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The Dúnadan placed a POV tag to this article. I dont think it applies. The rather scant reasoning provided at the summary edit mentioned
"got dilluted", well, they did. There is no PSPV as such within the structures or ranks in the PSPV-PSOE.
something about "moniker". I have changed this (not very sure what that has to do with POV anyway)
"small nationalist". Well, they were small and they were nationalist. Again, I can't see the problem with it in POV terms, unless someone considers Reality itself being POV...
All in all, if there is any urge to tag this one, I guess the one which applies is "unreferenced".
Hi Mountolive, it is simply the language used and the choice of words in
value judgments. For example: "they merged to the more relevant" (how do you define relevancy? isn't perhaps "larger" a more neutral choice of words?); "they got diluted" (I don't think diluted
[1], is the appropriate word given its negative connotation, perhaps a false friend? and it is also a value judgment. Perhaps "integrated into the larger PSOE"?
Perhaps we should call this article PSPV-PSOE, if only to make it more "relevant"?
And yes, I agree, we need several {{cn}} tags for the many unreferenced claims.
Ok, but if it is a mere choice of language, are you sure that the best solution is tagging the article instead of improving whatever wording you find troublesome? I am pretty much ok with the suggested wording above, I just dont get your sudden coyness attack. Dont forget there is a course of action called editting prior to tagging...or maybe there is some guideline stating the contrary? I hope not...
Mountolivegroup using a loop of another pop group 23:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)reply
I don't mind changing the words, and de-tagging the article, and in light of our mutual consensus, I will. I just find your "sudden coyness attack" comment absolutely inappropriate, to say the least. --
theDúnadan 23:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)reply
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The Dúnadan placed a POV tag to this article. I dont think it applies. The rather scant reasoning provided at the summary edit mentioned
"got dilluted", well, they did. There is no PSPV as such within the structures or ranks in the PSPV-PSOE.
something about "moniker". I have changed this (not very sure what that has to do with POV anyway)
"small nationalist". Well, they were small and they were nationalist. Again, I can't see the problem with it in POV terms, unless someone considers Reality itself being POV...
All in all, if there is any urge to tag this one, I guess the one which applies is "unreferenced".
Hi Mountolive, it is simply the language used and the choice of words in
value judgments. For example: "they merged to the more relevant" (how do you define relevancy? isn't perhaps "larger" a more neutral choice of words?); "they got diluted" (I don't think diluted
[1], is the appropriate word given its negative connotation, perhaps a false friend? and it is also a value judgment. Perhaps "integrated into the larger PSOE"?
Perhaps we should call this article PSPV-PSOE, if only to make it more "relevant"?
And yes, I agree, we need several {{cn}} tags for the many unreferenced claims.
Ok, but if it is a mere choice of language, are you sure that the best solution is tagging the article instead of improving whatever wording you find troublesome? I am pretty much ok with the suggested wording above, I just dont get your sudden coyness attack. Dont forget there is a course of action called editting prior to tagging...or maybe there is some guideline stating the contrary? I hope not...
Mountolivegroup using a loop of another pop group 23:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)reply
I don't mind changing the words, and de-tagging the article, and in light of our mutual consensus, I will. I just find your "sudden coyness attack" comment absolutely inappropriate, to say the least. --
theDúnadan 23:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)reply