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Slayer was never heavy metal or speed metal. They were only ever thrash metal. They were not part of the "Big 4 of Heavy Metal" they were part of the big 4 of thrash metal. I provided sources to show that they were too. Slayer never even made an album that was considered heavy metal. So unless you can actually provide a source showing that they are heavy metal or speed metal, stop adding them please. Thanks. Darkburzum ( talk) 18:25, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
My God! Why can't they just be both? Thrash is a subset of Heavy Metal. Your average Joe probably won't be able to tell the difference between the two anyway. Why are people so against calling them a thrash band when the whole world knows it's true? Now2blue ( talk) 20:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
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Does anyone know how to fix it? There are many black lines covering it. Statik N ( talk) 03:47, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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This seems like a really silly point of contention. They played their last show on November 30, 2019. They confirmed their breakup multiple times before the tour even started. If they're no longer playing or recording, what exactly is the argument for saying they're currently a band? Skeletor3000 ( talk) 00:40, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
For crying out loud, this is simple grammar. Slayer is a noun. Slayer is a band. They have specimens; cd's, t-shirts, website, etc, that are still, and will be for quite some time, in existence. Slayer *IS* a band. Further proofs: the members are still alive, no official announcement has been made that they buried themselves, etc.
In this day and age, will somebody just found out who the troll is that's doing this. If wikipedia admins won't step in, perhaps embarrassment would be sufficient to correct this page. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 17:51, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Slayer, in reference to this, are not an adjective. To anyone that understands the difference between nouns and adjectives, this is laugh out loud ridiculous. To make a joke; #shortbus 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:17, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Kurt Cobain is dead. That makes Nirvana an adjective as well as a noun, making "was" appropriate. I'm not going to continue to bother with this. I just find it funny, as I am an attorney, and this is just funny to me. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:24, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
I am just smiling and laughing. To make a joke #slayerfansmustbestupid. But really, it's obvious this is a trolling problem, and I'm not going to waste my time with it. But for those who want to, you need to go about requesting a consensus from wikipedia admins. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
For anyone that has the time to bother; /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Consensus. Farewell. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:32, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Why are Slayer speed metal? The answer to that question is obvious, they play at a blistering pace and always have done, from the very early days of their career. Why are they death metal, at least in the early days of their career? Again a very simple answer, they spent all day either talking about death itself lyrically or the luciferian as well God Forgive them and also, technically no-one can argue that Reign in Blood is not a Death Metal album. You simply cannot have the influence Slayer has had on extreme metal and death metal itself as a genre in general without being in some way, at least partly Death Metal yourself. Once again, this should be readily apparent as it simply stands to reason. Also, I clearly remember the British metal magazines I read myself as a teenager, namely Raw, Kerrang and Metal Hammer clearly referring to Slayer as a Death Metal and Speed Metal act in the mid to late 1980s. Anyone who would care to go through those magazines' issues from those years would clearly find those designations there. However as the 90s wore on that designation seemed to shift and Slayer were from then on categorised as fundamentally a Trash Metal outfit, hence the confusion but like I said, pull issues of the British Metal and Hard Rock magazines from that era and you will find copious references to Slayer as a speed metal and death metal act. Of the so-called " Big Four " in the 80s they were always slightly on the periphery, being regarded as the fastest, the most brutal, the heaviest, the most morbid in terms of lyrics and let's face it: essentially the most evil. Death metal they may not have remained but anyone who can argue that Reign in Blood is not one of the greatest Death Metal albums is no disrespect intended, simply talking nonsense. I'll say it again, you simply cannot have that much influence on a developing genre, namely Death and Speed Metal in the 1980s without being in some small way a part of that genre yourself. Not to me anyhow. Brádach Mac Gormáin ( talk) 23:20, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
This is an article on a very popular (and active until very recently) band that has not been reviewed since its promotion in 2007. Issues:
The band's lyrics and album art, which cover topics such as murder, serial killers, torture, genocide, politics, human subject research, organized crime, secret societies, mythology, occultism, Satanism, hate crimes, terrorism, religion or antireligion, Nazism, fascism, racism, xenophobia, war and prison, have generated album bans, delays, lawsuits and criticism from religious groups and factions of the general public- there's no reference in the body of the article to torture, genocide, politics, organized crime, secret societies, mythology, occultism, hate crimes, antireligion or xenophobia, so that's a lot of original research going on;
often being cited by many bands as an influence musically, visually and lyrically- There's zero mention of how they influenced other bands visually in the article and only one reference to lyrics in the Legacy section;
The album was the band's first to primarily feature dropped tuning, as featured on the lead track, "Bitter Peace", making use of the tritone interval referred to in the Middle Ages as the Devil's interval.- The provided reference for this sentence is an article about the tritone that only covers the 2nd part of the sentence (use in the Middle Ages), so that's a failed verification. This was just a random spotcheck, I did not check any of the other links;
The article needs to be updated to reflect the last 12+ years of coverage on the band. RetiredDuke ( talk) 19:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
How about including heavy metal? Vikthor06 ( talk) 13:44, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
i feel like slayer is definitely black metal. The satanic imagery and themes, the fast tempo, the tremolo picked riffs… definitely
https://www.kerrang.com/rick-rubin-says-slayer-were-one-of-the-inventors-of-black-metal
https://tonedeaf.thebrag.com/why-slayer-are-innovators-not-just-thrashers/amp/
also a source on metalwani, which is blacklisted for some reason. BoxxyBoy ( talk) 09:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Dette was never an actual member of the band, he helped out on a couple tours. The official drummers were Lombardo and bostaph. 142.160.108.140 ( talk) 05:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Listening to the old Slayer rehearsal tapes, from 1982, it is possible to see that most likely Slayer had plans to become a Black metal band, not only because of its aesthetics and symbology, but also because of the distortions that closely resembled that of a Blackstar (Blackpedal) apart from the vocals that were much more booming like a guttural vocal.
Which is not so hard to believe, since several other thrash metal bands either started out as black metal, or due to fate, ended up mixing the two genres, like Sepultura, Sarcófago, Bathory, Sodom, Venom with Slayer was no different.
So I edited it and it have to stay that way unless someone presents a counterpoint, until then, don't revert.
-- The Young Prussian ( talk) 22:49, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Why is he listed as a touring member in 1983 and 1996? In 1983 he was only the roadie for Slayer and I haven't found a single source confirming he played with them in 1996. There's not a single mention of that anywhere in Slayer biographies or in the Internet 77.254.250.141 ( talk) 10:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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Slayer was never heavy metal or speed metal. They were only ever thrash metal. They were not part of the "Big 4 of Heavy Metal" they were part of the big 4 of thrash metal. I provided sources to show that they were too. Slayer never even made an album that was considered heavy metal. So unless you can actually provide a source showing that they are heavy metal or speed metal, stop adding them please. Thanks. Darkburzum ( talk) 18:25, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
My God! Why can't they just be both? Thrash is a subset of Heavy Metal. Your average Joe probably won't be able to tell the difference between the two anyway. Why are people so against calling them a thrash band when the whole world knows it's true? Now2blue ( talk) 20:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
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Does anyone know how to fix it? There are many black lines covering it. Statik N ( talk) 03:47, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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This seems like a really silly point of contention. They played their last show on November 30, 2019. They confirmed their breakup multiple times before the tour even started. If they're no longer playing or recording, what exactly is the argument for saying they're currently a band? Skeletor3000 ( talk) 00:40, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
For crying out loud, this is simple grammar. Slayer is a noun. Slayer is a band. They have specimens; cd's, t-shirts, website, etc, that are still, and will be for quite some time, in existence. Slayer *IS* a band. Further proofs: the members are still alive, no official announcement has been made that they buried themselves, etc.
In this day and age, will somebody just found out who the troll is that's doing this. If wikipedia admins won't step in, perhaps embarrassment would be sufficient to correct this page. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 17:51, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Slayer, in reference to this, are not an adjective. To anyone that understands the difference between nouns and adjectives, this is laugh out loud ridiculous. To make a joke; #shortbus 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:17, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Kurt Cobain is dead. That makes Nirvana an adjective as well as a noun, making "was" appropriate. I'm not going to continue to bother with this. I just find it funny, as I am an attorney, and this is just funny to me. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:24, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
I am just smiling and laughing. To make a joke #slayerfansmustbestupid. But really, it's obvious this is a trolling problem, and I'm not going to waste my time with it. But for those who want to, you need to go about requesting a consensus from wikipedia admins. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
For anyone that has the time to bother; /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Consensus. Farewell. 97.84.218.68 ( talk) 18:32, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Why are Slayer speed metal? The answer to that question is obvious, they play at a blistering pace and always have done, from the very early days of their career. Why are they death metal, at least in the early days of their career? Again a very simple answer, they spent all day either talking about death itself lyrically or the luciferian as well God Forgive them and also, technically no-one can argue that Reign in Blood is not a Death Metal album. You simply cannot have the influence Slayer has had on extreme metal and death metal itself as a genre in general without being in some way, at least partly Death Metal yourself. Once again, this should be readily apparent as it simply stands to reason. Also, I clearly remember the British metal magazines I read myself as a teenager, namely Raw, Kerrang and Metal Hammer clearly referring to Slayer as a Death Metal and Speed Metal act in the mid to late 1980s. Anyone who would care to go through those magazines' issues from those years would clearly find those designations there. However as the 90s wore on that designation seemed to shift and Slayer were from then on categorised as fundamentally a Trash Metal outfit, hence the confusion but like I said, pull issues of the British Metal and Hard Rock magazines from that era and you will find copious references to Slayer as a speed metal and death metal act. Of the so-called " Big Four " in the 80s they were always slightly on the periphery, being regarded as the fastest, the most brutal, the heaviest, the most morbid in terms of lyrics and let's face it: essentially the most evil. Death metal they may not have remained but anyone who can argue that Reign in Blood is not one of the greatest Death Metal albums is no disrespect intended, simply talking nonsense. I'll say it again, you simply cannot have that much influence on a developing genre, namely Death and Speed Metal in the 1980s without being in some small way a part of that genre yourself. Not to me anyhow. Brádach Mac Gormáin ( talk) 23:20, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
This is an article on a very popular (and active until very recently) band that has not been reviewed since its promotion in 2007. Issues:
The band's lyrics and album art, which cover topics such as murder, serial killers, torture, genocide, politics, human subject research, organized crime, secret societies, mythology, occultism, Satanism, hate crimes, terrorism, religion or antireligion, Nazism, fascism, racism, xenophobia, war and prison, have generated album bans, delays, lawsuits and criticism from religious groups and factions of the general public- there's no reference in the body of the article to torture, genocide, politics, organized crime, secret societies, mythology, occultism, hate crimes, antireligion or xenophobia, so that's a lot of original research going on;
often being cited by many bands as an influence musically, visually and lyrically- There's zero mention of how they influenced other bands visually in the article and only one reference to lyrics in the Legacy section;
The album was the band's first to primarily feature dropped tuning, as featured on the lead track, "Bitter Peace", making use of the tritone interval referred to in the Middle Ages as the Devil's interval.- The provided reference for this sentence is an article about the tritone that only covers the 2nd part of the sentence (use in the Middle Ages), so that's a failed verification. This was just a random spotcheck, I did not check any of the other links;
The article needs to be updated to reflect the last 12+ years of coverage on the band. RetiredDuke ( talk) 19:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
How about including heavy metal? Vikthor06 ( talk) 13:44, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
i feel like slayer is definitely black metal. The satanic imagery and themes, the fast tempo, the tremolo picked riffs… definitely
https://www.kerrang.com/rick-rubin-says-slayer-were-one-of-the-inventors-of-black-metal
https://tonedeaf.thebrag.com/why-slayer-are-innovators-not-just-thrashers/amp/
also a source on metalwani, which is blacklisted for some reason. BoxxyBoy ( talk) 09:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Dette was never an actual member of the band, he helped out on a couple tours. The official drummers were Lombardo and bostaph. 142.160.108.140 ( talk) 05:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Listening to the old Slayer rehearsal tapes, from 1982, it is possible to see that most likely Slayer had plans to become a Black metal band, not only because of its aesthetics and symbology, but also because of the distortions that closely resembled that of a Blackstar (Blackpedal) apart from the vocals that were much more booming like a guttural vocal.
Which is not so hard to believe, since several other thrash metal bands either started out as black metal, or due to fate, ended up mixing the two genres, like Sepultura, Sarcófago, Bathory, Sodom, Venom with Slayer was no different.
So I edited it and it have to stay that way unless someone presents a counterpoint, until then, don't revert.
-- The Young Prussian ( talk) 22:49, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Why is he listed as a touring member in 1983 and 1996? In 1983 he was only the roadie for Slayer and I haven't found a single source confirming he played with them in 1996. There's not a single mention of that anywhere in Slayer biographies or in the Internet 77.254.250.141 ( talk) 10:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)