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Got any images newer than 1908? Astronaut ( talk) 10:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Was Senator Mitchell from here or was it another nearby town? Auchansa ( talk) 01:09, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Semi-ed one week due to recent disruption and possible socking. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 19:10, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Magnolia677, I moved the mascot information to the school district to retain it after blanking. This matter thrust the town of Skowhegan into national news, it would seem that it should at the very least be mentioned on the Skowhegan page. Having nothing to do with the school district, citizens of Skowhegan continue to be reported on in local, state and regional news sources, refusing to let go of the former mascot regardless of state legislation. This has not been an issue in other towns in the district. Indigenous girl ( talk) 19:10, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
I believe it should be on the pages for both the town and the board. As this is the mascot for a specific school, it isn't necessarily any more relevant for the board than the town. As well I don't believe it should be shunted onto an obscure stub article for a school district. From the sources it sounds like there was considerable community involvement in this debate and that deserves recognition. At the very least I think it is critically important for it to be referenced in the town article even if the primary text on it is under the board article, if length is a concern. Like it or not, articles on smaller towns are a one stop shop for what is going on in the town and it feels dishonest to exclude what seems like an important part of recent local history. Julius177 ( talk) 20:10, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
A comment was requesprf on WPSCHOOLS. : Skowhegan Area High School is red link, and there is no Skowhegan, Maine#Skowhegan Area High School section. Until they have been written we have a case of WP:UNDUE and the whole thing is off-focus. As for the text it seems to be out of scope WP:NOTNEWSPAPER ClemRutter ( talk) 22:05, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
The Skowhegan Indians was the last racially based mascot in the state. It was changed just prior to state legislation being passed banning them. Prior to the ban, some residents of the town were working together to try and get the change over turned. This made the NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/us/native-american-sports-logos.html, USNews https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/maine/articles/2019-03-08/skowhegan-votes-to-retire-indians-nickname-after-debate, the Washington Post (in an opinion piece) https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/schools-in-2-states-just-retired-native-american-mascots-the-dc-nfl-team-should-take-note/2019/08/17/9368827a-8c53-11e9-adf3-f70f78c156e8_story.html, CNN https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/17/us/maine-bans-native-american-mascots/index.html, and regional news outlets. I would be happy to show more sources with regard to this being more than a local or regional issue. Indigenous girl ( talk) 00:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Policy clearly supports inclusion here. It is well-sourced, and was stable aside from blocked vandals. An RfC would be fine, but policy supports it staying on the stable, pre-blanking version in the meantime. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 00:31, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
References
On May 16, 2019 Maine became the first state in the country to ban the use of Native American mascots, permanently putting an end to the issue. [1] [2] [3]
References
- ^ Acquisto, Alex (May 16, 2019). "Mills signs bill to make Maine the first state to ban Native American school mascots". Bangor Daily News. Retrieved 18 July 2019.
- ^ Williams, David (May 17, 2019). "Maine to become first state to ban Native American mascots in public schools". CNN. Retrieved 18 July 2019.
- ^ Hauser, Christine (May 22, 2019). "Maine Just Banned Native American Mascots. It's a Movement That's Inching Forward". New York Times. Retrieved 26 November 2019.
I came across this discussion from a notice at WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America. It seems appropriate to include a paragraph or two on the event here; the entire section that was recently added is far too detailed for an encyclopedia article. A brief high-level summary would better serve the reader. The section is also written almost entirely from one perspective. Although it's clear who is "on the right side of history" here, it seems to be written entirely from the "anti-mascot" side and leaves out a large part of the story. – dlthewave ☎ 16:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
I stumbled across Native American mascot laws and regulations#Maine, which could be a useful example or wikilink. The MSAD 54 is currently a stub. Developing that article to the point where a couple sentences about the mascot isn't WP:UNDUE could be a constructive solution that improves the encyclopedia. -- Hebisddave ( talk) 15:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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Got any images newer than 1908? Astronaut ( talk) 10:13, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Was Senator Mitchell from here or was it another nearby town? Auchansa ( talk) 01:09, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Semi-ed one week due to recent disruption and possible socking. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 19:10, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Magnolia677, I moved the mascot information to the school district to retain it after blanking. This matter thrust the town of Skowhegan into national news, it would seem that it should at the very least be mentioned on the Skowhegan page. Having nothing to do with the school district, citizens of Skowhegan continue to be reported on in local, state and regional news sources, refusing to let go of the former mascot regardless of state legislation. This has not been an issue in other towns in the district. Indigenous girl ( talk) 19:10, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
I believe it should be on the pages for both the town and the board. As this is the mascot for a specific school, it isn't necessarily any more relevant for the board than the town. As well I don't believe it should be shunted onto an obscure stub article for a school district. From the sources it sounds like there was considerable community involvement in this debate and that deserves recognition. At the very least I think it is critically important for it to be referenced in the town article even if the primary text on it is under the board article, if length is a concern. Like it or not, articles on smaller towns are a one stop shop for what is going on in the town and it feels dishonest to exclude what seems like an important part of recent local history. Julius177 ( talk) 20:10, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
A comment was requesprf on WPSCHOOLS. : Skowhegan Area High School is red link, and there is no Skowhegan, Maine#Skowhegan Area High School section. Until they have been written we have a case of WP:UNDUE and the whole thing is off-focus. As for the text it seems to be out of scope WP:NOTNEWSPAPER ClemRutter ( talk) 22:05, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
The Skowhegan Indians was the last racially based mascot in the state. It was changed just prior to state legislation being passed banning them. Prior to the ban, some residents of the town were working together to try and get the change over turned. This made the NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/us/native-american-sports-logos.html, USNews https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/maine/articles/2019-03-08/skowhegan-votes-to-retire-indians-nickname-after-debate, the Washington Post (in an opinion piece) https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/schools-in-2-states-just-retired-native-american-mascots-the-dc-nfl-team-should-take-note/2019/08/17/9368827a-8c53-11e9-adf3-f70f78c156e8_story.html, CNN https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/17/us/maine-bans-native-american-mascots/index.html, and regional news outlets. I would be happy to show more sources with regard to this being more than a local or regional issue. Indigenous girl ( talk) 00:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Policy clearly supports inclusion here. It is well-sourced, and was stable aside from blocked vandals. An RfC would be fine, but policy supports it staying on the stable, pre-blanking version in the meantime. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 00:31, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
References
On May 16, 2019 Maine became the first state in the country to ban the use of Native American mascots, permanently putting an end to the issue. [1] [2] [3]
References
- ^ Acquisto, Alex (May 16, 2019). "Mills signs bill to make Maine the first state to ban Native American school mascots". Bangor Daily News. Retrieved 18 July 2019.
- ^ Williams, David (May 17, 2019). "Maine to become first state to ban Native American mascots in public schools". CNN. Retrieved 18 July 2019.
- ^ Hauser, Christine (May 22, 2019). "Maine Just Banned Native American Mascots. It's a Movement That's Inching Forward". New York Times. Retrieved 26 November 2019.
I came across this discussion from a notice at WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America. It seems appropriate to include a paragraph or two on the event here; the entire section that was recently added is far too detailed for an encyclopedia article. A brief high-level summary would better serve the reader. The section is also written almost entirely from one perspective. Although it's clear who is "on the right side of history" here, it seems to be written entirely from the "anti-mascot" side and leaves out a large part of the story. – dlthewave ☎ 16:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
I stumbled across Native American mascot laws and regulations#Maine, which could be a useful example or wikilink. The MSAD 54 is currently a stub. Developing that article to the point where a couple sentences about the mascot isn't WP:UNDUE could be a constructive solution that improves the encyclopedia. -- Hebisddave ( talk) 15:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)