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The chapter removed was directly translated from the article about SV on Norwegian Wikipedia. It is written in a more objective manner than the similar chapter in the article about the Norwegian Progress Party on English Wikipedia. Why is critisism of the Progress Party allowed while critisism of the Socialist Left Party is removed?
It is obvious that user Soman will not allow any critisism of the Socialist Left Party, and will remove at will anything he or she doesn't like. This article is not objective.
-- Varyag 12:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Obviously there is a POV problem in the article about the Progress Party, which is a complete mess and would be better off deleted, but this is already labeled accordingly. But there is also a POV problem in this article. The Socialist Left Party have, as the Progress Party, a lot of wildcards who have made controversial statements more than once, as well as political issues which have raised serious questions. Whether or not you want to have a separate chapter called "critisism", critisism still have its place, even in a lexical context. The biggest POV problem with this article is your sensorship.
-- Varyag 20:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I have re-established the chapter you removed since your opinion about critisism of political parties is not a valid reason for your actions. Your are of course free to express such opinions on the discussion page, but I will report you for vandalism if you remove the chapter again. Wikipedia is not your personal political blog. -- Varyag 14:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
A do not edit the Norwegian version. This is English wikipedia, and I'm not taking any stands regarding the Norwegian iw. I cannot find any material in the so-called 'Criticism' chapter that holds any serious test. Let us procede by talking about the actual text:
Duh...? A national political parties have been critisized on several issues. Which political party with more than a year of existence hasn't been 'critisized on several issues'?
-- Soman 16:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC) With these passages removed, what would remain? -- Soman 16:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I think "independent socialists" means individual independent socialists rather than a specific party. Have amended accordingly. 90.195.30.2 18:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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Recently this edit was made [8], claiming this party's ideology to be "social democracy" which couldnt be farther from the truth. Also, the article originally said an "internal faction" was "marxist", not the whole party. See Conservative Party (UK) for more of such an example. There on internal faction is "Liberal conservatism" based on what leader David Cameron has declared himself. Likewise in this, just its the deputy leader and MP (if a party has a self-declared marxist as deputy leader, there must by definition exist such an internal faction). - GabaG ( talk) 04:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
We should create a section entitled "ideology" or "ideology and beliefs" and add references quotes and how the media percieves them, and only list Democratic socialism on the infobox. -- TIAYN ( talk) 07:56, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Arsenikk (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Overall, I find the article rather short. The article has a number of issues related to balance and length. In particular, it suffers from recentism, in that almost as much space is devoted to the past five years as the first 30. While I can agree that SV has had a lot of power and this can be considered the "golden age" and therefore can have more information per year than other periods, I would like to see a substantial lengthening of the pre-2005 history section. The article also tends to have a lot of "history" information mixed in with the ideology. Instead of listing the party leaders, why not just including it in the history section as prose. There should also be a section about 'organization', including such things as membership, chapters etc. Doesn't have to be long, and could include a number of current dispositions. For instance, there is in the main section no mention of who is in the party leadership, the parliamentary leader or membership figures. There are also two nice maps showing the geographical spread of the votes during the last election.
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.I am placing the article on hold. Arsenikk (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
History looks fine.
Congratulations with a good article. Hope to see more articles at GAN soon :) Arsenikk (talk) 10:54, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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The chapter removed was directly translated from the article about SV on Norwegian Wikipedia. It is written in a more objective manner than the similar chapter in the article about the Norwegian Progress Party on English Wikipedia. Why is critisism of the Progress Party allowed while critisism of the Socialist Left Party is removed?
It is obvious that user Soman will not allow any critisism of the Socialist Left Party, and will remove at will anything he or she doesn't like. This article is not objective.
-- Varyag 12:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Obviously there is a POV problem in the article about the Progress Party, which is a complete mess and would be better off deleted, but this is already labeled accordingly. But there is also a POV problem in this article. The Socialist Left Party have, as the Progress Party, a lot of wildcards who have made controversial statements more than once, as well as political issues which have raised serious questions. Whether or not you want to have a separate chapter called "critisism", critisism still have its place, even in a lexical context. The biggest POV problem with this article is your sensorship.
-- Varyag 20:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I have re-established the chapter you removed since your opinion about critisism of political parties is not a valid reason for your actions. Your are of course free to express such opinions on the discussion page, but I will report you for vandalism if you remove the chapter again. Wikipedia is not your personal political blog. -- Varyag 14:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
A do not edit the Norwegian version. This is English wikipedia, and I'm not taking any stands regarding the Norwegian iw. I cannot find any material in the so-called 'Criticism' chapter that holds any serious test. Let us procede by talking about the actual text:
Duh...? A national political parties have been critisized on several issues. Which political party with more than a year of existence hasn't been 'critisized on several issues'?
-- Soman 16:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC) With these passages removed, what would remain? -- Soman 16:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I think "independent socialists" means individual independent socialists rather than a specific party. Have amended accordingly. 90.195.30.2 18:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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Recently this edit was made [8], claiming this party's ideology to be "social democracy" which couldnt be farther from the truth. Also, the article originally said an "internal faction" was "marxist", not the whole party. See Conservative Party (UK) for more of such an example. There on internal faction is "Liberal conservatism" based on what leader David Cameron has declared himself. Likewise in this, just its the deputy leader and MP (if a party has a self-declared marxist as deputy leader, there must by definition exist such an internal faction). - GabaG ( talk) 04:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
We should create a section entitled "ideology" or "ideology and beliefs" and add references quotes and how the media percieves them, and only list Democratic socialism on the infobox. -- TIAYN ( talk) 07:56, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Arsenikk (talk) 21:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Overall, I find the article rather short. The article has a number of issues related to balance and length. In particular, it suffers from recentism, in that almost as much space is devoted to the past five years as the first 30. While I can agree that SV has had a lot of power and this can be considered the "golden age" and therefore can have more information per year than other periods, I would like to see a substantial lengthening of the pre-2005 history section. The article also tends to have a lot of "history" information mixed in with the ideology. Instead of listing the party leaders, why not just including it in the history section as prose. There should also be a section about 'organization', including such things as membership, chapters etc. Doesn't have to be long, and could include a number of current dispositions. For instance, there is in the main section no mention of who is in the party leadership, the parliamentary leader or membership figures. There are also two nice maps showing the geographical spread of the votes during the last election.
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History looks fine.
Congratulations with a good article. Hope to see more articles at GAN soon :) Arsenikk (talk) 10:54, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
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