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Her claims are totally false

She was never raped. This is a total lie made up for publicity purposes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.204.246 ( talk) 05:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC) reply

It appears the claim of "rape" is not being made any longer, but rather, "Sexual assault". This may be a big misleading - I suggest the filings in her lawsuit against UC Berkeley, which describe the alleged "sexual assault" should be included in the article. This person is publicly known because of a claim of "sexual assault" and so understanding precisely what is being characterized as "sexual assault" is crucial. I personally would say "sexual assault" is a big overly dramatic as a term to describe what happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1CD0:1710:5515:6D29:177F:2861 ( talk) 00:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC) reply

I do not see anyone objecting to linking to Karasek's lawsuit against the University of California. I believe this is really very important, as many readers will see calling her a victim of "sexual assault" is misleading - the actual facts of what happened are quite important here.

In fact, that brings up a big issue with both Karasek and some other women known for this type of advocacy - how severe must an incident be to be called "sexual assault" ? I mean, if you have some legal determination of fault - a criminal conviction - then you can use that language - but in a case where one person says they were sexually assaulted, with no details, this can be very misleading.

I also am not sure we can say the University of California "mishandled" her complaint - I think we can say Karasek says that, but I am not sure there is any other source for this claim. If I recall correctly her lawsuit never went anywhere and therefore no such determination was made.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Her claims are totally false

She was never raped. This is a total lie made up for publicity purposes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.204.246 ( talk) 05:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC) reply

It appears the claim of "rape" is not being made any longer, but rather, "Sexual assault". This may be a big misleading - I suggest the filings in her lawsuit against UC Berkeley, which describe the alleged "sexual assault" should be included in the article. This person is publicly known because of a claim of "sexual assault" and so understanding precisely what is being characterized as "sexual assault" is crucial. I personally would say "sexual assault" is a big overly dramatic as a term to describe what happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1CD0:1710:5515:6D29:177F:2861 ( talk) 00:19, 11 March 2021 (UTC) reply

I do not see anyone objecting to linking to Karasek's lawsuit against the University of California. I believe this is really very important, as many readers will see calling her a victim of "sexual assault" is misleading - the actual facts of what happened are quite important here.

In fact, that brings up a big issue with both Karasek and some other women known for this type of advocacy - how severe must an incident be to be called "sexual assault" ? I mean, if you have some legal determination of fault - a criminal conviction - then you can use that language - but in a case where one person says they were sexually assaulted, with no details, this can be very misleading.

I also am not sure we can say the University of California "mishandled" her complaint - I think we can say Karasek says that, but I am not sure there is any other source for this claim. If I recall correctly her lawsuit never went anywhere and therefore no such determination was made.


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