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Add in the Japanese text for Sonic The Hedgehog. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
I can't find no fool's name by Sonikku Harinezumi >x<ino 11:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
The Official Name used in Japanese is "Sonikku za Hejjihoggu", in relation to the name used with the rest of the world. - Judacris 08:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I believe some Japanese people or fans refer to him as Sonikku Harinezumi (like for example, Rad Red is a nickname for Knuckles, or Shad is a nickname for Shadow in the English fanbase) though Sega officially refers to him as Sonikku za Hejjihoggu.
Yes, i do know that and most people do know that. If you play Sonic Adventure, and set the Voice/Language to Japanese, when a characters calls out's SOnic's name, in the subtitle it will be spelled out "Soniku"
But this is Wiki, not many people know about Shad or Rad Red, because we do not know most of the fans speak
I've just edited a load of links and references to "Sonic the Retard", "Stupid Sonic", "Sonic the Fast Person" and "Sonic Advent". Is this the first time such edits have been made necessary on this page? -- L T Dangerous 16:53, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
More vandals, a user of 68.195.8.254 changed the entire article to "All wrong shadow can totaly destroy sonic" recently. Is there any way to block such direspect of Wikipedia? chess.and.cookies@gmail.com 04:14, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
In other news, I did notice somebody's up and trying to start up the image war again. *grumble* -- Shadow Hog 05:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Baka ni gaijo! [This was where Darth Katana X mistakenly accused Yeltensic42 of vandalism; this note is here so that readers won't be completely confused by the following discussion]
Please don't make a mountain out of a molehill. There was a little misunderstanding, that's all. See my post on User talk:Darth Katana X. To make it clear to anyone reading this who didn't see what he was talking about, I did not commit any vandalism. Yeltensic42.618 14:55, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
LOL, Yeltensic42.618 you also did an edit, on Sonic the Hedgehog characters who have died, knowly stating Shadow may have fallen to his death. Which it isn't true
>x<ino 00:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Well I haven't played the Shadow game yet, so I was under the impression that whether or not he died was uncertain, but apparently it gets cleared up then. Well, thanks for correcting it, but no thanks for calling me a fool in your edit summary, that was pretty unneccesary, but why did you mention it here on this Vandalism thread? It wasn't vandalism. You seem to be following Darth's lead, why?
Yeltensic42.618
17:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
LOL, sorry for calling you fool i know it wasn't neccessary, but i like that word, thanks to MR T:P
Darth's Lead:O, no i am not.. i hate following evil way,... it's like Dark Vadal:P
>x<ino 21:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Darth Katana X is evil? How is that? I think he just misunderstood me and overreacted. Yeltensic42.618 22:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
like i said before..."EVIL!"
yea, they may be some misunderstanding...or They could be an misundertstanding
>x<ino
20:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
by the way...
can some one tell me why this is here? has seen in the manual...we dont need that
When Mario won and Sonic lost, what did AMY ROSE do? --User:ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
Are you talking about the Sonic vs Mario end? i don't know what Amy the hoe did to Sonic...you know what she did:P >x<ino 08:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, after Sega left the console Market, AMY ROSE felt sad that Sonic lost. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
Sonic dose,nt lose he stupidly(Funny,and vulgarly) wins as Super Sonic in the the lost ending haven,t you seen it try typing in on Yahoo or Google Sonic Vs Mario--??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.192.201.154 ( talk • contribs) .
You people are off-topic!! This is a flash you are talking about!! - 70.241.64.243 08:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC) Evil Sonic
The edit wars seem sufficiently over and the article seems to be very thourough, so, maybe it's time to nomintate it for featured article status. Does anyone else agree or am I totally mistaken? -- ChessAndCookies 01:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd agree. It it Time. -- Judacris 09:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
what do you mean nomintate? you mean, it will be nominated for better improvements? like from before to after!?:P >x<ino 14:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
It's almost ready. Just move all the crap on the non-canon Sonic's love life to a different article. I also think we should focus on Sonic X a little more. After all, that's a lot closer to the "real" Sonic universe than the comics. -- Darth Katana X
I like the current condition of the page (without the vandalism, of course). The images I find we needed are all there. -- Judacris 06:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I actually think the Archie part should stay. It's verifiable and doesn't need to be erased. And Sonic X isn't very real, to tell the truth (especially since characters like Chris will not be in the games). And, if you haven't noticed, Sonic is less decisive and hardly talks, which is very different from the game. --anon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2005 71.105.0.87 ( talk • contribs) 00:37, 12 December.
What's the deal with all the archaic Sonic the Hedgehog pictures? This guide needs more pictures from Heroes, yo! -- Darth Katana X
Yeah, that makes sense. But I think we could replace just a couple of those old illustrations with new renders. -- Darth Katana X
I'm trying to add as much relevant pictures to this page as possible without swamping the text. -- Steerpike 22:18, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
The article says that the games take place on the South Island in the Pacific (I'll assume that means New Zealand) and that Sonic was born on Christmas Island (presumably Australia), but what is the source for that? I haven't seen that anywhere else, eg in canonical sources (I hope this doesn't sound like I'm accusing others of making things up). Yeltensic42.618 07:29, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
In the anime, which is generally considered canon, Sonic lives on South Island, but probably not the same South Island, seeing as it's set on Planet Freedom. Gives you something to think about. -- Darth Katana X
Do you mean seeing the Earth from orbit? The only recent game I've played is Heroes (in fact, that was the first Sonic game I ever played...I was always a Nintendo-ite in the rivalry era, and by age missed the original craze anyway). As for the Genesis manuals, I think Mobius was an invention of the Western comics, and was mentioned games like Mean Bean Machine that were intended to promote the comics, but not in the main games. Was there also a source (non-canon) that had Eggman coming to Mobius from Earth? Yeltensic42.618 01:07, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't see why we have to believe that Sonic is from Earth. I understand that Prof. Gerald knows of the chaos emeralds, but this could be that Gerald had a portal to Sonic's planet (possibly Mobius). This could explain the reason why Robotnik is the only human in the old sonic series that he used Gerald's portal (sorry for the fanfic), but please don't write this on the main page. I'm sorry if I have have offended anyone who has researched this more than me, I have also added discussion on E-series. (I don't have a user name). But please add more theories underneath this.
Besides perhaps a few fanfics, I'd say no. --
Darth Katana X
Response to comment involving Prof. Gerald's portal: The Sonic X TV show is not part of the SegaSonic canon and has nothing to do with the games. The facts that comes directly from Sega are the true facts and Sonic being from Earth is proven by the game manuals begining with the first game.
How would we know that South Island is still Sonic's home and that the games made after Sonic 1 take place there if they take place in other locations like Westside Island (Sonic 2) and Angel Island (Sonic 3 & Knuckles)? He seems to have been moving around all over the place after the first game, and not just the Pacific Ocean.
Is the "Theme Songs" section really necessary? I Mean, it's not as if the song's there for download. -- Judacris 08:24, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Yea that is i am saying, all information enterd in Sonic game's and related, the similar information should be inputted
>x<ino 14:59, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
To avoid flooding this page with discussion of Sonic's love life, at Darth Katana X's suggestion I have set up User talk:Yeltensic42/Sonic Love Life. Please discuss it there, not here. Yeltensic42.618 22:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
I've added this article to the list of good articles, hoping to get this article more attention so it will hopefully eventually become a featured article. Does any agree/disagree? chess.and.cookies@gmail.com 05:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
I've started the References section using the source for the "Christmas Island" and "South Island" notes. Incidentally, the website (created by The GHZ member, big smile) should prove a valuable source for, well, sourcing all this stuff we need sourced before this can become a FA, or even a GA. -- Shadow Hog 17:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
I check the "Books" section, for this article
I am sorry to say this, but it is
The Comic Books was alright,
Also for the novels It's also like encouraging people to buy/search and buy the book
Anyway, we will sort that sh@t out later:P
Because most visitors that come in, will apperciate the article, but will still wonder how many games has been produced for Sonic
So...i am say,
>x<ino 21:41, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
No point, i found the link [ [1]] >x<ino 21:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed the section of the intro referring to a Sonic website and his various presence online. It was pretty out-of-place in the intro, especially with s seemingly random list of characters.
I mention this here onle because the concept of Sonic's online presence has the potential for a proper section within the article - as far as I've seen, quite a bit could be said about it if one were to do proper research.
I'm certainly not going to, but it'd be interesting to see what someone could come up with.
That aside, the removed section just didn't fit into the article by itself, especially in the intro.
SonOfNothing
03:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
You mean Megaman X?
>x<ino 01:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I noticed, as I did an edit, that there's something that says the Sonic Page is 30kb. Which, as the Wiki Page regarding Article size says that a page over 32kb may lead to division. I dunno, I'm just concerned. - Judacris 03:00, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Not really, but your computer will take longer to save the page on the article. So you should separate some stuff to different pages. --anon
Well, actually, you should, cause I wouldn't like to wait a long time or have a "page cannot be displayed...". --anon
We seem to have a lot of information of Sonic, the sonic games, comic books, and other characters. So, couldn't we make a portal like the Warcraft Portal? I'd start it myself, but I'm bad at tables in Wikipedia format. -- ChessManXI 10:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Sounds fun, but I can't see it happening. There are a lot of videogame characters that have even bigger pages - Mario and Mega Man come to mind. Neither of them have portals. If the material for Sonic validats a portal, than there are possibly hundreds of other articles that will deserve one. SonOfNothing 15:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
This page, I think, should focus on the character of the games, and aspects of Sonic common to all versions. Other information should be moved to the relevant page (info specific on the Archie comic character, for example, should go on that page - some of the information on relationships could do with being moved). The reason for this is that otherwise, we might end up with a structure where each section goes: "In the games... in the Archie comics... in the Fleetway comics... in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog..."
Recently, I've had to keep reverting edits which add something about Sonic's speed coming from his shoes in the Fleetway comics. This is:
So first, will anyone help keep that bit of text out of the article, and second, does anyone agree that this page should focus on the games' character and general features common to all versions of Sonic? -- Nick R Talk 13:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay, so there's been a bit of an edit war going on over Sonic's age. I tried to settle it by changing "15" or "16" to just "teenage," but people apparently aren't interested in the compromise. I realize that Sonic's current age in the games has been recently stated as 15, but this page is not just limited to Sonic's character in recent games, it's about Sonic's character in general. Sonic has been stated as being 16 years old by several other official sources in the past, so would it be so difficult to make a compromise on this? Besides, I don't think that Sonic is a character who is completely incapable of aging. Surely all of the adventures he has been on wouldn't fit into one 365 day period ;)
If someone agrees with me, go ahead and make the edit. If not, I guess I'll survive...
PorpoiseMuffins 18:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I've changed it to a footnote to keep the "controversy" :) out of the introduction. Is the wording correct? -- Nick R Talk 16:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
His official character profile says he is 15. This suggests that Sonic's age has been retconned to be 15 years. See Amy's article for how we treated her age dispute. I suggest adding a similar second paragraph to the lead-in section, yet formatted like the one in Knuckles' article.
I'll add it in a few days if no one objects, and if no one adds it before me. -- DavidHOzAu 02:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC) [[Sonic is 16 because of 2006
OK, moving to (character) was nice, but the pages are still linked to Sonic the Hedgehog! We should, I don't know, use a bot and put all those links right? igordebraga ≠ 17:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Moved the discussion about Super Sonic (and Hyper Sonic) out of abilties to its own section. My reasoning was that Sonic's Super forms enhances his existing abiilties rather than giving him new ones: all of his 'super' abilities he has done to a limited extent while in normal form. (Flying = Jump, Swimming = Holding breath, Invulnerability = Invincibility powerup, etc.) Besides, Super Sonic really deserves its own section. -- DavidHOzAu 03:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
The subsections jump from one thing to the next without adaquete subtitles. I've fixed up the relationships section, but the others seriously need some work. -- DavidHOzAu 05:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I also noticed that the Character section was way too big and made a new section called Abilities. I also placed "Home Planet" before Abilities to make the flow more logical. -- DavidHOzAu 05:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Rather annoying quibble and not one I anticipate much can be done about, but one I felt like voicing anyway: why is there some sudden obsession to replace images with valid captions on most Sonic character pages with atrociously large pictures with no captions? I know this page tends to have that reverted rather quickly (since it's a continuation of one of the lamest edit wars ever), but I've found that some of these other pages tend to go days without any notice whatsoever... what's up with it? -- Shadow Hog 04:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
What pages have done that so far? BTW, in the picture with the old style Sonic and Shadow-style Sonic, shouldn't we replace the Shadow-style Sonic with the Sonic-Riders-style Sonic? Sonic Riders is the most recent game Sonic has been in. -- 71.104.176.253 06:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I know ShAd0w- h0g,...before I used to do most of the reverting on them. Like I said before...I will soon keep an eye for I.P's...when I supect same I.P i am forwarding it to the upper Wiki Users. And get them suspended for some days!
So shouldn't we replace the Shadow-style Sonic with the Sonic-Riders-style Sonic? Sonic Riders is the most recent game Sonic has been in. -- 71.104.187.145 20:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I see. -- 71.104.181.162 01:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
This is article still isn't ready to be a good article because:
I would like to help, but this article is so long, I'm not sure where to place the notes or how to put the trivia into the article. BTW, getting another peer review might help, but I noticed in the last review, nobody replied to the comment, so we need to respond or at least say, "Thanks!" --anon
Why don't we change it to, "Trivia & Notes"...instead of Trivia
The word trivia is still there, but we should have "References and notes" somewhere. Perhaps we should change "Trivia" to "Facts"? Or "Other information" or something. --anon
Will do!
The notes for the external links say it would be better to have links to sites about Sonic as a character, and not the games in general. How do we define this? Sonic-Cult, for instance, is extremely focused on the games (ROM hacking, etc.). The same goes for the Mobygames link. Shouldn't they get removed? BlazeHedgehog 13:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, is Sonic-Cult an actual cult? Cause if it is, we should really remove the link. --anon
Well, not really. There's a very long history to the Sonic Cult, but basically it was started by a really nasty guy (who eventually got arrested for molesting a 14 year old girl) as a place where "mature" Sonic fans could go. Think of it like... the Sonic the Hedgehog version of SomethingAwful.com. Lots of piracy, lots of nudity, lots of pissing everybody else off - basically, uncontrolled chaos, which attracted even more bad people. They also gained a reputation for bullying certain communities with Denial of Service tactics among other less-savory methods of attacks (the exploitation of security holes in forum software, for example). They've also been known to steal content from other websites in the past and re-brand it as their own. Several Cult-ers have even defaced a few Wikipedia articles. Unfortunately, they are also one of the largest and most well-known Sonic fansites because of all this. But all that is moot; There is very little on Sonic as a character at the Sonic-Cult, and as such, the link should probably be removed from this article. - BlazeHedgehog 02:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Wow, then, isn't that an awful site to even put as an external link? I mean, the guy molested someone and there's a bunch of bad people at that site!! --anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.10.103 ( talk • contribs)
That's why I was asking how we define that. I mean, with certain links I can see it - SonicHQ, for example, has a MASSIVE collection of profiles for pretty much every Sonic character ever to exist in any universe. Linking the various Sega regional Sonic sites makes sense, too, because they're Sega. But when you start talking Mobygames, Sonic Stadium, Sonic-Cult, and The Green Hill Zone, things start getting iffy. As for the content of the Cult, didn't the warning label displayed when you first visit the website tip you off to anything? Or the random header images, featuring such lovely imagry as a cross-dressing Tails and a prostitute Amy Rose? Or the "boobpixplz" section? The Sonic Hentai Manga hosting? The list goes on; and the less said about the forums the better. BlazeHedgehog 14:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Sonic Cult's main content seemed to be stuff about the Sonic games, especially about things cut from their development and occasionally other hacking-related things. The images were mostly humorous. I didn't notice those sections you mentioned, but they don't prevent the rest of the site from being interesting as relates to the Sonic games. But, again, nothing directly relevant to Sonic as a character. If those other sites have a section on Sonic the (hedgehog) character, shouldn't the external links on this article be changed to link directly to those sections on the sites instead of to the main page which appears unrelated to the article's subject? – Tifego (t) 00:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I don't want to start any arguments, but this part of the relationship section really needs to be cleaned up!
I'm bolding the really wrong ones:
"Perhaps Sonic's greatest rival can be said to be Shadow the Hedgehog, the "Ultimate Lifeform". They have fought and argued with each other in every Sonic game in which they've met since Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic finds Shadow to be violent, humourless, and arrogant, while Shadow finds Sonic to be foolhardy, arrogant, and irritating. However, near the end of Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow willingly fought the Biolizard while Sonic went off to stop the Chaos Emeralds, showing that they wouldn't hesistate to work together.
Before Shadow's introduction, Metal Sonic was Sonic's toughest rival. During the older days, Eggman tried to beat Sonic at his own game by creating numerous Sonic robots to destroy his nemesis. Though they all tried and failed, Metal Sonic was by far Eggman's greatest creation, having the same abilities as his counterpart. Even with Shadow in the spotlight now, Metal Sonic is still one of Sonic's most powerful and dangerous foes.
Another one of Sonic's toughest rivals is Jet the Hawk from Sonic Riders. Jet mocks him for being inexperienced with Extreme Gear, and doesn't consider Sonic to be the "fastest thing alive", sparking a rivalry between them. Later, after Sonic beats Jet in a race, they became more of friendly, yet still fierce racing rivals. Jet finally admits that Sonic is the fastest, but warns him to be ready the next time they meet."
This is why it's wrong:
I would change this, but the last time I did, someone reverted it. So please discuss it here before we change anything else! BTW, I'm sorry if my complaining is stirring up any heated arguments! :( -- 71.105.4.113 19:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
What visual text? Also, Sonic may not find Shadow to be humourless because Shadow said, "It'll be a date to die for!" Sonic says, "Hey, that's my line!" Meaning Sonic was about to say it and meaning that Shadow must not be all that humourless.
Next, Sonic might not see Metal Sonic as "tough". It might be just a rival and that's it. Cause tough means, "Very difficult." And Sonic may not see it that way.
As for Metal Sonic, something about it was going out of subject and from Sonic's point of view, he may not see Metal Sonic as being that strong or tough.
Also, I deleted it because no one said anything, so I presumed that nobody objected to me removing it. Also, I'm trying to have a neutral point of view of how Sonic would see things. -- 71.105.1.23 21:54, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Never mind. It looks good at the moment, but think I'll edit the wording a little to restore some of the valid ancilliary information that got wiped out in the crossfire. -- DavidHOzAu 09:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Does this part under "Outside the Games" really need to be said? It's a fan-dubbed character that is merely a glitch of Sonic used in only 1 zone. It's not like Ashura is a real character. - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs 67.173.62.22 22:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
This article needs much more than 4 references, especially for a video game character article and the lead needs to be longer. Thanks -- Jaranda wat's sup 19:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I think the trivia by definition isn't exactly encyclopedic. It should be worked into the article! -- 71.105.1.23 22:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that an external reference got lost in the crossfire way back. After much searching, it appears that this edit is responsible.
At time of writing, the reference is still referred to in abilities section, resulting in a dead link. I'll restore it using the new reference system. If anyone knows why it was removed, take it down and post the reason here. -- DavidHOzAu 05:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I also noticed that this other guy has twice deleted the external link to Sonic's character profile at Concept: Mobius, once even immediately after I removed/reverted his edit. Worse, this link looks like a completely pertinent external link that we got some information from. I'll restore the link, but if it goes down again we may have to take more drastic action. Note: he signs his posts with "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs. Does anyone have any experience with this guy? -- DavidHOzAu 00:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Drastic action, eh? Now I'm being threatened because I don't feel that Concept: Mobius is a good site to link to? This is a site anyone can edit, is it not? Concept: Mobius combines all continuities into one massive mixed up universe. It is not helpful at all. Take all the drastic action you want, but I will continue removing that link until it's gone for good. - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs. 67.173.62.22 00:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Look, give me good reason to believe that Concept: Mobius has accurate information regardless of the fact that it combines all the continuities into one and I'll leave it alone. Instead of making threats, you could supply proof. - "Tails Ohki" again. 67.173.62.22 02:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Calm down, man! Firstly, All I wanted to know was why on earth it got deleted after I restored it: I was searching for rationale, or as you say, proof, because your edit summaries didn't give any. I apologise if I sounded like I was threatening you. (At least I got a response! :grin:) Second, because you don't like the information on a page does not qualify for removal rationale, notably from a WP:CITE and WP:NPOV standpoint. (see below.) Third, the linked-to page is Sonic's character profile, not its page about the continuities. However, as you said, if there is accurate information [about Sonic's character] on it, let's keep it up. I believe it contains accurate information, and I am sure that many others here would concur. Besides, even if it was wrong from our own point of view, we'd still have to keep it up, (again, see below.) In summary, it only matters if it is directly related to the subject or not, and anything more is original research.
My rationale for keeping it is this:
Fine... It can stay. I still disagree with it being there, but your points make it sound like it makes sense for it to remain. - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs 67.173.62.22 14:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
{{ SonicFeatures}} because there wasn't anything like it. Posted here because no one seems to visit the series talk page. -- DavidHOzAu 04:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Can you put a Sonic underground or AoSth or satam tv show picture on here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.11.131.241 ( talk • contribs) .
I almost had a heart attack when I saw
the state the article was in today. 95% of edits that have gone on
in the last week only serve to add
fancruft.
I suggest the following:
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EDIT: Removed. The content has been fixed up now due to sub-sectioning labelling, although we should still be careful about adding so much information to a section in one sitting without considering the possibility that the article's structure could break. -- DavidHOzAu 01:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I have been looking at the other video game protagonist pages, and each one of them has the latest version of their respective characters on the top of the page. How does everyone feel about putting this pic ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sonik.jpg) from Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 game) at the top of the page and moving the current double pic of Sonic just a bit lower to the "design" section to highlight the changes in Sonic? -- Helmandsare May 1, 2006 00:49 (UTC)
Proposal : | Should we use the image you can see to right at the top of the article? |
Rationale : | I have been looking at the other video game protagonist pages, and each one of them has the latest version of their respective characters on the top of the page. |
Proposer : | Helmandsare (original proposal) and DavidHOzAu (updated wording) |
Please add * Support or * Oppose followed by a brief explanation, then sign your vote using "--~~~~".
Accepted No objections, survey closed. -- DavidHOzAu 08:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Proposal : | Move the current double picture of Sonic just a bit lower to the "design" section to highlight the changes in Sonic |
Rationale : | According to the discussion above. |
Proposer : | Helmandsare (original proposal) and DavidHOzAu (updated wording) |
Please add * Support or * Oppose followed by a brief explanation, then sign your vote using "--~~~~".
Accepted No objections, survey closed. -- DavidHOzAu 08:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I feel that the voice controversy in that some (or rather, a vast majority) fans want Ryan Drummond back as Sonic should be mentioned in SOME form.
That's fancruft, and might be WP:NPOV#undue weight. -- DavidHOzAu 01:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
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Add in the Japanese text for Sonic The Hedgehog. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
I can't find no fool's name by Sonikku Harinezumi >x<ino 11:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
The Official Name used in Japanese is "Sonikku za Hejjihoggu", in relation to the name used with the rest of the world. - Judacris 08:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I believe some Japanese people or fans refer to him as Sonikku Harinezumi (like for example, Rad Red is a nickname for Knuckles, or Shad is a nickname for Shadow in the English fanbase) though Sega officially refers to him as Sonikku za Hejjihoggu.
Yes, i do know that and most people do know that. If you play Sonic Adventure, and set the Voice/Language to Japanese, when a characters calls out's SOnic's name, in the subtitle it will be spelled out "Soniku"
But this is Wiki, not many people know about Shad or Rad Red, because we do not know most of the fans speak
I've just edited a load of links and references to "Sonic the Retard", "Stupid Sonic", "Sonic the Fast Person" and "Sonic Advent". Is this the first time such edits have been made necessary on this page? -- L T Dangerous 16:53, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
More vandals, a user of 68.195.8.254 changed the entire article to "All wrong shadow can totaly destroy sonic" recently. Is there any way to block such direspect of Wikipedia? chess.and.cookies@gmail.com 04:14, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
In other news, I did notice somebody's up and trying to start up the image war again. *grumble* -- Shadow Hog 05:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Baka ni gaijo! [This was where Darth Katana X mistakenly accused Yeltensic42 of vandalism; this note is here so that readers won't be completely confused by the following discussion]
Please don't make a mountain out of a molehill. There was a little misunderstanding, that's all. See my post on User talk:Darth Katana X. To make it clear to anyone reading this who didn't see what he was talking about, I did not commit any vandalism. Yeltensic42.618 14:55, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
LOL, Yeltensic42.618 you also did an edit, on Sonic the Hedgehog characters who have died, knowly stating Shadow may have fallen to his death. Which it isn't true
>x<ino 00:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Well I haven't played the Shadow game yet, so I was under the impression that whether or not he died was uncertain, but apparently it gets cleared up then. Well, thanks for correcting it, but no thanks for calling me a fool in your edit summary, that was pretty unneccesary, but why did you mention it here on this Vandalism thread? It wasn't vandalism. You seem to be following Darth's lead, why?
Yeltensic42.618
17:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
LOL, sorry for calling you fool i know it wasn't neccessary, but i like that word, thanks to MR T:P
Darth's Lead:O, no i am not.. i hate following evil way,... it's like Dark Vadal:P
>x<ino 21:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Darth Katana X is evil? How is that? I think he just misunderstood me and overreacted. Yeltensic42.618 22:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
like i said before..."EVIL!"
yea, they may be some misunderstanding...or They could be an misundertstanding
>x<ino
20:50, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
by the way...
can some one tell me why this is here? has seen in the manual...we dont need that
When Mario won and Sonic lost, what did AMY ROSE do? --User:ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
Are you talking about the Sonic vs Mario end? i don't know what Amy the hoe did to Sonic...you know what she did:P >x<ino 08:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, after Sega left the console Market, AMY ROSE felt sad that Sonic lost. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com
Sonic dose,nt lose he stupidly(Funny,and vulgarly) wins as Super Sonic in the the lost ending haven,t you seen it try typing in on Yahoo or Google Sonic Vs Mario--??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.192.201.154 ( talk • contribs) .
You people are off-topic!! This is a flash you are talking about!! - 70.241.64.243 08:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC) Evil Sonic
The edit wars seem sufficiently over and the article seems to be very thourough, so, maybe it's time to nomintate it for featured article status. Does anyone else agree or am I totally mistaken? -- ChessAndCookies 01:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'd agree. It it Time. -- Judacris 09:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
what do you mean nomintate? you mean, it will be nominated for better improvements? like from before to after!?:P >x<ino 14:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
It's almost ready. Just move all the crap on the non-canon Sonic's love life to a different article. I also think we should focus on Sonic X a little more. After all, that's a lot closer to the "real" Sonic universe than the comics. -- Darth Katana X
I like the current condition of the page (without the vandalism, of course). The images I find we needed are all there. -- Judacris 06:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I actually think the Archie part should stay. It's verifiable and doesn't need to be erased. And Sonic X isn't very real, to tell the truth (especially since characters like Chris will not be in the games). And, if you haven't noticed, Sonic is less decisive and hardly talks, which is very different from the game. --anon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2005 71.105.0.87 ( talk • contribs) 00:37, 12 December.
What's the deal with all the archaic Sonic the Hedgehog pictures? This guide needs more pictures from Heroes, yo! -- Darth Katana X
Yeah, that makes sense. But I think we could replace just a couple of those old illustrations with new renders. -- Darth Katana X
I'm trying to add as much relevant pictures to this page as possible without swamping the text. -- Steerpike 22:18, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
The article says that the games take place on the South Island in the Pacific (I'll assume that means New Zealand) and that Sonic was born on Christmas Island (presumably Australia), but what is the source for that? I haven't seen that anywhere else, eg in canonical sources (I hope this doesn't sound like I'm accusing others of making things up). Yeltensic42.618 07:29, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
In the anime, which is generally considered canon, Sonic lives on South Island, but probably not the same South Island, seeing as it's set on Planet Freedom. Gives you something to think about. -- Darth Katana X
Do you mean seeing the Earth from orbit? The only recent game I've played is Heroes (in fact, that was the first Sonic game I ever played...I was always a Nintendo-ite in the rivalry era, and by age missed the original craze anyway). As for the Genesis manuals, I think Mobius was an invention of the Western comics, and was mentioned games like Mean Bean Machine that were intended to promote the comics, but not in the main games. Was there also a source (non-canon) that had Eggman coming to Mobius from Earth? Yeltensic42.618 01:07, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't see why we have to believe that Sonic is from Earth. I understand that Prof. Gerald knows of the chaos emeralds, but this could be that Gerald had a portal to Sonic's planet (possibly Mobius). This could explain the reason why Robotnik is the only human in the old sonic series that he used Gerald's portal (sorry for the fanfic), but please don't write this on the main page. I'm sorry if I have have offended anyone who has researched this more than me, I have also added discussion on E-series. (I don't have a user name). But please add more theories underneath this.
Besides perhaps a few fanfics, I'd say no. --
Darth Katana X
Response to comment involving Prof. Gerald's portal: The Sonic X TV show is not part of the SegaSonic canon and has nothing to do with the games. The facts that comes directly from Sega are the true facts and Sonic being from Earth is proven by the game manuals begining with the first game.
How would we know that South Island is still Sonic's home and that the games made after Sonic 1 take place there if they take place in other locations like Westside Island (Sonic 2) and Angel Island (Sonic 3 & Knuckles)? He seems to have been moving around all over the place after the first game, and not just the Pacific Ocean.
Is the "Theme Songs" section really necessary? I Mean, it's not as if the song's there for download. -- Judacris 08:24, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Yea that is i am saying, all information enterd in Sonic game's and related, the similar information should be inputted
>x<ino 14:59, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
To avoid flooding this page with discussion of Sonic's love life, at Darth Katana X's suggestion I have set up User talk:Yeltensic42/Sonic Love Life. Please discuss it there, not here. Yeltensic42.618 22:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
I've added this article to the list of good articles, hoping to get this article more attention so it will hopefully eventually become a featured article. Does any agree/disagree? chess.and.cookies@gmail.com 05:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
I've started the References section using the source for the "Christmas Island" and "South Island" notes. Incidentally, the website (created by The GHZ member, big smile) should prove a valuable source for, well, sourcing all this stuff we need sourced before this can become a FA, or even a GA. -- Shadow Hog 17:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
I check the "Books" section, for this article
I am sorry to say this, but it is
The Comic Books was alright,
Also for the novels It's also like encouraging people to buy/search and buy the book
Anyway, we will sort that sh@t out later:P
Because most visitors that come in, will apperciate the article, but will still wonder how many games has been produced for Sonic
So...i am say,
>x<ino 21:41, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
No point, i found the link [ [1]] >x<ino 21:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I removed the section of the intro referring to a Sonic website and his various presence online. It was pretty out-of-place in the intro, especially with s seemingly random list of characters.
I mention this here onle because the concept of Sonic's online presence has the potential for a proper section within the article - as far as I've seen, quite a bit could be said about it if one were to do proper research.
I'm certainly not going to, but it'd be interesting to see what someone could come up with.
That aside, the removed section just didn't fit into the article by itself, especially in the intro.
SonOfNothing
03:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
You mean Megaman X?
>x<ino 01:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I noticed, as I did an edit, that there's something that says the Sonic Page is 30kb. Which, as the Wiki Page regarding Article size says that a page over 32kb may lead to division. I dunno, I'm just concerned. - Judacris 03:00, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Not really, but your computer will take longer to save the page on the article. So you should separate some stuff to different pages. --anon
Well, actually, you should, cause I wouldn't like to wait a long time or have a "page cannot be displayed...". --anon
We seem to have a lot of information of Sonic, the sonic games, comic books, and other characters. So, couldn't we make a portal like the Warcraft Portal? I'd start it myself, but I'm bad at tables in Wikipedia format. -- ChessManXI 10:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Sounds fun, but I can't see it happening. There are a lot of videogame characters that have even bigger pages - Mario and Mega Man come to mind. Neither of them have portals. If the material for Sonic validats a portal, than there are possibly hundreds of other articles that will deserve one. SonOfNothing 15:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
This page, I think, should focus on the character of the games, and aspects of Sonic common to all versions. Other information should be moved to the relevant page (info specific on the Archie comic character, for example, should go on that page - some of the information on relationships could do with being moved). The reason for this is that otherwise, we might end up with a structure where each section goes: "In the games... in the Archie comics... in the Fleetway comics... in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog..."
Recently, I've had to keep reverting edits which add something about Sonic's speed coming from his shoes in the Fleetway comics. This is:
So first, will anyone help keep that bit of text out of the article, and second, does anyone agree that this page should focus on the games' character and general features common to all versions of Sonic? -- Nick R Talk 13:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay, so there's been a bit of an edit war going on over Sonic's age. I tried to settle it by changing "15" or "16" to just "teenage," but people apparently aren't interested in the compromise. I realize that Sonic's current age in the games has been recently stated as 15, but this page is not just limited to Sonic's character in recent games, it's about Sonic's character in general. Sonic has been stated as being 16 years old by several other official sources in the past, so would it be so difficult to make a compromise on this? Besides, I don't think that Sonic is a character who is completely incapable of aging. Surely all of the adventures he has been on wouldn't fit into one 365 day period ;)
If someone agrees with me, go ahead and make the edit. If not, I guess I'll survive...
PorpoiseMuffins 18:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I've changed it to a footnote to keep the "controversy" :) out of the introduction. Is the wording correct? -- Nick R Talk 16:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
His official character profile says he is 15. This suggests that Sonic's age has been retconned to be 15 years. See Amy's article for how we treated her age dispute. I suggest adding a similar second paragraph to the lead-in section, yet formatted like the one in Knuckles' article.
I'll add it in a few days if no one objects, and if no one adds it before me. -- DavidHOzAu 02:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC) [[Sonic is 16 because of 2006
OK, moving to (character) was nice, but the pages are still linked to Sonic the Hedgehog! We should, I don't know, use a bot and put all those links right? igordebraga ≠ 17:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Moved the discussion about Super Sonic (and Hyper Sonic) out of abilties to its own section. My reasoning was that Sonic's Super forms enhances his existing abiilties rather than giving him new ones: all of his 'super' abilities he has done to a limited extent while in normal form. (Flying = Jump, Swimming = Holding breath, Invulnerability = Invincibility powerup, etc.) Besides, Super Sonic really deserves its own section. -- DavidHOzAu 03:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
The subsections jump from one thing to the next without adaquete subtitles. I've fixed up the relationships section, but the others seriously need some work. -- DavidHOzAu 05:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I also noticed that the Character section was way too big and made a new section called Abilities. I also placed "Home Planet" before Abilities to make the flow more logical. -- DavidHOzAu 05:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Rather annoying quibble and not one I anticipate much can be done about, but one I felt like voicing anyway: why is there some sudden obsession to replace images with valid captions on most Sonic character pages with atrociously large pictures with no captions? I know this page tends to have that reverted rather quickly (since it's a continuation of one of the lamest edit wars ever), but I've found that some of these other pages tend to go days without any notice whatsoever... what's up with it? -- Shadow Hog 04:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
What pages have done that so far? BTW, in the picture with the old style Sonic and Shadow-style Sonic, shouldn't we replace the Shadow-style Sonic with the Sonic-Riders-style Sonic? Sonic Riders is the most recent game Sonic has been in. -- 71.104.176.253 06:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I know ShAd0w- h0g,...before I used to do most of the reverting on them. Like I said before...I will soon keep an eye for I.P's...when I supect same I.P i am forwarding it to the upper Wiki Users. And get them suspended for some days!
So shouldn't we replace the Shadow-style Sonic with the Sonic-Riders-style Sonic? Sonic Riders is the most recent game Sonic has been in. -- 71.104.187.145 20:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I see. -- 71.104.181.162 01:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
This is article still isn't ready to be a good article because:
I would like to help, but this article is so long, I'm not sure where to place the notes or how to put the trivia into the article. BTW, getting another peer review might help, but I noticed in the last review, nobody replied to the comment, so we need to respond or at least say, "Thanks!" --anon
Why don't we change it to, "Trivia & Notes"...instead of Trivia
The word trivia is still there, but we should have "References and notes" somewhere. Perhaps we should change "Trivia" to "Facts"? Or "Other information" or something. --anon
Will do!
The notes for the external links say it would be better to have links to sites about Sonic as a character, and not the games in general. How do we define this? Sonic-Cult, for instance, is extremely focused on the games (ROM hacking, etc.). The same goes for the Mobygames link. Shouldn't they get removed? BlazeHedgehog 13:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, is Sonic-Cult an actual cult? Cause if it is, we should really remove the link. --anon
Well, not really. There's a very long history to the Sonic Cult, but basically it was started by a really nasty guy (who eventually got arrested for molesting a 14 year old girl) as a place where "mature" Sonic fans could go. Think of it like... the Sonic the Hedgehog version of SomethingAwful.com. Lots of piracy, lots of nudity, lots of pissing everybody else off - basically, uncontrolled chaos, which attracted even more bad people. They also gained a reputation for bullying certain communities with Denial of Service tactics among other less-savory methods of attacks (the exploitation of security holes in forum software, for example). They've also been known to steal content from other websites in the past and re-brand it as their own. Several Cult-ers have even defaced a few Wikipedia articles. Unfortunately, they are also one of the largest and most well-known Sonic fansites because of all this. But all that is moot; There is very little on Sonic as a character at the Sonic-Cult, and as such, the link should probably be removed from this article. - BlazeHedgehog 02:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Wow, then, isn't that an awful site to even put as an external link? I mean, the guy molested someone and there's a bunch of bad people at that site!! --anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.10.103 ( talk • contribs)
That's why I was asking how we define that. I mean, with certain links I can see it - SonicHQ, for example, has a MASSIVE collection of profiles for pretty much every Sonic character ever to exist in any universe. Linking the various Sega regional Sonic sites makes sense, too, because they're Sega. But when you start talking Mobygames, Sonic Stadium, Sonic-Cult, and The Green Hill Zone, things start getting iffy. As for the content of the Cult, didn't the warning label displayed when you first visit the website tip you off to anything? Or the random header images, featuring such lovely imagry as a cross-dressing Tails and a prostitute Amy Rose? Or the "boobpixplz" section? The Sonic Hentai Manga hosting? The list goes on; and the less said about the forums the better. BlazeHedgehog 14:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Sonic Cult's main content seemed to be stuff about the Sonic games, especially about things cut from their development and occasionally other hacking-related things. The images were mostly humorous. I didn't notice those sections you mentioned, but they don't prevent the rest of the site from being interesting as relates to the Sonic games. But, again, nothing directly relevant to Sonic as a character. If those other sites have a section on Sonic the (hedgehog) character, shouldn't the external links on this article be changed to link directly to those sections on the sites instead of to the main page which appears unrelated to the article's subject? – Tifego (t) 00:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I don't want to start any arguments, but this part of the relationship section really needs to be cleaned up!
I'm bolding the really wrong ones:
"Perhaps Sonic's greatest rival can be said to be Shadow the Hedgehog, the "Ultimate Lifeform". They have fought and argued with each other in every Sonic game in which they've met since Sonic Adventure 2. Sonic finds Shadow to be violent, humourless, and arrogant, while Shadow finds Sonic to be foolhardy, arrogant, and irritating. However, near the end of Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow willingly fought the Biolizard while Sonic went off to stop the Chaos Emeralds, showing that they wouldn't hesistate to work together.
Before Shadow's introduction, Metal Sonic was Sonic's toughest rival. During the older days, Eggman tried to beat Sonic at his own game by creating numerous Sonic robots to destroy his nemesis. Though they all tried and failed, Metal Sonic was by far Eggman's greatest creation, having the same abilities as his counterpart. Even with Shadow in the spotlight now, Metal Sonic is still one of Sonic's most powerful and dangerous foes.
Another one of Sonic's toughest rivals is Jet the Hawk from Sonic Riders. Jet mocks him for being inexperienced with Extreme Gear, and doesn't consider Sonic to be the "fastest thing alive", sparking a rivalry between them. Later, after Sonic beats Jet in a race, they became more of friendly, yet still fierce racing rivals. Jet finally admits that Sonic is the fastest, but warns him to be ready the next time they meet."
This is why it's wrong:
I would change this, but the last time I did, someone reverted it. So please discuss it here before we change anything else! BTW, I'm sorry if my complaining is stirring up any heated arguments! :( -- 71.105.4.113 19:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
What visual text? Also, Sonic may not find Shadow to be humourless because Shadow said, "It'll be a date to die for!" Sonic says, "Hey, that's my line!" Meaning Sonic was about to say it and meaning that Shadow must not be all that humourless.
Next, Sonic might not see Metal Sonic as "tough". It might be just a rival and that's it. Cause tough means, "Very difficult." And Sonic may not see it that way.
As for Metal Sonic, something about it was going out of subject and from Sonic's point of view, he may not see Metal Sonic as being that strong or tough.
Also, I deleted it because no one said anything, so I presumed that nobody objected to me removing it. Also, I'm trying to have a neutral point of view of how Sonic would see things. -- 71.105.1.23 21:54, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Never mind. It looks good at the moment, but think I'll edit the wording a little to restore some of the valid ancilliary information that got wiped out in the crossfire. -- DavidHOzAu 09:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Does this part under "Outside the Games" really need to be said? It's a fan-dubbed character that is merely a glitch of Sonic used in only 1 zone. It's not like Ashura is a real character. - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs 67.173.62.22 22:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
This article needs much more than 4 references, especially for a video game character article and the lead needs to be longer. Thanks -- Jaranda wat's sup 19:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I think the trivia by definition isn't exactly encyclopedic. It should be worked into the article! -- 71.105.1.23 22:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that an external reference got lost in the crossfire way back. After much searching, it appears that this edit is responsible.
At time of writing, the reference is still referred to in abilities section, resulting in a dead link. I'll restore it using the new reference system. If anyone knows why it was removed, take it down and post the reason here. -- DavidHOzAu 05:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I also noticed that this other guy has twice deleted the external link to Sonic's character profile at Concept: Mobius, once even immediately after I removed/reverted his edit. Worse, this link looks like a completely pertinent external link that we got some information from. I'll restore the link, but if it goes down again we may have to take more drastic action. Note: he signs his posts with "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs. Does anyone have any experience with this guy? -- DavidHOzAu 00:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Drastic action, eh? Now I'm being threatened because I don't feel that Concept: Mobius is a good site to link to? This is a site anyone can edit, is it not? Concept: Mobius combines all continuities into one massive mixed up universe. It is not helpful at all. Take all the drastic action you want, but I will continue removing that link until it's gone for good. - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs. 67.173.62.22 00:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Look, give me good reason to believe that Concept: Mobius has accurate information regardless of the fact that it combines all the continuities into one and I'll leave it alone. Instead of making threats, you could supply proof. - "Tails Ohki" again. 67.173.62.22 02:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Calm down, man! Firstly, All I wanted to know was why on earth it got deleted after I restored it: I was searching for rationale, or as you say, proof, because your edit summaries didn't give any. I apologise if I sounded like I was threatening you. (At least I got a response! :grin:) Second, because you don't like the information on a page does not qualify for removal rationale, notably from a WP:CITE and WP:NPOV standpoint. (see below.) Third, the linked-to page is Sonic's character profile, not its page about the continuities. However, as you said, if there is accurate information [about Sonic's character] on it, let's keep it up. I believe it contains accurate information, and I am sure that many others here would concur. Besides, even if it was wrong from our own point of view, we'd still have to keep it up, (again, see below.) In summary, it only matters if it is directly related to the subject or not, and anything more is original research.
My rationale for keeping it is this:
Fine... It can stay. I still disagree with it being there, but your points make it sound like it makes sense for it to remain. - "Tails Ohki" from GameFAQs 67.173.62.22 14:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
{{ SonicFeatures}} because there wasn't anything like it. Posted here because no one seems to visit the series talk page. -- DavidHOzAu 04:49, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Can you put a Sonic underground or AoSth or satam tv show picture on here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.11.131.241 ( talk • contribs) .
I almost had a heart attack when I saw
the state the article was in today. 95% of edits that have gone on
in the last week only serve to add
fancruft.
I suggest the following:
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EDIT: Removed. The content has been fixed up now due to sub-sectioning labelling, although we should still be careful about adding so much information to a section in one sitting without considering the possibility that the article's structure could break. -- DavidHOzAu 01:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I have been looking at the other video game protagonist pages, and each one of them has the latest version of their respective characters on the top of the page. How does everyone feel about putting this pic ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sonik.jpg) from Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 game) at the top of the page and moving the current double pic of Sonic just a bit lower to the "design" section to highlight the changes in Sonic? -- Helmandsare May 1, 2006 00:49 (UTC)
Proposal : | Should we use the image you can see to right at the top of the article? |
Rationale : | I have been looking at the other video game protagonist pages, and each one of them has the latest version of their respective characters on the top of the page. |
Proposer : | Helmandsare (original proposal) and DavidHOzAu (updated wording) |
Please add * Support or * Oppose followed by a brief explanation, then sign your vote using "--~~~~".
Accepted No objections, survey closed. -- DavidHOzAu 08:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Proposal : | Move the current double picture of Sonic just a bit lower to the "design" section to highlight the changes in Sonic |
Rationale : | According to the discussion above. |
Proposer : | Helmandsare (original proposal) and DavidHOzAu (updated wording) |
Please add * Support or * Oppose followed by a brief explanation, then sign your vote using "--~~~~".
Accepted No objections, survey closed. -- DavidHOzAu 08:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I feel that the voice controversy in that some (or rather, a vast majority) fans want Ryan Drummond back as Sonic should be mentioned in SOME form.
That's fancruft, and might be WP:NPOV#undue weight. -- DavidHOzAu 01:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)