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I'm not the best at writing things, so I'll leave this to someone else. But today is the last day Skybus is going to fly. Beginning Saturday, all flights have been canceled. http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2008/04/04/flight.html?sid=102 24.95.33.170 ( talk)
SKYBUST! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.238.31.40 ( talk) 16:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I noticed some new information just popped up for this article by a couple unregistered users and it has no reference. I searched, but could find none either. If anyone knows where this info came from and whether it is real, please reply to this. Thank you. Polypmaster
this airline is happening as they are now lnading at pease every day
Can anybody reference the claim that 156 seats on an A319 require 28" pitch? Or did somebody compute that as 30" * 144 (usual capacity) / 156? The "Germanwings configuration" of A319, designed by the German no-frills airline of that name, apparently achieves 156 capacity with normal pitch (by removing screens etc). Given their number is exactly the same, I'd guess Skybus borrowed the configuration?
Is this actually sourced on the date that April 16 will be announced the destinations. I can not find this anywhere. Is it true? Arigont 13:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey Arigont, I was wondering the same thing! I can't find that information anywhere. I live in Columbus and I went to the news websities, newspaper, google, ask.com, altavista, and tons of other things but got nothing. WHO EVER PUT APRIL 16, PLEASE TELL WHERE YOU FOUND IT OUT!!! Thanks, American Airlines 757-767 Captian J.P.
23:25 (UTC) 02 Jul, 2007
This section either needs sourced or deleted. I'm a bit more in favor of deletion because none of the flights have started yet so how can we know how experenced the pilots & flight attendents are or how "pushy" the flight attendents are until they start flying. Jon 14:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm in favor of removing the section. FatBurger 19:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Keep it removed (for now). There was too much commentary in it. // Pilot guy radar contact 00:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm amazed that this section was deleted-Skybus has certainly attracted more than it's fair share of criticism, and lack of this section in the article is misleading. I flew Skybus for the first time a few days ago, Oakland to Port Columbus, and had a miserable experience. While some of this can certainly be chalked up to bad luck, I can confirm some of the issues that seem to be referenced here (although I cannot find the original criticism section (new to editing)). First, I flew on Dec. 26, 2008 on flight 215 in what the pilot claimed to be a 1 year old Airbus, and I it certainly looked new. The seats lacked the fabric accordion seat back pockets, which I've never seen before.
I experienced approximately one hour line to check bags, even though no other airline at that terminal in Oakland had more than one or two parties in line. Skybus appeared to have only 2 staff working at the counter at that time. The party in front of me during the boarding process claimed they had paid for priority boarding but were placed in boarding group 3. My brother, who was joining me, had paid for priority boarding on his flight out to Oakland from Port Columbus but had been placed in group 3 on that leg.
Finally, I was woken up during my flight by a pilot (not the captain of this flight) who took the opportunity to tell me why I should purchase a set of goods they walked through the cabin on a cart, especially the children's' backpacks. He discussed the backpacks at length. I fly a lot and have never experience this sort of sales pitch in the cabin before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.164.203.75 ( talk) 00:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
What are the headquarters' address, telephone numbers, addresses for chief executives' email ?... check with business libraries' reference desks and check business directories for the headquarters' address, telephone numbers, addresses for chief executives' email. dsaklad@zurich.csail.mit.edu 12:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
"Starting pilot wages will also be well below average, starting at $65,000 annually.[12] The average commercial airline pilot wage is approximately $135,000.[13]" The second sentence is apples to oranges because it's comparing a starting pilots salary to the pilots with average about of experence. Jon 18:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Is the chart about number of aircraft in service, type and seating size needed? That information can be found in other paragraphs and in the infobox. Even if we want to keep it, the leased 319s are 144 seats, the new ones coming at the end of 2008 will be 156. Polypmaster 13:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Average CPT pay is:70K (if you work extra) Average F/O Pay is:33K (if you work extra) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.153.165.141 ( talk) 14:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I am curious if anyone has any updated information on the 65 aircraft Skybus ordered from Airbus. Originally they were to begin delivery at the end of 2008, but it appears that Skybus has already received their first plane. (see: http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a319-3171.htm) Notice that the first flight of this aircraft was June 20th, 2007. According to other sources on the net this is the first plane to be delivered to Skybus, but I have not seen any info in a credible news source. I also believe this is their first 156 seat plane. Thanks for any info. Polypmaster 21:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The plane that Skybus recieved is a leased aircraft from airbus and is not one of their own planes, it also only has 2 bathrooms and larger galley space. They also will be geting 2 older a319 from Air Canada later this year. Thanks Skybuspilot10123
No it is a 150 seater. Skybuspiolt10123
You are seeing info like that because Skybus did lease the aircraft from Airbus. One of the very few aircraft in the world that are. The first purchased aircraft from Airbus will have 2 isles and a seating of 2-2-2. Skybuspilot10123
Thanks, The Flight Attendents keep telling everyone about it so i did. Have you flown us yet? -- Skybuspilot10123 16:06, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
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I stumbled across this article and I do not see why it is not a B-class article. The reasons stated were bad referencing but I think the citation templates and number of references are more than sufficient for a B-class article. I would suggest the main editors submit this article for a new rating. Professor Davies 19:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
While reviewing one of the references about the Charlotte flights, I noticed that the information provided seemed eerily familiar to a lot of text I wrote in the Wikipedia article on Skybus. By the end I had realized that the author of the article not only used the Wikipedia information to write his article, but he misinterpreted the funding section. When he stated that Skybus had raised $233 million in startup capital, I thought to myself, "I don't remember that number from anywhere. I thought is was $160 million." I then looked at the Wikipedia article and noticed that the wording in the funding section suggests the $72.7 million raised in second-round funding is seperate form the $160 million, not part of it. Adding those numbers, you get $232.7 million. I changed the wording so it makes more sense, but this is a good lesson in proper writing. While I do not advocate journalists referring to Wikipedia for their articles, it will happen regardless, so everyone needs to be careful. Have a good day. Polypmaster 14:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed that MD11Driver made a number of edits recently that do not have any references, and are most likely insider information. On top of that, they are poorly worded with a number of run-on sentences. While insider sources are not unacceptable, without a reference to the source the information is essentially useless in an encyclopedia. I am too busy to work on these edits, but the options are:
a) Revert them until sources for the information are found.
b) Clean up the text, remove/edit any biased text, and add sources.
Until this is done, the article's information is questionable at best. No offense to MD11Driver, I appreciate your additions, but as Wikipedia is in encyclopedia format and is heavily scrutinized, all attempts must be made to provide clear, concise, accurate, unbiased information to its readers.
Polypmaster 11:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I have a question. Does anyone know the exact year when Skybus was founded? Reading the Skybus Airlines article last summer, it said that the airline was founded in 2006. Reading the article today, it said that the airline is founded in 2004. I wonder which one is more correct. NHRHS2010 talk 05:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I recenty flew round trip on Skybus to Punta Gorda, and I did not see any advertisements on the interior of either aircraft. I flew down on the Capital One sponsored plane, and flew back on the "Spirit of Columbus" aircraft. Neither plane contained ANY interior advertisements (excluding the in-flight shopping magazine). The "increasing revenue" section may need to be edited to tell that only part of skybus's fleet contains interior advertisements, or that interior advertising is something that will be incorporated on future skybus aircraft as a means of increasing revenue.
User:70.60.16.198 6:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
It looks like the $10 fares are a thing of the past. If you goto their website the cheapest fares start at $35 each way and on some weekends it is $55. This even applies to flights from new airports. I have not updated the article, because I cannot find an article confirming the fare increase. 22.24z 10 Jan 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.104.27.5 ( talk) 22:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Pleae fix the Average Captains pay....it is so far off. Average Cpt pay is about 70K IF YOU WORK EXTRA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.153.165.141 ( talk) 14:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
This is listed at the end, can anyone explain what it is? Thanks! 140.180.166.176 ( talk) 19:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Does SX have any focus cities? Could Portsmouth NH count as one? 68.38.85.192 ( talk) 20:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
in case article needs it:
Skybus Announcement
Skybus Airlines will cease all operations effective Saturday, April 5.
Skybus struggled to overcome the combination of rising jet fuel costs and a slowing economic environment. These two issues proved to be insurmountable for a new carrier.
We deeply regret the impact this decision will have on our employees and their families, customers, vendors, suppliers, airport officials and others in the cities in which we have operated. Our financial condition is such that our Board of Directors felt it had no choice but to cease operations.
Passengers holding reservations for Skybus flights scheduled to depart on or after Saturday, April 5, 2008 should contact their credit card companies to arrange to apply for a refund. More information for customers and others will be made available on the Skybus web site (www.skybus.com) as it becomes available.
All flights for Friday, April 4 will be completed. Passengers holding reservations on flights for Friday, April 4 should check in for their flight at a Skybus kiosk at the airport instead of the Skybus website. - Obrez ( talk) 21:56, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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I'm not the best at writing things, so I'll leave this to someone else. But today is the last day Skybus is going to fly. Beginning Saturday, all flights have been canceled. http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2008/04/04/flight.html?sid=102 24.95.33.170 ( talk)
SKYBUST! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.238.31.40 ( talk) 16:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I noticed some new information just popped up for this article by a couple unregistered users and it has no reference. I searched, but could find none either. If anyone knows where this info came from and whether it is real, please reply to this. Thank you. Polypmaster
this airline is happening as they are now lnading at pease every day
Can anybody reference the claim that 156 seats on an A319 require 28" pitch? Or did somebody compute that as 30" * 144 (usual capacity) / 156? The "Germanwings configuration" of A319, designed by the German no-frills airline of that name, apparently achieves 156 capacity with normal pitch (by removing screens etc). Given their number is exactly the same, I'd guess Skybus borrowed the configuration?
Is this actually sourced on the date that April 16 will be announced the destinations. I can not find this anywhere. Is it true? Arigont 13:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey Arigont, I was wondering the same thing! I can't find that information anywhere. I live in Columbus and I went to the news websities, newspaper, google, ask.com, altavista, and tons of other things but got nothing. WHO EVER PUT APRIL 16, PLEASE TELL WHERE YOU FOUND IT OUT!!! Thanks, American Airlines 757-767 Captian J.P.
23:25 (UTC) 02 Jul, 2007
This section either needs sourced or deleted. I'm a bit more in favor of deletion because none of the flights have started yet so how can we know how experenced the pilots & flight attendents are or how "pushy" the flight attendents are until they start flying. Jon 14:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm in favor of removing the section. FatBurger 19:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Keep it removed (for now). There was too much commentary in it. // Pilot guy radar contact 00:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm amazed that this section was deleted-Skybus has certainly attracted more than it's fair share of criticism, and lack of this section in the article is misleading. I flew Skybus for the first time a few days ago, Oakland to Port Columbus, and had a miserable experience. While some of this can certainly be chalked up to bad luck, I can confirm some of the issues that seem to be referenced here (although I cannot find the original criticism section (new to editing)). First, I flew on Dec. 26, 2008 on flight 215 in what the pilot claimed to be a 1 year old Airbus, and I it certainly looked new. The seats lacked the fabric accordion seat back pockets, which I've never seen before.
I experienced approximately one hour line to check bags, even though no other airline at that terminal in Oakland had more than one or two parties in line. Skybus appeared to have only 2 staff working at the counter at that time. The party in front of me during the boarding process claimed they had paid for priority boarding but were placed in boarding group 3. My brother, who was joining me, had paid for priority boarding on his flight out to Oakland from Port Columbus but had been placed in group 3 on that leg.
Finally, I was woken up during my flight by a pilot (not the captain of this flight) who took the opportunity to tell me why I should purchase a set of goods they walked through the cabin on a cart, especially the children's' backpacks. He discussed the backpacks at length. I fly a lot and have never experience this sort of sales pitch in the cabin before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.164.203.75 ( talk) 00:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
What are the headquarters' address, telephone numbers, addresses for chief executives' email ?... check with business libraries' reference desks and check business directories for the headquarters' address, telephone numbers, addresses for chief executives' email. dsaklad@zurich.csail.mit.edu 12:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
"Starting pilot wages will also be well below average, starting at $65,000 annually.[12] The average commercial airline pilot wage is approximately $135,000.[13]" The second sentence is apples to oranges because it's comparing a starting pilots salary to the pilots with average about of experence. Jon 18:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Is the chart about number of aircraft in service, type and seating size needed? That information can be found in other paragraphs and in the infobox. Even if we want to keep it, the leased 319s are 144 seats, the new ones coming at the end of 2008 will be 156. Polypmaster 13:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Average CPT pay is:70K (if you work extra) Average F/O Pay is:33K (if you work extra) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.153.165.141 ( talk) 14:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I am curious if anyone has any updated information on the 65 aircraft Skybus ordered from Airbus. Originally they were to begin delivery at the end of 2008, but it appears that Skybus has already received their first plane. (see: http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a319-3171.htm) Notice that the first flight of this aircraft was June 20th, 2007. According to other sources on the net this is the first plane to be delivered to Skybus, but I have not seen any info in a credible news source. I also believe this is their first 156 seat plane. Thanks for any info. Polypmaster 21:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
The plane that Skybus recieved is a leased aircraft from airbus and is not one of their own planes, it also only has 2 bathrooms and larger galley space. They also will be geting 2 older a319 from Air Canada later this year. Thanks Skybuspilot10123
No it is a 150 seater. Skybuspiolt10123
You are seeing info like that because Skybus did lease the aircraft from Airbus. One of the very few aircraft in the world that are. The first purchased aircraft from Airbus will have 2 isles and a seating of 2-2-2. Skybuspilot10123
Thanks, The Flight Attendents keep telling everyone about it so i did. Have you flown us yet? -- Skybuspilot10123 16:06, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Golich17 has decided that this page should be cited with only a direct link rather than use of a citation template. He states that using templates is messy and time consuming. I personally have not done a whole lot of work on this page, but I know others who have would probably like to comment. Wikipedia:Citing_sources#How_to_cite_sources notes that neither method is preferred, however if a page has consistently used one style, it should not be changed without discussion first. I personally am in favor of using citation templates. Especially with news, if the link goes dead for some reason, it is much easier to track down the particular text when you have all the info there. Because it does specifically say "citation templates should not be added against consensus, and editors should not change articles from one style to another if there are objections" in WP:REF, I'm going to revert the page back to its previous state pending the outcome of this discussion.-- Analogue Kid 19:15, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I stumbled across this article and I do not see why it is not a B-class article. The reasons stated were bad referencing but I think the citation templates and number of references are more than sufficient for a B-class article. I would suggest the main editors submit this article for a new rating. Professor Davies 19:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
While reviewing one of the references about the Charlotte flights, I noticed that the information provided seemed eerily familiar to a lot of text I wrote in the Wikipedia article on Skybus. By the end I had realized that the author of the article not only used the Wikipedia information to write his article, but he misinterpreted the funding section. When he stated that Skybus had raised $233 million in startup capital, I thought to myself, "I don't remember that number from anywhere. I thought is was $160 million." I then looked at the Wikipedia article and noticed that the wording in the funding section suggests the $72.7 million raised in second-round funding is seperate form the $160 million, not part of it. Adding those numbers, you get $232.7 million. I changed the wording so it makes more sense, but this is a good lesson in proper writing. While I do not advocate journalists referring to Wikipedia for their articles, it will happen regardless, so everyone needs to be careful. Have a good day. Polypmaster 14:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed that MD11Driver made a number of edits recently that do not have any references, and are most likely insider information. On top of that, they are poorly worded with a number of run-on sentences. While insider sources are not unacceptable, without a reference to the source the information is essentially useless in an encyclopedia. I am too busy to work on these edits, but the options are:
a) Revert them until sources for the information are found.
b) Clean up the text, remove/edit any biased text, and add sources.
Until this is done, the article's information is questionable at best. No offense to MD11Driver, I appreciate your additions, but as Wikipedia is in encyclopedia format and is heavily scrutinized, all attempts must be made to provide clear, concise, accurate, unbiased information to its readers.
Polypmaster 11:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I have a question. Does anyone know the exact year when Skybus was founded? Reading the Skybus Airlines article last summer, it said that the airline was founded in 2006. Reading the article today, it said that the airline is founded in 2004. I wonder which one is more correct. NHRHS2010 talk 05:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I recenty flew round trip on Skybus to Punta Gorda, and I did not see any advertisements on the interior of either aircraft. I flew down on the Capital One sponsored plane, and flew back on the "Spirit of Columbus" aircraft. Neither plane contained ANY interior advertisements (excluding the in-flight shopping magazine). The "increasing revenue" section may need to be edited to tell that only part of skybus's fleet contains interior advertisements, or that interior advertising is something that will be incorporated on future skybus aircraft as a means of increasing revenue.
User:70.60.16.198 6:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
It looks like the $10 fares are a thing of the past. If you goto their website the cheapest fares start at $35 each way and on some weekends it is $55. This even applies to flights from new airports. I have not updated the article, because I cannot find an article confirming the fare increase. 22.24z 10 Jan 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.104.27.5 ( talk) 22:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Pleae fix the Average Captains pay....it is so far off. Average Cpt pay is about 70K IF YOU WORK EXTRA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.153.165.141 ( talk) 14:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
This is listed at the end, can anyone explain what it is? Thanks! 140.180.166.176 ( talk) 19:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Does SX have any focus cities? Could Portsmouth NH count as one? 68.38.85.192 ( talk) 20:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
in case article needs it:
Skybus Announcement
Skybus Airlines will cease all operations effective Saturday, April 5.
Skybus struggled to overcome the combination of rising jet fuel costs and a slowing economic environment. These two issues proved to be insurmountable for a new carrier.
We deeply regret the impact this decision will have on our employees and their families, customers, vendors, suppliers, airport officials and others in the cities in which we have operated. Our financial condition is such that our Board of Directors felt it had no choice but to cease operations.
Passengers holding reservations for Skybus flights scheduled to depart on or after Saturday, April 5, 2008 should contact their credit card companies to arrange to apply for a refund. More information for customers and others will be made available on the Skybus web site (www.skybus.com) as it becomes available.
All flights for Friday, April 4 will be completed. Passengers holding reservations on flights for Friday, April 4 should check in for their flight at a Skybus kiosk at the airport instead of the Skybus website. - Obrez ( talk) 21:56, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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