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On April 5, former SPFL chair, Brian Moore, was expelled from the Socialist Party. Jim Sanders was elected state chair. Chegitz ( talk) 17:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
This is where it gets tricky, does it not? The Universal Truce of Factional Bellybouncing has deemed that one Socialist Party terminated on December 31, 1972 at its New York Convention there when it transformed its name and mission to Social Democrats USA. This organization has been called, for convenience and clarity, by its original name of "Socialist Party of America" even though it used all sorts of names in a more or less official capacity throughout its 72 year life... This group was then succeeded by a new organization established part of the way in to 1973, called for convenience and clarity by its current name, Socialist Party, USA.
Thus is the delicate question of "legitimacy" sidestepped, the SPUSA faction being the smallest of the three siblings of 1973...
But here, with a state affiliate, party history is considered one complete run — which is not technically accurate and which might cause an outburst of Factional Bellybouncing.
I think, at a minimum, this article should be divided internally into sections... OLD SPA here and NEW SPUSA there. Better to split the thing into two different freestanding articles, I think.
Thoughts??? Carrite ( talk) 04:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
The Tampa Bay local is chartered, but is currently suspended because it has not had elected the proper compliment of officers. Chegitz ( talk) 22:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
The Florida Division of Corporations which makes logos "official" has no record of any paperwork. A group of people voting to make something "official" does not make it so in the eyes of the law. Pay the annual fee like everyone else or remove the uncited section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.30.234 ( talk) 16:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Sad that the main person behind helping to revive the party in Florida would not be brought up in its' history and in fact attacked. This shows the total failure of infighting has reach an evermore all time high. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.148.253 ( talk) 07:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Filing papers to run for the nomination is not the same thing as being the Party's candidate. At this time, the Socialist Party of Florida has no candidates for governor. 12.43.115.249 ( talk) 20:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Has this party been active anywhere in the last five or six years? If so, is there any documentation? The trail seems to end around 2015, but I'll keep looking. -- Chillabit ( talk) 09:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
C.C. Allen is listed as a state legislator in " The Socialist Party of America: A Complete History" by Jack Ross. It was published by a university press ( University of Nebraska Press) so my presumption is to assume it is reliable. The book lists C. C. Allen as a state legislator. A search of JSTOR, newspapers.com, and archive.org only confirm that he was a socialist activist and the party's 1916 gubernatorial candidate. Most concerning, People of Lawmaking created by the Florida House of Representatives does not include him as a legislator. Is this an error in the book and if so at what point should he be removed from the article? Mpen320 ( talk) 03:54, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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On April 5, former SPFL chair, Brian Moore, was expelled from the Socialist Party. Jim Sanders was elected state chair. Chegitz ( talk) 17:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
This is where it gets tricky, does it not? The Universal Truce of Factional Bellybouncing has deemed that one Socialist Party terminated on December 31, 1972 at its New York Convention there when it transformed its name and mission to Social Democrats USA. This organization has been called, for convenience and clarity, by its original name of "Socialist Party of America" even though it used all sorts of names in a more or less official capacity throughout its 72 year life... This group was then succeeded by a new organization established part of the way in to 1973, called for convenience and clarity by its current name, Socialist Party, USA.
Thus is the delicate question of "legitimacy" sidestepped, the SPUSA faction being the smallest of the three siblings of 1973...
But here, with a state affiliate, party history is considered one complete run — which is not technically accurate and which might cause an outburst of Factional Bellybouncing.
I think, at a minimum, this article should be divided internally into sections... OLD SPA here and NEW SPUSA there. Better to split the thing into two different freestanding articles, I think.
Thoughts??? Carrite ( talk) 04:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
The Tampa Bay local is chartered, but is currently suspended because it has not had elected the proper compliment of officers. Chegitz ( talk) 22:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
The Florida Division of Corporations which makes logos "official" has no record of any paperwork. A group of people voting to make something "official" does not make it so in the eyes of the law. Pay the annual fee like everyone else or remove the uncited section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.30.234 ( talk) 16:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Sad that the main person behind helping to revive the party in Florida would not be brought up in its' history and in fact attacked. This shows the total failure of infighting has reach an evermore all time high. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.148.253 ( talk) 07:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Filing papers to run for the nomination is not the same thing as being the Party's candidate. At this time, the Socialist Party of Florida has no candidates for governor. 12.43.115.249 ( talk) 20:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Has this party been active anywhere in the last five or six years? If so, is there any documentation? The trail seems to end around 2015, but I'll keep looking. -- Chillabit ( talk) 09:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
C.C. Allen is listed as a state legislator in " The Socialist Party of America: A Complete History" by Jack Ross. It was published by a university press ( University of Nebraska Press) so my presumption is to assume it is reliable. The book lists C. C. Allen as a state legislator. A search of JSTOR, newspapers.com, and archive.org only confirm that he was a socialist activist and the party's 1916 gubernatorial candidate. Most concerning, People of Lawmaking created by the Florida House of Representatives does not include him as a legislator. Is this an error in the book and if so at what point should he be removed from the article? Mpen320 ( talk) 03:54, 7 September 2022 (UTC)