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If anyone has any information about the closed stations on the line that would be really interesting to have in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.181.251.66 ( talk • contribs)
I've always wondered where the line was supposed to go before it was interrupted by the Shoalhaven River. Joestella 08:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Could somebody with the proper geographical knowledge please add a line diagramm (like here)? I was making an effort but cannot get it straight, the text is much too confusing and if at least the enumeration of the stations was in the right order. There also seem to be contradictions between the text and the enumeration. Thank you very much for your help! MichaelXXLF 10:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't really see the point in not having a diagram in a city line, too. But I have also learned that some people in Wikipedia have very strong feelings about certain things, quite irreproducible for others. Anyway I would very much appreciate a diagram and am gladly willing to put in some work as well. I speak German, maybe those abbreviations are easier to handle for me? Let me know what I could do! MichaelXXLF 18:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you think a kml file would be useful ? [Newnes railway line] (it's down the bottom, on the right) and looks like this [1] Dave Rave ( talk) 10:07, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
The tracks themselves are called the Illawarra Line, which officially extends from the Flying Junctions at Central to the terminus at Bomaderry/Nowra. The Illawarra Locals extend from Hurstville to platforms 20 and 22 at Central. What Sydney Trains, NSW Train Link, CityRail, CountryLink, State Rail or the NSWGR market or marketed the services as is somewhat irrelevant. The lines are called, in any technical or official context, the Illawarra Line. I think the title of the article should reflect this, instead of the current "South Coast Line" name which is only used by one of the operators on this line as a brand name. 49.181.184.229 ( talk) 13:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 5 7 16:20, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
South Coast railway line, New South Wales → Illawarra railway line – There has been a discussion that has been started recently regarding the proper name of the railway line between Redfern and Bomaderry. The official name is the South Coast railway line, though the line is more commonly referred to as the Illawarra railway line. Mo7838 has also pointed out that some official documents still call this stretch of track the Illawarra line. I think it's only appropriate that there be a discussion, with as many people involved, preferably from WikiProject Sydney and Australian editors at WikiProject Trains, on deciding what this railway be referred to, at the very least, on Wikipedia. --Relisted. PhilipTerryGraham ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 00:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC) PhilipTerryGraham ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 07:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
“ | Operationally and historically, the entire line from the Illawarra Junction at Redfern to its terminus in Bomaderry on the South Coast was known as the "Illawarra Line". However, since 1989 Sydney Trains has marketed the suburban services to Waterfall and Cronulla as the "Illawarra line" and interurban services south to Wollongong and Bomaderry as the South Coast Line. | ” |
These two articles cover remarkably similar ground and don't really stand on their own. Although it would be theoretically possible to discuss services in one and infrastructure in the other, since the infrastructure dictates what services can be provided and the service strategy dictates what infrastructure is required in future, the two stories are utterly intertwined. To a lay reader, the distinction between the South Coast Line and the South Coast railway line is likely to be needlessly confusing. To an editor, it doubles and complicates the workload when changes are made to the operation of the line. I therefore propose that the South Coast Line service pattern and Waterfall– Port Kembla/ Bomaderry infrastructure material be combined in this article. (The line north of Waterfall is ably covered in Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra Line, which I see won featured article status in 2007.) Mqst north ( talk) 10:34, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
The sequence isn't about modern day services - it isn't even about the extant railway infrastructure. It covers areas in Sydney and the Illawarra. It just doesn't fit comfortably into either article about the passenger services. Across the three articles, there is also scant mention of the freight services that use the line. This article would be the logical place for such information, not the articles about passenger services. Some of the recent splitting of infrastructure from services is unnecessary, but in this instance I think it's an improvement that solves a long-standing structural problem. I'll propose merges for the Olympic Park and Carlingford lines. Gareth ( talk) 19:32, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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If anyone has any information about the closed stations on the line that would be really interesting to have in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.181.251.66 ( talk • contribs)
I've always wondered where the line was supposed to go before it was interrupted by the Shoalhaven River. Joestella 08:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Could somebody with the proper geographical knowledge please add a line diagramm (like here)? I was making an effort but cannot get it straight, the text is much too confusing and if at least the enumeration of the stations was in the right order. There also seem to be contradictions between the text and the enumeration. Thank you very much for your help! MichaelXXLF 10:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't really see the point in not having a diagram in a city line, too. But I have also learned that some people in Wikipedia have very strong feelings about certain things, quite irreproducible for others. Anyway I would very much appreciate a diagram and am gladly willing to put in some work as well. I speak German, maybe those abbreviations are easier to handle for me? Let me know what I could do! MichaelXXLF 18:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you think a kml file would be useful ? [Newnes railway line] (it's down the bottom, on the right) and looks like this [1] Dave Rave ( talk) 10:07, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
The tracks themselves are called the Illawarra Line, which officially extends from the Flying Junctions at Central to the terminus at Bomaderry/Nowra. The Illawarra Locals extend from Hurstville to platforms 20 and 22 at Central. What Sydney Trains, NSW Train Link, CityRail, CountryLink, State Rail or the NSWGR market or marketed the services as is somewhat irrelevant. The lines are called, in any technical or official context, the Illawarra Line. I think the title of the article should reflect this, instead of the current "South Coast Line" name which is only used by one of the operators on this line as a brand name. 49.181.184.229 ( talk) 13:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Copied from User talk:Mo7838
The result of the move request was: not moved. Number 5 7 16:20, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
South Coast railway line, New South Wales → Illawarra railway line – There has been a discussion that has been started recently regarding the proper name of the railway line between Redfern and Bomaderry. The official name is the South Coast railway line, though the line is more commonly referred to as the Illawarra railway line. Mo7838 has also pointed out that some official documents still call this stretch of track the Illawarra line. I think it's only appropriate that there be a discussion, with as many people involved, preferably from WikiProject Sydney and Australian editors at WikiProject Trains, on deciding what this railway be referred to, at the very least, on Wikipedia. --Relisted. PhilipTerryGraham ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 00:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC) PhilipTerryGraham ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 07:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
“ | Operationally and historically, the entire line from the Illawarra Junction at Redfern to its terminus in Bomaderry on the South Coast was known as the "Illawarra Line". However, since 1989 Sydney Trains has marketed the suburban services to Waterfall and Cronulla as the "Illawarra line" and interurban services south to Wollongong and Bomaderry as the South Coast Line. | ” |
These two articles cover remarkably similar ground and don't really stand on their own. Although it would be theoretically possible to discuss services in one and infrastructure in the other, since the infrastructure dictates what services can be provided and the service strategy dictates what infrastructure is required in future, the two stories are utterly intertwined. To a lay reader, the distinction between the South Coast Line and the South Coast railway line is likely to be needlessly confusing. To an editor, it doubles and complicates the workload when changes are made to the operation of the line. I therefore propose that the South Coast Line service pattern and Waterfall– Port Kembla/ Bomaderry infrastructure material be combined in this article. (The line north of Waterfall is ably covered in Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra Line, which I see won featured article status in 2007.) Mqst north ( talk) 10:34, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
The sequence isn't about modern day services - it isn't even about the extant railway infrastructure. It covers areas in Sydney and the Illawarra. It just doesn't fit comfortably into either article about the passenger services. Across the three articles, there is also scant mention of the freight services that use the line. This article would be the logical place for such information, not the articles about passenger services. Some of the recent splitting of infrastructure from services is unnecessary, but in this instance I think it's an improvement that solves a long-standing structural problem. I'll propose merges for the Olympic Park and Carlingford lines. Gareth ( talk) 19:32, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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