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my understanding is that the Skokomish and other Twana peoples were NOT along the puget sound and were all around hood canal. the edge between the puget and hood canal watersheds seems to be the language and cultural boarder.
A fellow contributor to the Chinook Jargon article posted a source for the Skokomish name I hadn't heard before: that it's composed of skookum + -ish - meaning "brave/strong/stalwart people". I'd always thought that the name came from their relocation to the Skokomish River, which as far as I understand it is the remaining length of the Snohomish River after it meets the Skykomish River. Don't know my Washington history/name-source stuff to know any better; the -ish ending is vaguely Salishan for "people" (usually -mx, -mc or ??) but I can't think of any other Chinookisms that have this ending. Comments? Skookum1 00:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC) *The ending is "-mish" for "people" - no? /info/en/?search=Skokomish_River
And here is the Skokomish Nation's official website: http://www.skokomish.org/
That was my confusion; Snoqualmie + Skykomish = Snohomish River, for its last few miles before the sea; the confluence is somewhere southeast of Everett, between there and Snohomish I think. And I'll go with your attestion; you can't cite original research, but I can cite you (being a chinook studies kinda guy, i.e. not credentialed but familiar enough to go OK, there's a Puget Sound usage/adaptaton that's not recorded in Shaw/Gibbs. Skookum1 03:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
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Skokomish people →
Skokomish – target is dab page
created with two items by 67.75.229.103 on Sept 12 2003. People article began as
Skokomish (tribe), then
moved to "Skokomish tribe" by Kwami on Dec 13 2010, then reverted
by him as he'd missed talkpages, then
reverted to "Skokomish tribe" by him on the same date, then
moved to current title by Uysvdi on Dec 13 2013 citing "renaming to disambiguate ethnic group article from federally recognized Skokomish Indian Tribe)" which is an invalid dab argument per
WP:UNDAB.
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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Skokomish people/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
introductory text, needs infobox, map of Twana/Skokomish territory, more content, refs. Needs separate language page, although examples of Twana are few and far between. Comment that I hadn't heard before re Skokomish - this name is supposedly from the Chinook Jargon skookum + ish, i.e. "brave/strong people" -- Skookum1 (10 May 06) |
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my understanding is that the Skokomish and other Twana peoples were NOT along the puget sound and were all around hood canal. the edge between the puget and hood canal watersheds seems to be the language and cultural boarder.
A fellow contributor to the Chinook Jargon article posted a source for the Skokomish name I hadn't heard before: that it's composed of skookum + -ish - meaning "brave/strong/stalwart people". I'd always thought that the name came from their relocation to the Skokomish River, which as far as I understand it is the remaining length of the Snohomish River after it meets the Skykomish River. Don't know my Washington history/name-source stuff to know any better; the -ish ending is vaguely Salishan for "people" (usually -mx, -mc or ??) but I can't think of any other Chinookisms that have this ending. Comments? Skookum1 00:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC) *The ending is "-mish" for "people" - no? /info/en/?search=Skokomish_River
And here is the Skokomish Nation's official website: http://www.skokomish.org/
That was my confusion; Snoqualmie + Skykomish = Snohomish River, for its last few miles before the sea; the confluence is somewhere southeast of Everett, between there and Snohomish I think. And I'll go with your attestion; you can't cite original research, but I can cite you (being a chinook studies kinda guy, i.e. not credentialed but familiar enough to go OK, there's a Puget Sound usage/adaptaton that's not recorded in Shaw/Gibbs. Skookum1 03:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
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The argument by BD2412 is unsupported by any policy, while CambridgeBayWeather's invocation of
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes) misrepresents that guideline; it lists several possibilities for titles of articles for such groups of people, and notes that there are "several acceptable naming conventions".
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BrownHairedGirl
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17:39, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Skokomish people →
Skokomish – target is dab page
created with two items by 67.75.229.103 on Sept 12 2003. People article began as
Skokomish (tribe), then
moved to "Skokomish tribe" by Kwami on Dec 13 2010, then reverted
by him as he'd missed talkpages, then
reverted to "Skokomish tribe" by him on the same date, then
moved to current title by Uysvdi on Dec 13 2013 citing "renaming to disambiguate ethnic group article from federally recognized Skokomish Indian Tribe)" which is an invalid dab argument per
WP:UNDAB.
Skookum1 (
talk)
07:10, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Skokomish people/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
introductory text, needs infobox, map of Twana/Skokomish territory, more content, refs. Needs separate language page, although examples of Twana are few and far between. Comment that I hadn't heard before re Skokomish - this name is supposedly from the Chinook Jargon skookum + ish, i.e. "brave/strong people" -- Skookum1 (10 May 06) |
Substituted at 05:16, 13 May 2016 (UTC)