e) on media portrayal so as to create a comprehensive article detailing the nature and impact of the USSR's military withdrawal on resultant events.
2. Providing a more comprehensive timeline of events. 3. Adding academically valid sources. That's about it.
Re: comment about this not being a stand-alone conflict, about Soviet mil advisors remaining in Afghanistan, and about Soviet aid. ––– Sure, you're right. But I believe it would be beneficial to many if this episode of the Soviet-Afghan war were to be explored and detailed as a separate, auxiliary topic. Don't get caught up in the disjunction between nomenclature and particulars. What I mean to convey is that it would be a fair to say that the Soviet mil withdrawal from Afghanistan was characterised by the fact that advisors remained and aid was continued while the regular troops left. As such, it is still a characterisation of the process of withdrawal, because that's what this series of events is known as, not because all Soviet mil personnel left the country.
Please let me know if there are any matters I should take into consideration. My apologies for messing up the format here, I'm a noob. -- M903 ( talk) 14:41, 3 May 2017 (UTC)