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I think someone should delete the paragraph titled notable songs. First because it really misses notable songs and there are some that nobody would ever to expect But mainly because it's only an opinion, nothing more, based an author tastes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.51.15.20 ( talk) 12:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Also Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" (1973), why widely perceived as a 'redneck anthem'...also makes it clear that not all white southerners approved of George Wallace's views.
How so? It's pro-Wallace, contrasting Wallace, who had run for president, to Nixon, then involved in the Watergate scandal. Josh Cherry 16:23, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Is their a real need to have proof that skynyrd his an influence on kid rock who said their need to be a citation isnt it obvious he covers most of their catalog in concerts for god sakes and if isnt wearing his wifebeater hes wearing either a skynyrd or a seger shirt.
I've completed the cleanup requested of this article. Wasted Time R 20:20, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Discusion below copied from Talk:Country rock:
Is there any meaningful difference between "country rock" and Southern rock? Tuf-Kat 06:12, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
Southern Rock is arguably a fusion of country rock with blues rock, with a lyrical emphasis on Southern culture. Of course, all three subgenres are diverse and tend to overlap. Heck, the Marshall Tucker Band was countrier than most of what gets played on country radio these days. Just my 2¢. Archola 01:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
The earlier you go, the harder it is to differentiate between these three sub-genres. The Allman Brothers, an essental Southern Rock band, sounds just like blues-rock. The Marshal Tucker Band, as someone said previoulsy, sounds more like Country than most country today. I like to merge it all into the Southern Rock category, and not think to hard about the minimal differences. Allman Brothers, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Tom Petty, Poco, The Band, Creedence, JJ Cale, Dr. John, Fats Domino, Charlie Daniels, Marshall Tucker, The Doobs. Even though these guys aren't all from the South, I still think of them as "Southern Rock". X24actor ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
There is a difference. I think Country Rock is different from Southern Rock because not all music from the south is country and they sound different. Its more of a modern term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.152.106.163 ( talk) 02:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not an expert in these styles of music. Which means you should listen to me-- this is an encyclopedia after all. I've read this article and have not come away with any understanding of what Southern rock is. Or rather, I'd say it's rock played by bands from the South that sing using a regional accent and play songs that are about life in the South. In other words, it's really about the identity of the artists rather than the music they create. And that seems like a lazy way of looking at music.
Do ' Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' deserve to be listed in this article? It sounds like Southern rock to me and he is from Gainesville, FL.
Someone reverted my edit back to: One notable exception was Texas' ZZ Top, who had started in 1970 and were the final band mentioned in "The South's Gonna Do It". I corrected that it wasn't the last band mentioned in the song, "The South's Gonna Do It," because Wet Willie and CDB (that counts too) were mentioned after. Didgepenguin
During a 2006 Clearwater, Florida ZZ Top concert Billy Gibbons was heard to say "The same three guys...right here...The same three cords...right here...And we been doing it for 35 years". Karstdiver 05:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
DaT is stated as a southern metal band, but they have no wiki page and the link sends you to a King Of The Hill episode... Yeah... ( -Kid. 17:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC))
Just to clarify, the Eagles are not Southern Rock, they are a Country Rock band.
I think the sections should stay, I'll clean it up a little, remove dead links and bands that aren't of sourthern metal or even southern rock influence. If you want to add another band you think would fit the genre make sure that they actually do fit the genre. ( -Kid. 12:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)) Anyway yeah, don't just add a bunch of new bands. I picked some of the bands that seemed most appropriate. If you think we should make a list of all the southernmetal and southernrock influenced bands, just start a new wikipage of a list of them.
I hate to tell y'all, but Blackfoot started Southern Metal around the time of the Marauder and Siogo albums. They were in metal magazines in Britain back then. I remember. They were HUGE with metal guys in Britain back then.
You have to remember the times. Back then AC-DC and the Scorpions were considered metal. Blackfoot toured with them and gleaned new sounds to add to Southern Rock. LUKEjaywalker 10:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good, put it in ^.^;; haha that sounds dirty ( -Kid. 04:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC))
Except that in those times in Britain the genre was always referred to as "Southern Boogie" I can fully endorse Luke Jaywalker's recollection. Jatrius ( talk) 12:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it me or is "southern metal" a completely original neologism? A quick Google search brings mostly results concerning metal spinners, choppers, fabricators, etc. I would consider deleting the entire section, for there are no reliable sources whatsoever that attest the existence and notability of that movement. Zouavman Le Zouave 15:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Removed the metal section, it's original research and is really off topic here. Also removed the song section, it was just a list of random songs. If you can't add something tot he prose that's a pretty good sign it's not needed in the article. Ridernyc ( talk) 02:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
this confuses me southern metal has been redirected here, with no mention of southern metal on this page and while the old southern metal article was poorly written, its not reason to completely purge the genre from wikipedia JEMdev ( talk) 03:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Copied over from my talkpage:-- SabreBD ( talk) 20:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
I understand the need for sourcing but what would you consider sufficient sourcing for that edit, which only adds the genre of the artists already listed (originally incorrectly listed as metal). I did not think anyone would have a problem with it as it stands but if they did, they only need to read up on the bands listed to see they are not metal. Why and what source would be necessary? Harshmustard ( talk) 20:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)Harshmustard
Edit: I changed the title of this talk topic as it is misleading- the issue isn't the hardcore origins of anything, but the influence of southern rock on metal and hardcore, separately Harshmustard ( talk) 22:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
This is in need of a much needed clean up, yet again. Mainly organization... as well as at least SOME clarification as to what Southern Metal is, or is not. Also, I'm thinking we need to delve more into the influences the genre has/had on Sludge, Stoner, etc... I will start some of the changes myself within the next month or so... Please help however you can... and REMEMBER, reliable sources are your friends.
Yours Southernly,
Ol Red33 ( talk) 18:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Is the "s" capitalized or not? This article has it both ways...
23haveblue ( talk) 13:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Fans of each of the bands listed in the first paragraph should listen closely to their music and check the Wikipedia pages. I'm about to remove ZZ Top from the list/page, as they're not remotely close in origins or style, going both by WP's page for the band and countless hours enjoying both Southern rock in general & ZZ Top's full discography -- I suspect they're not the only ones wrongly included. — Xyzzy☥the☥Avatar 00:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the article contains the following sentence:
This is an oddly phrased sentence for two reasons:
A top 10 is now added ( Nicovanderwielen ( talk) 13:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC))
I can't believe that people forget some new good southern rock bands like Skinny Molly or Whisky Myers, but forget BBS it's a sin!!! They're the southern rock band of the 21st Century by far.
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I think someone should delete the paragraph titled notable songs. First because it really misses notable songs and there are some that nobody would ever to expect But mainly because it's only an opinion, nothing more, based an author tastes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.51.15.20 ( talk) 12:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Also Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" (1973), why widely perceived as a 'redneck anthem'...also makes it clear that not all white southerners approved of George Wallace's views.
How so? It's pro-Wallace, contrasting Wallace, who had run for president, to Nixon, then involved in the Watergate scandal. Josh Cherry 16:23, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Is their a real need to have proof that skynyrd his an influence on kid rock who said their need to be a citation isnt it obvious he covers most of their catalog in concerts for god sakes and if isnt wearing his wifebeater hes wearing either a skynyrd or a seger shirt.
I've completed the cleanup requested of this article. Wasted Time R 20:20, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Discusion below copied from Talk:Country rock:
Is there any meaningful difference between "country rock" and Southern rock? Tuf-Kat 06:12, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
Southern Rock is arguably a fusion of country rock with blues rock, with a lyrical emphasis on Southern culture. Of course, all three subgenres are diverse and tend to overlap. Heck, the Marshall Tucker Band was countrier than most of what gets played on country radio these days. Just my 2¢. Archola 01:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
The earlier you go, the harder it is to differentiate between these three sub-genres. The Allman Brothers, an essental Southern Rock band, sounds just like blues-rock. The Marshal Tucker Band, as someone said previoulsy, sounds more like Country than most country today. I like to merge it all into the Southern Rock category, and not think to hard about the minimal differences. Allman Brothers, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Tom Petty, Poco, The Band, Creedence, JJ Cale, Dr. John, Fats Domino, Charlie Daniels, Marshall Tucker, The Doobs. Even though these guys aren't all from the South, I still think of them as "Southern Rock". X24actor ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
There is a difference. I think Country Rock is different from Southern Rock because not all music from the south is country and they sound different. Its more of a modern term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.152.106.163 ( talk) 02:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not an expert in these styles of music. Which means you should listen to me-- this is an encyclopedia after all. I've read this article and have not come away with any understanding of what Southern rock is. Or rather, I'd say it's rock played by bands from the South that sing using a regional accent and play songs that are about life in the South. In other words, it's really about the identity of the artists rather than the music they create. And that seems like a lazy way of looking at music.
Do ' Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' deserve to be listed in this article? It sounds like Southern rock to me and he is from Gainesville, FL.
Someone reverted my edit back to: One notable exception was Texas' ZZ Top, who had started in 1970 and were the final band mentioned in "The South's Gonna Do It". I corrected that it wasn't the last band mentioned in the song, "The South's Gonna Do It," because Wet Willie and CDB (that counts too) were mentioned after. Didgepenguin
During a 2006 Clearwater, Florida ZZ Top concert Billy Gibbons was heard to say "The same three guys...right here...The same three cords...right here...And we been doing it for 35 years". Karstdiver 05:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
DaT is stated as a southern metal band, but they have no wiki page and the link sends you to a King Of The Hill episode... Yeah... ( -Kid. 17:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC))
Just to clarify, the Eagles are not Southern Rock, they are a Country Rock band.
I think the sections should stay, I'll clean it up a little, remove dead links and bands that aren't of sourthern metal or even southern rock influence. If you want to add another band you think would fit the genre make sure that they actually do fit the genre. ( -Kid. 12:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)) Anyway yeah, don't just add a bunch of new bands. I picked some of the bands that seemed most appropriate. If you think we should make a list of all the southernmetal and southernrock influenced bands, just start a new wikipage of a list of them.
I hate to tell y'all, but Blackfoot started Southern Metal around the time of the Marauder and Siogo albums. They were in metal magazines in Britain back then. I remember. They were HUGE with metal guys in Britain back then.
You have to remember the times. Back then AC-DC and the Scorpions were considered metal. Blackfoot toured with them and gleaned new sounds to add to Southern Rock. LUKEjaywalker 10:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good, put it in ^.^;; haha that sounds dirty ( -Kid. 04:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC))
Except that in those times in Britain the genre was always referred to as "Southern Boogie" I can fully endorse Luke Jaywalker's recollection. Jatrius ( talk) 12:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Is it me or is "southern metal" a completely original neologism? A quick Google search brings mostly results concerning metal spinners, choppers, fabricators, etc. I would consider deleting the entire section, for there are no reliable sources whatsoever that attest the existence and notability of that movement. Zouavman Le Zouave 15:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Removed the metal section, it's original research and is really off topic here. Also removed the song section, it was just a list of random songs. If you can't add something tot he prose that's a pretty good sign it's not needed in the article. Ridernyc ( talk) 02:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
this confuses me southern metal has been redirected here, with no mention of southern metal on this page and while the old southern metal article was poorly written, its not reason to completely purge the genre from wikipedia JEMdev ( talk) 03:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Copied over from my talkpage:-- SabreBD ( talk) 20:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
I understand the need for sourcing but what would you consider sufficient sourcing for that edit, which only adds the genre of the artists already listed (originally incorrectly listed as metal). I did not think anyone would have a problem with it as it stands but if they did, they only need to read up on the bands listed to see they are not metal. Why and what source would be necessary? Harshmustard ( talk) 20:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)Harshmustard
Edit: I changed the title of this talk topic as it is misleading- the issue isn't the hardcore origins of anything, but the influence of southern rock on metal and hardcore, separately Harshmustard ( talk) 22:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
This is in need of a much needed clean up, yet again. Mainly organization... as well as at least SOME clarification as to what Southern Metal is, or is not. Also, I'm thinking we need to delve more into the influences the genre has/had on Sludge, Stoner, etc... I will start some of the changes myself within the next month or so... Please help however you can... and REMEMBER, reliable sources are your friends.
Yours Southernly,
Ol Red33 ( talk) 18:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Is the "s" capitalized or not? This article has it both ways...
23haveblue ( talk) 13:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Fans of each of the bands listed in the first paragraph should listen closely to their music and check the Wikipedia pages. I'm about to remove ZZ Top from the list/page, as they're not remotely close in origins or style, going both by WP's page for the band and countless hours enjoying both Southern rock in general & ZZ Top's full discography -- I suspect they're not the only ones wrongly included. — Xyzzy☥the☥Avatar 00:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the article contains the following sentence:
This is an oddly phrased sentence for two reasons:
A top 10 is now added ( Nicovanderwielen ( talk) 13:40, 22 July 2020 (UTC))
I can't believe that people forget some new good southern rock bands like Skinny Molly or Whisky Myers, but forget BBS it's a sin!!! They're the southern rock band of the 21st Century by far.