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Hello all, thank you for helping improve this page. One thing I would love to do is track down some original sources from Colin Tweddell (he is cited heavily in secondary sources). In any case, thank you to everyone who wants to work on the page! Paulie 27 talk 09:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: The article could be improved by diversifying sources. There's an overreliance on Hollenbeck. In a couple of places sections of text rely on primary sources which I've marked as needing better sources.
TarnishedPath talk 07:55, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
@ PersusjCP, Thank you for your reorganization! The page looks great. I did want to ping you about some of my concerns which I voiced through citation/clarification tags. Here's a summary of the citations/clarifications tags I added:
Article: Today, most Skykomish are enrolled in the Tulalip Tribes of Washington and the Snoqualmie Indian Tribe
Citation tag: All of this paragraph is later supported by sources, except (I believe) the assertion that most Skykomish are now enrolled in Snoqualmie/Tulalip tribes.
Article: ...the decision was reversed by Judge
Don Nelson Laramore, granting the Snoqualmie Tribe a settlement of $257,698.29 in compensation for the Snoqualmie and Skykomish combined.
Clarification tag: What was the tribe being compensated for?
Article: To this day, the Skykomish are recognized as one of the founding nations of the Tulalip Tribes.
Clarification tag: per the source, "The Tulalip Tribes, [are the] successors in interest to the Snohomish, Snoqualmie, Skykomish, and other allied tribes and bands signatory to the 1855 Treaty of Point Elliott." It doesn't state that the Skykomish are a founding nation of the Tulalip. Can we find a source that states the Skykomish are indeed still thought of as a founding people of the Tulalip? One can certainly draw that conclusion from the Point Elliott Treaty, but that veers into WP:OR in my opinion.
Article: Although usage in Lushootseed has declined in recent years with the death of the last native speakers, both successor tribes of the Skykomish, the Tulalip and the Snoqualmie, have language programs and are working towards revitalizing the Lushootseed language.
Citation tag: this needs to be backed up somehow.
Thanks again for all your work on the page.
Paulie 27
talk 00:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hello all, thank you for helping improve this page. One thing I would love to do is track down some original sources from Colin Tweddell (he is cited heavily in secondary sources). In any case, thank you to everyone who wants to work on the page! Paulie 27 talk 09:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: The article could be improved by diversifying sources. There's an overreliance on Hollenbeck. In a couple of places sections of text rely on primary sources which I've marked as needing better sources.
TarnishedPath talk 07:55, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
@ PersusjCP, Thank you for your reorganization! The page looks great. I did want to ping you about some of my concerns which I voiced through citation/clarification tags. Here's a summary of the citations/clarifications tags I added:
Article: Today, most Skykomish are enrolled in the Tulalip Tribes of Washington and the Snoqualmie Indian Tribe
Citation tag: All of this paragraph is later supported by sources, except (I believe) the assertion that most Skykomish are now enrolled in Snoqualmie/Tulalip tribes.
Article: ...the decision was reversed by Judge
Don Nelson Laramore, granting the Snoqualmie Tribe a settlement of $257,698.29 in compensation for the Snoqualmie and Skykomish combined.
Clarification tag: What was the tribe being compensated for?
Article: To this day, the Skykomish are recognized as one of the founding nations of the Tulalip Tribes.
Clarification tag: per the source, "The Tulalip Tribes, [are the] successors in interest to the Snohomish, Snoqualmie, Skykomish, and other allied tribes and bands signatory to the 1855 Treaty of Point Elliott." It doesn't state that the Skykomish are a founding nation of the Tulalip. Can we find a source that states the Skykomish are indeed still thought of as a founding people of the Tulalip? One can certainly draw that conclusion from the Point Elliott Treaty, but that veers into WP:OR in my opinion.
Article: Although usage in Lushootseed has declined in recent years with the death of the last native speakers, both successor tribes of the Skykomish, the Tulalip and the Snoqualmie, have language programs and are working towards revitalizing the Lushootseed language.
Citation tag: this needs to be backed up somehow.
Thanks again for all your work on the page.
Paulie 27
talk 00:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)