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This article is totally imbalanced - it only provides criticism and says little that is neutral or positive about the party. -- SandyDancer 12:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Why have major pieces of content been removed from this article?
* The section on similarity to the scottish socialist party has been removed, why? now checked sources - SSP has now changed their page.
I entirely agree that there is leftie in-fighting going on when the page is radically changed to take out all reference to the ongoing industrial disputes and the investigation into fraud.
Sandydancer - you had previously said that the criticism was "fairly written and sourced" what has changed in the last week? Ms medusa 00:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I can understand where people are coming from when they talk about 'leftie in fighting' - but to put the dispute in context, not only has the NUJ - an established and credible TU - came out in support of the workers against Sheridan and Byrne, but the Scottish organiser of the NUJ actually testified for Sheridan in his libel case. So the NUJ can hardly be considered a sectarian or factional organisation.
Can I suggest that this article is referred for comments as per * Wikipedia:Requests for comment Ms medusa 23:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
commies in the scottish parliament! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.70.199.52 ( talk • contribs) 17:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
well if youre so fond of pluralism surely 'commies' in the scottish parliament can only be a good thing? =D
I would like to explain my removal of the section on polling results. Since WP is an encyclopaedia, we need to bear in mind that we cannot report every single poll that takes place, or even just the major ones. These are utterly insignificant facts. Maybe you could get away with it on Wikinews, but material that may be superseded within weeks really should be avoided. Even to include every piece of political polling in Scotland since the formation of Solidarity (which is what a serious NPOV treatment would require). While I thank the anon user for their reasoning, "Re-inserted section on plolling since highlights level of political support for Solidarity in Scottish society in absence of formal electoral evidence", I question whether WP should be pronouncing judgement on Solidarity's political support at all. It's one thing (and not even necessarily a good thing) to report that, say, the SSP have expressed doubts about viability, while Solidarity assert the opposite; quite another to go around picking up polls and hinting at conclusions. And frankly, there's no way we're going to be able present the evidence in an unbiased way - opinion polling is notoriously subjective, and it's not worth going to the effort of beating out a well-rounded section from a few bits of data. Therefore, I ask that the section not be reinstated. -- Nema Fakei 00:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Since the distinctive Scottish use of this term left me puzzled, I've cobbled together this article. Please help me make it better. -- Orange Mike 01:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC) (in Milwaukee, home of America's only successful social democrats)
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each referencing the same subject, seems a bit odd that all of them ceased working —Preceding
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I suggest that the Socialist Party Scotland page is merged into Solidarity. Socialist Party Scotland organises exclusively within Solidarity and is one of its most significant components—given that the Solidarity page is so short, and that the SPS page relies entirely on primary sources, I reckon it would make more sense to merge the page into a "Platforms" section in the Solidarity article. - Zcbeaton ( talk) 17:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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This article is totally imbalanced - it only provides criticism and says little that is neutral or positive about the party. -- SandyDancer 12:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Why have major pieces of content been removed from this article?
* The section on similarity to the scottish socialist party has been removed, why? now checked sources - SSP has now changed their page.
I entirely agree that there is leftie in-fighting going on when the page is radically changed to take out all reference to the ongoing industrial disputes and the investigation into fraud.
Sandydancer - you had previously said that the criticism was "fairly written and sourced" what has changed in the last week? Ms medusa 00:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I can understand where people are coming from when they talk about 'leftie in fighting' - but to put the dispute in context, not only has the NUJ - an established and credible TU - came out in support of the workers against Sheridan and Byrne, but the Scottish organiser of the NUJ actually testified for Sheridan in his libel case. So the NUJ can hardly be considered a sectarian or factional organisation.
Can I suggest that this article is referred for comments as per * Wikipedia:Requests for comment Ms medusa 23:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
commies in the scottish parliament! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.70.199.52 ( talk • contribs) 17:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
well if youre so fond of pluralism surely 'commies' in the scottish parliament can only be a good thing? =D
I would like to explain my removal of the section on polling results. Since WP is an encyclopaedia, we need to bear in mind that we cannot report every single poll that takes place, or even just the major ones. These are utterly insignificant facts. Maybe you could get away with it on Wikinews, but material that may be superseded within weeks really should be avoided. Even to include every piece of political polling in Scotland since the formation of Solidarity (which is what a serious NPOV treatment would require). While I thank the anon user for their reasoning, "Re-inserted section on plolling since highlights level of political support for Solidarity in Scottish society in absence of formal electoral evidence", I question whether WP should be pronouncing judgement on Solidarity's political support at all. It's one thing (and not even necessarily a good thing) to report that, say, the SSP have expressed doubts about viability, while Solidarity assert the opposite; quite another to go around picking up polls and hinting at conclusions. And frankly, there's no way we're going to be able present the evidence in an unbiased way - opinion polling is notoriously subjective, and it's not worth going to the effort of beating out a well-rounded section from a few bits of data. Therefore, I ask that the section not be reinstated. -- Nema Fakei 00:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Since the distinctive Scottish use of this term left me puzzled, I've cobbled together this article. Please help me make it better. -- Orange Mike 01:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC) (in Milwaukee, home of America's only successful social democrats)
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each referencing the same subject, seems a bit odd that all of them ceased working —Preceding
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I suggest that the Socialist Party Scotland page is merged into Solidarity. Socialist Party Scotland organises exclusively within Solidarity and is one of its most significant components—given that the Solidarity page is so short, and that the SPS page relies entirely on primary sources, I reckon it would make more sense to merge the page into a "Platforms" section in the Solidarity article. - Zcbeaton ( talk) 17:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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