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Puppet

The article says that BNR was a "puppet state", but that SSRB "was considered by Bolsheviks to be a buffer republic".

So this means that neither of them really became full-fledged states (BSSR was a rather different entity) and both were political tools - one for Germany and one for the Bolshevik Moscow.

Except that "puppet state" sounds more negative. -- Amir E. Aharoni 06:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC) reply

The terms are different and, contrary to what you may think, are not political slurs, but reflect the state of the affairs. "Buffer state" is actually the term used by bolsheviks themselves, referring to its purpose: a temporary buffer between Russia and the enemies. This arrangement was only temporarry with the inention to include it into Russia. Another suc example is Far Eastern Republic and some others. Germans did not set a "buffer", they intended to create Mitteleuropa totally subordinated to Germany, which was the primary purpose, and this arrangement is traditionally called puppet state. Now, you may say that the "buffer states": were subordinated to Russia. Yes they were, but the were pieces of former Imperial Russia itself and were going to be re-incorporated back after the smoke and dust of wars settles, while Germany occupied foreign lands. `' Míkka 15:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC) reply

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Is it correct to use the russian name of this belarusan state? Perhaps it would be more correct to write in the title of the article «Socialist Soviet Republic of Belarus»? Noobcrafting ( talk) 20:57, 24 July 2023 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Puppet

The article says that BNR was a "puppet state", but that SSRB "was considered by Bolsheviks to be a buffer republic".

So this means that neither of them really became full-fledged states (BSSR was a rather different entity) and both were political tools - one for Germany and one for the Bolshevik Moscow.

Except that "puppet state" sounds more negative. -- Amir E. Aharoni 06:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC) reply

The terms are different and, contrary to what you may think, are not political slurs, but reflect the state of the affairs. "Buffer state" is actually the term used by bolsheviks themselves, referring to its purpose: a temporary buffer between Russia and the enemies. This arrangement was only temporarry with the inention to include it into Russia. Another suc example is Far Eastern Republic and some others. Germans did not set a "buffer", they intended to create Mitteleuropa totally subordinated to Germany, which was the primary purpose, and this arrangement is traditionally called puppet state. Now, you may say that the "buffer states": were subordinated to Russia. Yes they were, but the were pieces of former Imperial Russia itself and were going to be re-incorporated back after the smoke and dust of wars settles, while Germany occupied foreign lands. `' Míkka 15:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC) reply

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 19:37, 19 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Title of the article

Is it correct to use the russian name of this belarusan state? Perhaps it would be more correct to write in the title of the article «Socialist Soviet Republic of Belarus»? Noobcrafting ( talk) 20:57, 24 July 2023 (UTC) reply


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