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Propose adding the following in the summary:
Beware of fraudulent sites with "Skype" in the name phishing for your credit card details to pay for "membership". Only use the official http://www.skype.com 71.115.84.119 13:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
How about the following:
HISHING SKYPE Because of the high popularity of Skype.com, some sites are using variations of skype in their name. e.g, Some sites such as skype-hq.com appear to be phishing for user credit card information in return for a one time "membership". 71.115.84.119 14:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello to the editorial team at Wikipedia! I recently wrote a page that explores the latest developments with Skype Phones, and I was wondering how I might be able to have it included as a resource for the users of Wikipedia? I didn't want my entry to be perceived as spam... Any advice?
216.171.96.94 21:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Zed
I came to this page looking for an article to understand what Skype is. Instead, it has become a rant on the security flaws of Skype, not an objective, encyclopedic dissertation on the features, benefits, and differentiators of Skype. This is easily the least objective, most poorly balanced wikipedia page I've ever seen.
It may be important for some readers to understand the [in]security of Skype, so it is definitely appropriate to spend a portion of the article on this. However, when I read the article, the security concerns seem to make up nearly 80% of the article, which hardly seems appropriate, especially for someone who is just looking to make VOIP calls with Grandma.
Security concerns should be a footnote, not the majority of the article. I'd like to see this article significantly edited for content, reigning in the focus so that it becomes an objective analysis. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.7.104.10 ( talk) 22:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC).
I just notice that this article's software infobox has labeled Skype as a web browser. I think you guys should change that and add a new software genre to the list consider VoIP is starting to gain steam. -- Anonymous Cow 17:40, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I first heard about skype in relation to controversy concerning regular telecommunication corporations being annoyed that their turf was being cut. And pressure being put on lawmakers to pass laws either banning skype (extreme) or taxing it (still not nice).-- ZayZayEM 09:34, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I removed the current version number for the windows version. This does not add any relevant content and creates an entery that has to be constatntly updated without bringing any encyclopedic information to the user. Matteo 12:14, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC)
How is such a lengthy repository of competition relevant to the article? Surely a list of VoIP article would serve this purpose better. -- IceflamePhoenix 00:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Umm.. What's up with the section "Customer service and number of users"?
Completely informal tone.
Unsupported/Uncited information.
I'd change this myself, but I'm not too versed in Wikipedia etiquette, so I thought I'd post here first.
So Skype hard disk access can be "extremely harmful" in the long term? What about e.g. journaling filesystems in Linux computers? Even in the days of ext2fs, you could put your HDD in sleep mode via hdparm and it would wake right up in couple of seconds. I don't think modern Windows systems are able run without accessing the HDD either.
I propose we add a page where Wikipedians add their Skype IDs, much like the instant messenger pages, and then add a link under "See also" to the page. Thoughts? -- Peter McGinley 11:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-- Tony Brown 12:09, 10 Oct 2005 (GMT)
I don't know if this is true in FireFox too, but in Mozilla the 'iLBC CODEC' section scrolls way off the page horizontally. -- Mithent 00:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
At least at the moment, why do we care about the iLBC CODEC? and why is FREE capitalised? and why is the skype journal a 'feature' of the codec. and why is the iLBC CODEC more important than the other codecs used by skype? -- Haggis
Is anyone aware if the skype application generates the key pair for the user, and keeps the private key only on the users computer or does Skype's server generate the pair and keep a copy of it. If skype's server generates the key pair, then they can listen in to you calls and txt msgs. Although no one else can. Vec 16 July 2005
I'm disappointed that the ad-hoc pronunciation of Skype has been removed (i.e. it rhymes with ripe). I always thought this was useful (previously I thought you said Sky-pee). I understand the pronunciation guidelines say you shouldn't add ad-hoc guides, but it does say:
Can we have it back please? -- Jamesedmo 15:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
by the way, in much of the world, specifically China, Japan and most Latin America, the "e" in Skype is pronounced -ee or -ehy -- Phil Wolff 06:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Unlike other applications, Skype polls the hard disk several times per minute. This can be verified either by observing the HDD led or by using a file access monitor such as Filemon. Although those accesses are small, extremely fast and safe in the short term, they can be extremely harmful in the long term. In particular the continuous access pattern does not allow the disk to enter sleep or idle modes while Skype is active, even when offline. This can severely reduce the lifespan of the HDD when Skype is running for a long time. Stronger HDD caching does not seem to improve the situation.
How, pray, do Skype know the residency of their customers. Do yopu mean to sayu that skypein is restricted to those with bank accounts in those particular countries? SqueakBox 21:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Maybe they use the IP address of the user!
-- PeterMarkSmith 12:16, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Well an IP address doesn't indicate one's residence but merely where one is at a given moment. You could be resident in France but on holiday in Honduras, or you could be resident in Honduras on holiday in France. If it were IP based you would merely have to be in France for a few hours to get a French number but couldn't if you were a resident abroad, which is not at all what the article implies. I strongly suspect it isn't IP based, and that Skype actually don't know where one is except through account details, SqueakBox 14:46, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
For France, you have to put a (French) residential address and declare that you are a French (mainland and Corsica only) resident [1]. After that Skype contacts your ISP for verification.
I seriously think (for France and Germany), this is breaking the law, as it doesn't allow European citizens to use the service, which in itself breaks European law on services. 159753 19:32, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thanks for the info. What a worrying, complex residence restriction. I wonder if you can give the ISP of the house where your French address is but still apply from a different ISP or whether they actually check IP addresses. The use of IP addresses by companies to restrict their services is a worrying trend, SqueakBox 19:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Could someone who knows how please fix the version numbers? -- Gary King 00:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
lack of EMS(911,etc) access?
The article says "The proprietary session establishment protocol is efficient and prevents both man-in-the-middle and replay attacks.". Has this been independently verified somehow, or is it just something the Skype Group says? If the latter is true, the article should state that the "Skype Group claims...". The current wording presents it as a known fact. -- Grahn 19:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Skyllian is a plugin for Trillian Pro that allows the controll of skype through the trillian's UI, I am not sure if a plugin should be included in the third party software, but it might be a reasonable addition. [ [2]] -- Zanthra 21:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Can we change the screenshot to display the Windows version? I mean, the Windows version of Skype is the most updated one with the most current UI, as opposed to the Linux version with its slightly ugly QT interface. I changed it myself at one point, but it looks like it was reverted, which is why I'm mentioning it here. -- Jeremy 07:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
"Now SAM does even more!" phrase just doesn't seem to be a Encyclopedia phrase, does it?
is it possible to dial UIFN (+800, international freephone) numbers from skype without adding credit? Plugwash 10:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
My fiancee is serving in Iraq and I want to know if the service is available there so he can download it and call the USA.
He should definitely try. I would be very surprised if he could not get it unless his ISP prohibits the service, which is of itself unusual. So he should take his headset and try. If Skype doesn't work he should try Google Talk etc. The Skype service is certainly available throughout the developing world, SqueakBox 13:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
does skype (Linux version) have spyware? Their homepage says they don't, but I've heard from many people that they do. (Contributed by 129.132.210.85)
The numbers of registered users on skype on wiki is very different from the other one the eBay presentation:
[3] is differnet from [4] on page 29
what is right?
I recently discovered Skype will repeatedly open "exceptions" (in Microsoft terminology) in the firewall built into Windows XP SP2. You can close these exceptions, and they will be opened again the next time you run Skype. I see no way to stop Skype from doing this.
Use TCPView to monitor unwanted Skype connections around the world.
"Since the Skype code is proprietary and closed source the security of the software can be readily established by lay-users." - This sentence has been altered a number of times, so what is correct?
It's worse: it contains anti-debugging features used extensively. This is typically done by malware authors to prevent the good guys from seeing what the malware is up to. Use of this in a honest product should be highly discouraged. If it were too be used for hiding secret (such as secret keys) it's a design failure as it'll not work, if it used to hide true intentions than the software should be avoided at all costs. See the blackhat paper for more details. 213.118.143.101 22:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
How come SkypeOut sound quality is generally much worse that Skype peer-to-peer?
Someone could place a link to this PDF: [ http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-europe-06/bh-eu-06-biondi/bh-eu-06-biondi-up.pdf] I think more people should be informed about the potential danger of skype. 85.71.30.103 21:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC) (zenek)
Officially, the free SkypeOut calling promotion is applicable in all 50 U.S. States and Canada. U.S. Territories (such as American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands) are not included in this offer. Is this correct? ref: "04:04, 16 May 2006 70.45.65.7 (added Puerto Rico (US Territory) to SkypeOut (i live in PR and tested it, free calling))"
The article does not state when the company was established, nor it's business model. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.249.79 ( talk • contribs) 12:13 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Stupid question: do you need internet access to use skype to skype or just a modem? I realize that you need the internet to download the software...but after that?
I downloaded skype but I didn't register for any paid service. If I call other peoples' landlines/mobile phones, will I get charged for the call? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.12.48 ( talk • contribs) 21:14 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I have aggressively removed any external link that did not seem to comply with WP:WEB. Should you feel that I overdid it, please come here before you put it back in so we can figure out together, whether it is appropiate to include the link. -- Ministry of Truth 17:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Even though I just pulled a long list of prefixes not covered by Skype in the US, a "Coverage" section with a compact listing and details about the coverage elsewhere around the globe might be interesting as well as a comparison with traditional VoIP services and alternatives such as freeworlddialup.com.
If any VoIP solution is fair game in there, we should get ready to be swamped in the closed source part.
I propose we restrict it to encrypted services with some minimum level of assessment that the encryption is more than just an unsubstantiated claim.
Otherwise extremely interesting alternatives such as zfone could get drowned in the mass of spammy me-too startups of questionable relevance. -- Ministry of Truth 10:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Alternatives are alternatives, let them be if they become spammy it's still possible to weed in them 213.118.143.101 22:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Is the caller ID information always masked when a SkypeOut call is placed? Camptown 13:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
In the alternative section, a lot of them are described as 'free' I think we should explain what type of free, as in beer, or speech is meant there - it's not always clear. Gravitor 18:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Quote "Skype also routes calls through other Skype peers on the network, which allows it to traverse Symmetric NATs and firewalls, unlike most other VoIP programs (The two most common VoIP protocols, SIP and H323 are usually UDP and point-to-point, making NAT traversal problematic.)[1] This, however, puts an extra burden on those who connect to the Internet without NAT, as their computers and network bandwidth may be used to route the calls of other users. The selection of intermediary computers is fully automatic, with individual users having no option to disable such use of their resources. This fact is not clearly communicated, however, and seems to contradict the license agreement which would limit Skype's utilisation of the user's "processor and bandwidth [to the] purpose of facilitating the communication between [the user] and other Skype Software users" (section 4.1)."
Actually, I checked the Licence Agreement, which as of 2.5 and today (30th June 06 reads)
"4.1 Utilization of Your computer. You hereby acknowledge that the Skype Software may utilize the processor and bandwidth of the computer (or other applicable device) You are utilizing, for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between Skype Software users."
NB: the phrase "between Skype Software users" rather than "You and other Skype Software Users..
Therefore the technique is not contradictory? Discussion anyone.
I guess this article was written by skype at skype HQ. I heard someone talking about skype as the next big thing and decided to search wikipedia. I was confronted with phrases like "Skype also routes calls through other Skype peers on the network, which allows it to traverse Symmetric NATs and firewalls, unlike most other VoIP programs" and "The use of end-user bandwidth in the form of supernodes, and the closed source nature of its software..." Can't Wikipedia features be written by people who can communicate with humans?
Please edit the article then, SqueakBox 20:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Skypein redirects here, but there's no discussion of it whatsoever. Can anyone fix that? Stevage 13:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
In the Security section, the article says "In 2004, Niklas Zennstrom, co-founder of Skype, appeared to admit in an article on The Register that the current security model used a relatively short key size". Then article then goes on to mention 1024 bits as the key size.
1024 bits in RSA isn't short at all and is still secure. We're nowhere near (at present) being able to crack 1024 bit RSA. Anyone agree that this paragraph should be changed? -- Tim1988 talk 14:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
My company recently issued a memo expressing appreciation for trying to save on phone costs, while at the same time banning the product corporate-wide, due to its tendency to consume network resources prodigiously. Wahkeenah 22:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
The linux section seems out of date. I installed Skype 1.2.0.17 from and rpm on Mandriva 2006 [5] My Yealink (Tesco) handset has a "driver" called SkypeMate [6] as a binary distribution for Fedora Core 3. The user manual [7] makes it clear that the installation includes a setup of the ALSA sound system. The USB hand set is autmatically detected as /dev/dsp1. That would tend to suggeste to me that Skype on linux is fully intgrated with ALSA. Anyone know more about this? Billlion 19:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
There appears to be a gap in this article. It does not describe the hardware that is required to actually talk to somebody. After I have made a connection, what do I do, just shout at my computer :-)? Can I plug a normal telephone into the modem port on my PC, the plugs are the same? Seriously, a description of the hardware required, and the interface setup would be useful. TiffaF 06:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
When reading the article, I just thought it was amusing to see a screenshot of Skype 1.0 under the "Technology" section of the article :D. — Jeremy Talk 09:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I just downloaded 2.6 beta version... anyone know what the "Live" tab is about? My company has the contents of that tab blocked. I guess I will find out tonight from home.
There is a duplicate reference [6][27] of Biondi-Desclaux, "A silver needle in the Skype"
i made some calls on skype to usa and canada and it was not free
its only free from and to the usa and canada 70.20.187.231 01:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Should iChat be considered as a closed-source alternative? It's only bundled with Macs, but it does video and audio chat.
Hi folks - I've removed the BT pricing bit from the criticism because I think it was misleading - sure BT do offer a 5p call for up to an hour - but only if you take the right option, and only in the evenings - a regualar daytime call would cost over 1 pound - more expensive than Skype. I left the material criticism in though because of course it's valid... Petesmiles 10:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm using Skype (1.5.0.80) for Mac, and I'd like to be able to somehow record calls. Since this doesn't seem to be supported by the program itself, does anyone know of a way this is possible using some other internal recording software? Or do I need to move to another VoIP platform like Gizmo? Cormaggio is learning 10:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC) theres a program called pamela that will do it
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Propose adding the following in the summary:
Beware of fraudulent sites with "Skype" in the name phishing for your credit card details to pay for "membership". Only use the official http://www.skype.com 71.115.84.119 13:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
How about the following:
HISHING SKYPE Because of the high popularity of Skype.com, some sites are using variations of skype in their name. e.g, Some sites such as skype-hq.com appear to be phishing for user credit card information in return for a one time "membership". 71.115.84.119 14:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello to the editorial team at Wikipedia! I recently wrote a page that explores the latest developments with Skype Phones, and I was wondering how I might be able to have it included as a resource for the users of Wikipedia? I didn't want my entry to be perceived as spam... Any advice?
216.171.96.94 21:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Zed
I came to this page looking for an article to understand what Skype is. Instead, it has become a rant on the security flaws of Skype, not an objective, encyclopedic dissertation on the features, benefits, and differentiators of Skype. This is easily the least objective, most poorly balanced wikipedia page I've ever seen.
It may be important for some readers to understand the [in]security of Skype, so it is definitely appropriate to spend a portion of the article on this. However, when I read the article, the security concerns seem to make up nearly 80% of the article, which hardly seems appropriate, especially for someone who is just looking to make VOIP calls with Grandma.
Security concerns should be a footnote, not the majority of the article. I'd like to see this article significantly edited for content, reigning in the focus so that it becomes an objective analysis. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.7.104.10 ( talk) 22:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC).
I just notice that this article's software infobox has labeled Skype as a web browser. I think you guys should change that and add a new software genre to the list consider VoIP is starting to gain steam. -- Anonymous Cow 17:40, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I first heard about skype in relation to controversy concerning regular telecommunication corporations being annoyed that their turf was being cut. And pressure being put on lawmakers to pass laws either banning skype (extreme) or taxing it (still not nice).-- ZayZayEM 09:34, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I removed the current version number for the windows version. This does not add any relevant content and creates an entery that has to be constatntly updated without bringing any encyclopedic information to the user. Matteo 12:14, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC)
How is such a lengthy repository of competition relevant to the article? Surely a list of VoIP article would serve this purpose better. -- IceflamePhoenix 00:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Umm.. What's up with the section "Customer service and number of users"?
Completely informal tone.
Unsupported/Uncited information.
I'd change this myself, but I'm not too versed in Wikipedia etiquette, so I thought I'd post here first.
So Skype hard disk access can be "extremely harmful" in the long term? What about e.g. journaling filesystems in Linux computers? Even in the days of ext2fs, you could put your HDD in sleep mode via hdparm and it would wake right up in couple of seconds. I don't think modern Windows systems are able run without accessing the HDD either.
I propose we add a page where Wikipedians add their Skype IDs, much like the instant messenger pages, and then add a link under "See also" to the page. Thoughts? -- Peter McGinley 11:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-- Tony Brown 12:09, 10 Oct 2005 (GMT)
I don't know if this is true in FireFox too, but in Mozilla the 'iLBC CODEC' section scrolls way off the page horizontally. -- Mithent 00:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
At least at the moment, why do we care about the iLBC CODEC? and why is FREE capitalised? and why is the skype journal a 'feature' of the codec. and why is the iLBC CODEC more important than the other codecs used by skype? -- Haggis
Is anyone aware if the skype application generates the key pair for the user, and keeps the private key only on the users computer or does Skype's server generate the pair and keep a copy of it. If skype's server generates the key pair, then they can listen in to you calls and txt msgs. Although no one else can. Vec 16 July 2005
I'm disappointed that the ad-hoc pronunciation of Skype has been removed (i.e. it rhymes with ripe). I always thought this was useful (previously I thought you said Sky-pee). I understand the pronunciation guidelines say you shouldn't add ad-hoc guides, but it does say:
Can we have it back please? -- Jamesedmo 15:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
by the way, in much of the world, specifically China, Japan and most Latin America, the "e" in Skype is pronounced -ee or -ehy -- Phil Wolff 06:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Unlike other applications, Skype polls the hard disk several times per minute. This can be verified either by observing the HDD led or by using a file access monitor such as Filemon. Although those accesses are small, extremely fast and safe in the short term, they can be extremely harmful in the long term. In particular the continuous access pattern does not allow the disk to enter sleep or idle modes while Skype is active, even when offline. This can severely reduce the lifespan of the HDD when Skype is running for a long time. Stronger HDD caching does not seem to improve the situation.
How, pray, do Skype know the residency of their customers. Do yopu mean to sayu that skypein is restricted to those with bank accounts in those particular countries? SqueakBox 21:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Maybe they use the IP address of the user!
-- PeterMarkSmith 12:16, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Well an IP address doesn't indicate one's residence but merely where one is at a given moment. You could be resident in France but on holiday in Honduras, or you could be resident in Honduras on holiday in France. If it were IP based you would merely have to be in France for a few hours to get a French number but couldn't if you were a resident abroad, which is not at all what the article implies. I strongly suspect it isn't IP based, and that Skype actually don't know where one is except through account details, SqueakBox 14:46, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
For France, you have to put a (French) residential address and declare that you are a French (mainland and Corsica only) resident [1]. After that Skype contacts your ISP for verification.
I seriously think (for France and Germany), this is breaking the law, as it doesn't allow European citizens to use the service, which in itself breaks European law on services. 159753 19:32, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thanks for the info. What a worrying, complex residence restriction. I wonder if you can give the ISP of the house where your French address is but still apply from a different ISP or whether they actually check IP addresses. The use of IP addresses by companies to restrict their services is a worrying trend, SqueakBox 19:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Could someone who knows how please fix the version numbers? -- Gary King 00:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
lack of EMS(911,etc) access?
The article says "The proprietary session establishment protocol is efficient and prevents both man-in-the-middle and replay attacks.". Has this been independently verified somehow, or is it just something the Skype Group says? If the latter is true, the article should state that the "Skype Group claims...". The current wording presents it as a known fact. -- Grahn 19:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Skyllian is a plugin for Trillian Pro that allows the controll of skype through the trillian's UI, I am not sure if a plugin should be included in the third party software, but it might be a reasonable addition. [ [2]] -- Zanthra 21:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Can we change the screenshot to display the Windows version? I mean, the Windows version of Skype is the most updated one with the most current UI, as opposed to the Linux version with its slightly ugly QT interface. I changed it myself at one point, but it looks like it was reverted, which is why I'm mentioning it here. -- Jeremy 07:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
"Now SAM does even more!" phrase just doesn't seem to be a Encyclopedia phrase, does it?
is it possible to dial UIFN (+800, international freephone) numbers from skype without adding credit? Plugwash 10:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
My fiancee is serving in Iraq and I want to know if the service is available there so he can download it and call the USA.
He should definitely try. I would be very surprised if he could not get it unless his ISP prohibits the service, which is of itself unusual. So he should take his headset and try. If Skype doesn't work he should try Google Talk etc. The Skype service is certainly available throughout the developing world, SqueakBox 13:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
does skype (Linux version) have spyware? Their homepage says they don't, but I've heard from many people that they do. (Contributed by 129.132.210.85)
The numbers of registered users on skype on wiki is very different from the other one the eBay presentation:
[3] is differnet from [4] on page 29
what is right?
I recently discovered Skype will repeatedly open "exceptions" (in Microsoft terminology) in the firewall built into Windows XP SP2. You can close these exceptions, and they will be opened again the next time you run Skype. I see no way to stop Skype from doing this.
Use TCPView to monitor unwanted Skype connections around the world.
"Since the Skype code is proprietary and closed source the security of the software can be readily established by lay-users." - This sentence has been altered a number of times, so what is correct?
It's worse: it contains anti-debugging features used extensively. This is typically done by malware authors to prevent the good guys from seeing what the malware is up to. Use of this in a honest product should be highly discouraged. If it were too be used for hiding secret (such as secret keys) it's a design failure as it'll not work, if it used to hide true intentions than the software should be avoided at all costs. See the blackhat paper for more details. 213.118.143.101 22:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
How come SkypeOut sound quality is generally much worse that Skype peer-to-peer?
Someone could place a link to this PDF: [ http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-europe-06/bh-eu-06-biondi/bh-eu-06-biondi-up.pdf] I think more people should be informed about the potential danger of skype. 85.71.30.103 21:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC) (zenek)
Officially, the free SkypeOut calling promotion is applicable in all 50 U.S. States and Canada. U.S. Territories (such as American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands) are not included in this offer. Is this correct? ref: "04:04, 16 May 2006 70.45.65.7 (added Puerto Rico (US Territory) to SkypeOut (i live in PR and tested it, free calling))"
The article does not state when the company was established, nor it's business model. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.249.79 ( talk • contribs) 12:13 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Stupid question: do you need internet access to use skype to skype or just a modem? I realize that you need the internet to download the software...but after that?
I downloaded skype but I didn't register for any paid service. If I call other peoples' landlines/mobile phones, will I get charged for the call? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.12.48 ( talk • contribs) 21:14 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I have aggressively removed any external link that did not seem to comply with WP:WEB. Should you feel that I overdid it, please come here before you put it back in so we can figure out together, whether it is appropiate to include the link. -- Ministry of Truth 17:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Even though I just pulled a long list of prefixes not covered by Skype in the US, a "Coverage" section with a compact listing and details about the coverage elsewhere around the globe might be interesting as well as a comparison with traditional VoIP services and alternatives such as freeworlddialup.com.
If any VoIP solution is fair game in there, we should get ready to be swamped in the closed source part.
I propose we restrict it to encrypted services with some minimum level of assessment that the encryption is more than just an unsubstantiated claim.
Otherwise extremely interesting alternatives such as zfone could get drowned in the mass of spammy me-too startups of questionable relevance. -- Ministry of Truth 10:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Alternatives are alternatives, let them be if they become spammy it's still possible to weed in them 213.118.143.101 22:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Is the caller ID information always masked when a SkypeOut call is placed? Camptown 13:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
In the alternative section, a lot of them are described as 'free' I think we should explain what type of free, as in beer, or speech is meant there - it's not always clear. Gravitor 18:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Quote "Skype also routes calls through other Skype peers on the network, which allows it to traverse Symmetric NATs and firewalls, unlike most other VoIP programs (The two most common VoIP protocols, SIP and H323 are usually UDP and point-to-point, making NAT traversal problematic.)[1] This, however, puts an extra burden on those who connect to the Internet without NAT, as their computers and network bandwidth may be used to route the calls of other users. The selection of intermediary computers is fully automatic, with individual users having no option to disable such use of their resources. This fact is not clearly communicated, however, and seems to contradict the license agreement which would limit Skype's utilisation of the user's "processor and bandwidth [to the] purpose of facilitating the communication between [the user] and other Skype Software users" (section 4.1)."
Actually, I checked the Licence Agreement, which as of 2.5 and today (30th June 06 reads)
"4.1 Utilization of Your computer. You hereby acknowledge that the Skype Software may utilize the processor and bandwidth of the computer (or other applicable device) You are utilizing, for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between Skype Software users."
NB: the phrase "between Skype Software users" rather than "You and other Skype Software Users..
Therefore the technique is not contradictory? Discussion anyone.
I guess this article was written by skype at skype HQ. I heard someone talking about skype as the next big thing and decided to search wikipedia. I was confronted with phrases like "Skype also routes calls through other Skype peers on the network, which allows it to traverse Symmetric NATs and firewalls, unlike most other VoIP programs" and "The use of end-user bandwidth in the form of supernodes, and the closed source nature of its software..." Can't Wikipedia features be written by people who can communicate with humans?
Please edit the article then, SqueakBox 20:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Skypein redirects here, but there's no discussion of it whatsoever. Can anyone fix that? Stevage 13:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
In the Security section, the article says "In 2004, Niklas Zennstrom, co-founder of Skype, appeared to admit in an article on The Register that the current security model used a relatively short key size". Then article then goes on to mention 1024 bits as the key size.
1024 bits in RSA isn't short at all and is still secure. We're nowhere near (at present) being able to crack 1024 bit RSA. Anyone agree that this paragraph should be changed? -- Tim1988 talk 14:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
My company recently issued a memo expressing appreciation for trying to save on phone costs, while at the same time banning the product corporate-wide, due to its tendency to consume network resources prodigiously. Wahkeenah 22:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
The linux section seems out of date. I installed Skype 1.2.0.17 from and rpm on Mandriva 2006 [5] My Yealink (Tesco) handset has a "driver" called SkypeMate [6] as a binary distribution for Fedora Core 3. The user manual [7] makes it clear that the installation includes a setup of the ALSA sound system. The USB hand set is autmatically detected as /dev/dsp1. That would tend to suggeste to me that Skype on linux is fully intgrated with ALSA. Anyone know more about this? Billlion 19:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
There appears to be a gap in this article. It does not describe the hardware that is required to actually talk to somebody. After I have made a connection, what do I do, just shout at my computer :-)? Can I plug a normal telephone into the modem port on my PC, the plugs are the same? Seriously, a description of the hardware required, and the interface setup would be useful. TiffaF 06:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
When reading the article, I just thought it was amusing to see a screenshot of Skype 1.0 under the "Technology" section of the article :D. — Jeremy Talk 09:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I just downloaded 2.6 beta version... anyone know what the "Live" tab is about? My company has the contents of that tab blocked. I guess I will find out tonight from home.
There is a duplicate reference [6][27] of Biondi-Desclaux, "A silver needle in the Skype"
i made some calls on skype to usa and canada and it was not free
its only free from and to the usa and canada 70.20.187.231 01:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Should iChat be considered as a closed-source alternative? It's only bundled with Macs, but it does video and audio chat.
Hi folks - I've removed the BT pricing bit from the criticism because I think it was misleading - sure BT do offer a 5p call for up to an hour - but only if you take the right option, and only in the evenings - a regualar daytime call would cost over 1 pound - more expensive than Skype. I left the material criticism in though because of course it's valid... Petesmiles 10:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm using Skype (1.5.0.80) for Mac, and I'd like to be able to somehow record calls. Since this doesn't seem to be supported by the program itself, does anyone know of a way this is possible using some other internal recording software? Or do I need to move to another VoIP platform like Gizmo? Cormaggio is learning 10:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC) theres a program called pamela that will do it