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In various books about Disney's Haunted Mansion, it is mentioned that the band Skinny Puppy took their name from the night watchman's malnourished dog seen during the graveyard sequence of the popular attraction. Should this information be added to the article? 207.45.43.68 ( talk) 15:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
People seem to be getting confused over them...
It should be:
The 'series' of Back and Forth series Two's name refers to the fact its the second series of the Back and Forth demo tape. The 'volumes' were later created as the idea of volumes of old unreleased material (5 being the exception).
The Back and Forth albums are seperated because of that, Back and Forth being the original demo tape, 2 being an expanded re-release and then the others being their own albums.
Truely one of the greatest industrial bands ever, and one of the most underrated Canadian bands. Paragraph 2 needs some work.
Quick question . . . why is industrial in quotes at the beginning of this article? Is it really necessary? Eldamorie 01:54, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with the above question. We shouldn't be afraid to use the word industrial. Besides, Skinny Puppy helped define the genre post Throbbing Gristle. Iluvchineselit 18:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-- I strongly disagree. Skinny Puppy is not an industrial band. In America, it appears to be a common mistake to apply the name "industrial" to any kind of dark electronic music, even to bands like VNV Nation which is completely wrong. Right now under "genre" it says Industrial / Alternative. I would rather it said Electronic, Experimental, Alternative. To me, bands like SPK and Throbbing Gristle are industrial bands, but Skinny Puppy is too dance-y and mainstream to fit in that category.
In an older interview, Ogre described the music of Skinny Puppy as electro-acoustic. He didn't use the term Industrial. There was no Industrial movement in North America. The movement in USA and Canada started with the post-industrial movement in the early 80s. It was a Industrial-Goth-Punk mixture, the same with FLA and Numb. (this is why Rivetheads are northamerican phenomenon). -- Diluvien 20:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I think they should just get called Alternative electronic or at most ebm too many people will disagree if we keep labeling them industrial. --IndusterX242 —Preceding unsigned comment added by IndusterX242 ( talk • contribs) 14:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
lolwut that's not what Industrial is at all. Even the Industrial article of Wikipedia is better than that. Throbbing Gristle, SPK, some Einstürzende Neubauten, and some Cabaret Voltaire. Groups such as those can be considered Industrial. Skinny Puppy took a lot of influence from the genre, but only Too Dark Part and Last Rights contain any songs that are even close to Industrial. The rest of their music is purely Post-Industrial. If you really want to have "Industrial" in the genre list for the band, I suppose that isn't the worst thing in the world, as some of their music is heavily influenced by the genre... but the band's albums' articles ALL have Industrial in them. That is not acceptable at all. Listen to Mythmaker or The Greater Wrong of the Right and try to tell me that's Industrial. If you do, you have no idea what you're talking about. The problem is, everybody thinks that the phrase "Post-Industrial" is some kind of insult, and they don't let anybody classify their bands in that group. I'm not saying Skinny Puppy isn't a good band. I like a lot of their songs, and I even own a few of their albums, but they are NOT and Industrial band. 72.94.149.141 ( talk) 15:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
One last thing: I went through a few music sites to see what Skinny Puppy is considered.
Everywhere I go, they say Industrial or include Industrial. The only groups that appear to ever disagree are those in discussion groups. So since wikipedia does not accept original research, forum discussions, and any other refutable information I say we cut the Post-Industrial (for the points I made before). By including EBM and Industrial together, we are denoting that it is a form of Post-Industrial. I have a question though: Would we want to include just gothic as well? Not gothic rock, or metal, just gothic. I'm not sure where I stand on that one. Xe7al ( talk) 04:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Since someone just took out EBM, I realized that was definitely wrong (Skinny Puppy is not music you can dance to). So I pinned Electro-Industrial on their genres to make both sides to this argument happy (or at least less aggravated). The wiki for Electro-industrial definitely describes SP. Xe7al ( talk) 19:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Electro and Post industrial Hit the nail of the Head this Genres are the Really Core Sound of skinny puppy - combined with Guitar Elements and since 2004 Elements from Experimental Electronic Music styles - Someone call those Elemente Electronica or IDM so i Think Electro Industrial and Post industrial should be the Genres which are listed Industrial Rock is Useless because its a Post industrial Genre I know Electro industrial too but they Are One of the Most influenced Bands from that Genre.
And to Call the Early Works synth Pop is far away from the truth the remission Sound was close to Electro Wave and very influenced by Portion Control we should delete it Post Punk is far away from the truth too they Were influenced by Post Punk Bands - and yes they use Guitar Elements But it Never was Post Punk those should be deleted too — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brosi90 ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Ogre said in an Interview from June 2013 following
" There’s a very military side to industrial music and we are far more on the psychedelic side. There’s a regimented side to industrial music. When everything gets too uniform and a song layout is too regimented..... i want to shoot myself,"
That shows us that they see their music and themselves as a non military and more psycedelic version of industrial or Post Industrial Music .. i think this is a good label for their music--
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That's not a very great picture of Skinny Puppy..
Dwayne also had several side projects outside of Skinny Puppy. The more notable among them ADUCK and a side project with Phil "Philth" Western of plateaU.
Wow... that is a REALLY bad picture of skinny puppy... how about we add one circa mid 80's???
Not a HORRIBLE picture but DEFINITELY underwhelming for how visual this band is. Also, it doesn't even show Dwayne or cEvin, who are just as if not more responsible for the band.
first of all please use headings when commenting, with apologies to the original authors, I added them here to make for an easier read. I reworked the years active part to reflect that Skinny Puppy disbanded in '95, reunited briefly for Dresden, and then later reunited (i used the release date of the underworld (Soundtrack) for the 2003 date). I thought the opening paragraph was a little too small so I added a NIN reference there, please remove it if you can think of something better to add to that paragraph. Naufana 05:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Personally I feel the tracklistings should be removed from the Collections information. It's more appropriate to have tracklistings on the pages for the Collections themselves and not in the main article. None of the rest of the releases have them. heavensblade23 00:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I popped off a template for Skinny Puppy ({{Skinny Puppy}}) and linked it around. Naufana : talk 06:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
who took out the info about the new album? i glanced through the page's history, and all i came across concerning that info was that someone stated that they had "moved it from the greater wrong... section, and there was a section for the new album"... really? where? - (the previous unsigned comment was posted by User:65.43.217.207)
Recently I've been playing around with an article devoted to all of the various Skinny Puppy side-projects and guest appearances. Thus far I've only listed the side-projects along with the various members of each group. The page in progress can be found on my sandbox, here. If anyone wants to edit it while it's still in progress, please do. I'd like to create a brief description of each band's style and discog (assuming they do not already have a wiki article). If anyone can help me with a list of guest appearances please either edit the sanbox or let me know on my talk page. Thanks. Naufana : talk 22:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I just recently heard "Worlock" for the 1st time, and I'm a bit surprised. My reason is, earlier, I'd had listened to the same song, under the name of Trent Reznor's "tapeworm" project, called "Warlock (ft. Marilyn Manson)" Aside from feeling like an idiot, I'm a bit confused. Is that remix actually tapeworm, or someone else? I assume so because the background vocals DO sound like Maynard James Keenan, who's supposed to be a collaborator... But seeing how wrong I was the 1st time, I have to make sure.
-- you'd listened to the song illegally downloaded as an mp3, the remix is on the album remix dys temper by skinny puppy and has nothing to do with nine inch nails or trent reznor or marilyn manson or tapeworm or maynard james keenan.
Heqs, I noticed you recently made a change to the article that mentions Bill Leeb was "never listed as a member in album liner notes". I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain I remember seeing Wilhelm Schroeder credited in the liner notes for Bites. Unfortunately the CD case is currently hundreds of miles away at my parents' house, so I can't check the precise wording at the moment. Might be something to look into.
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67.43.92.191 15:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Leeb is listed under "guest artists" in the Bites liner notes (I am looking at them right now). He is credited for parts on one track ("The Choke") on the original LP and only a handful of other tracks. To the best of my knowledge he was never listed as a member in any release. He is often referred to as having been a member, largely because he did tour with the band in 1985, and appeared as the third member in certain promotional materials from that era. This is why I classify him as a guest musician (one of a few that have appeared on multiple releases) and a live member. heqs ·:. 10:02, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I in the "Styles and Themes" section, I would like to suggest putting two more Skinny Puppy influences: Kraftwerk [2] and Public Image Ltd [3]. Musicaindustrial 13:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Reference 21 is now a dead link. I did a little searching around and can't find the interview from Spin magazine or any interview during 1996. Xe7al ( talk) 08:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
seriously, the things been out for awhile now, why hasn't anyone created an article for it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.43.216.72 ( talk) 22:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Why in HELL are they listed as being Goth Rock? They have nothing to do with Goth Rock. The Industrial label was bad enough, but this is just getting stupid. I'm not normally one to edit Wikipedia articles-- or even to use Wikipedia often-- but I couldn't believe it when I saw this. 72.94.149.141 ( talk) 15:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I was reading the article on goth rock which said "The blending of goth and 'industrial' music scenes and subcultures can be heard in the music of industrial bands such as Skinny Puppy" so I added it to the genres. Ash Loomis ( talk) 16:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
There currently is no mention of their appearance in the Doom Generation. A minor point, but may be of interest. 66.191.19.217 ( talk) 22:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I reverted the last few edits regarding the genre section. Skinny Puppy has a totally different style from Glitch/Glitchcore. Furthermore, even the Glitchcore page needs serious work right now in regard to citing sources. Also, while Skinny Puppy has taken minor influence from IDM music (as this article does point out), it does not make Skinny Puppy an IDM group. Electronica is probably the farthest I would go. Unless we can find some real sources that point out that Skinny Puppy is either genre (IDM or Glitch/Glitchcore), I would suggest leaving it off of the list. Their more recent work is further from the styles of Glitch/Glitchcore, and that was a genre that was started in the 90s. Xe7al ( talk) 09:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey i totally agree with you
They arent a IDM or a Glitch band or else.. They only thing is that they use some elements of those experimental electronic music genres like Glitch IDM Breakbeat Drum n Bass since 2004 (TGWOTR) Maybe this is the Reason why those Genres are listed on the SP Discography - for example on the Weapon or handover wiki site.. On the German SP Wiki they are listed as Post Industrial / Electronica.. You can call and label them as experimental because they use so many differend elements of experimental electronic music Yeah their sound is purely Post Industrial / Electro Industrial ( Offshot) with some Guitar Elements since the mid 80s ( Dig It, Testure) BTW Guitars are a part of the Electro Industrial Genre through SP many Electro Industrial Bands of the 90s added Guitars to their Sound.. Many of them are influenced from SP, thats true.
The Genre on the Wiki site should be Post Industrial, Electro Industrial. Electro Industrial is a offshot and a Genre which was influenced by Skinny Puppy .Industrial Rock/Metal is useless too because this is just another Post Industrial Sub Genre The Elements of those experimental electronic sounds arent a reason for adding them to the "Main Gerne list"
BTW Synth Pop (early) is far away from the truth, too.. Remission is close to Electro Wave but im sure SP never done Synth pop.. melodic based tracks from them arent a reason for calling them Synth Pop. Remission and other early releases are similar to some Portion Control Tracks.. Btw PC was a huge influence for SP.-- Brosi90 ( talk) 18:27, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
They also use elements of Industrial Metal (which very much is a separate genre) and Dark Ambient (again this is not just a "post industrial" style - otherwise Lustmored etc would have to be described as post-industrial only), that is not a reason to change their genre on the main article. Your arguments have no citations and edits were made without debate or consensus.
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To match the Industrial Portal, the importance for the WikiProject Canada should also be increased. If "The group is widely considered the founders of the electro-industrial subgenre.[1]", I believe this article should be rated the same in the WikiProject Canadian music group. If I am wrong, there are only 2 articles there now with this rating and somone will see it. Argolin ( talk) 12:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: – MuZemike 22:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Failed – I'm sorry, but I cannot pass this for GA at this time due to large amounts of content in the article that is completely unsourced, which includes the entire "Back and Forth" and "Other projects" sections and most of the "Remission – Cleanse Fold and Manipulate", "Too Dark Park – Last Rights", "The Process – breakup" and "Dresden reunion – Mythmaker" sections. There are also a lot of claims being sourced via primary sources, which also is not good. This needs significant work to meet #2 on the WP:GACR, and I don't think placing it on hold will help much. Here's what you need to do to bring the article up to GA standard:
After that is all done, and the I's are dotted and T's crossed, feel free to re-nominate for GA. Sorry, – MuZemike 22:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I think I remember reading somewhere that during their early tours, SP donated a percentage of the tour revenue to animal rights charities. Anyone able to confirm or deny this? Canine virtuoso ( talk) 01:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey Joel I disagree with you that Skinny Puppy is Post Industrial. They were one of the first Industrial bands, so how can they be 'post-' something they created!?!??!? Anyhow I just wanted to make sure you didn't change it back and I will keep an eye on this article, heheheeh JEFF SCHMIDT 174.30.20.19 ( talk) 16:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I was looking for a place to point out the contradiction that this band is an early pioneer of industrial music, so it is a bit of a contradiction to then label them post-industrial. They may have one post industrial album in "The Process", but otherwise they were right there at the start. That's not very "post" now is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.40.140.93 ( talk) 03:56, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
In the current version of the article, there is a citation and statement for the release day of In Solvent See in February 2011. However, a look on Amazon for the US list no releases of this album for any time. Canada and Germany (the former the home to Skinny Puppy, the latter where the publishing company exists) lists a "TBA" with no art or listings. Canada says it's to be released in May 2011. I do believe that this article's release date for In Solvent See should be considered wrong and updated, or at least listed as no confirmed release date. -- Iwriteforme ( talk) 08:19, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I agree that it has a little matter to write in article about guest musicians. But here is no information about years of "being in band" and "instruments played by" in former members section. As Iremember all band members contributed more than one instrument. Also it's not clear about live musicians. There was inly Justin Bennet as live musician? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.132.61.205 ( talk) 12:35, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
the Link to Dave The Rave Ogilvie's page, in the first section of the article, incorrectly routes to another similarly named artist 24.27.14.98 ( talk) 04:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Can you Tell me how you can call the Music style of skinny puppy After the Réunion ? Is it still Electro industrial ? Or is skinny puppy just a Electronica band which combined Several Elements of Differend Experimental Electronic Music styles knows as Electronica or IDM ? For me its a mixture of Electro Industrial and modern experimental Electronic sounds known as Electronica or IDM -- Brosi90 ( talk) 15:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)Thanks for your help
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In various books about Disney's Haunted Mansion, it is mentioned that the band Skinny Puppy took their name from the night watchman's malnourished dog seen during the graveyard sequence of the popular attraction. Should this information be added to the article? 207.45.43.68 ( talk) 15:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
People seem to be getting confused over them...
It should be:
The 'series' of Back and Forth series Two's name refers to the fact its the second series of the Back and Forth demo tape. The 'volumes' were later created as the idea of volumes of old unreleased material (5 being the exception).
The Back and Forth albums are seperated because of that, Back and Forth being the original demo tape, 2 being an expanded re-release and then the others being their own albums.
Truely one of the greatest industrial bands ever, and one of the most underrated Canadian bands. Paragraph 2 needs some work.
Quick question . . . why is industrial in quotes at the beginning of this article? Is it really necessary? Eldamorie 01:54, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with the above question. We shouldn't be afraid to use the word industrial. Besides, Skinny Puppy helped define the genre post Throbbing Gristle. Iluvchineselit 18:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
-- I strongly disagree. Skinny Puppy is not an industrial band. In America, it appears to be a common mistake to apply the name "industrial" to any kind of dark electronic music, even to bands like VNV Nation which is completely wrong. Right now under "genre" it says Industrial / Alternative. I would rather it said Electronic, Experimental, Alternative. To me, bands like SPK and Throbbing Gristle are industrial bands, but Skinny Puppy is too dance-y and mainstream to fit in that category.
In an older interview, Ogre described the music of Skinny Puppy as electro-acoustic. He didn't use the term Industrial. There was no Industrial movement in North America. The movement in USA and Canada started with the post-industrial movement in the early 80s. It was a Industrial-Goth-Punk mixture, the same with FLA and Numb. (this is why Rivetheads are northamerican phenomenon). -- Diluvien 20:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I think they should just get called Alternative electronic or at most ebm too many people will disagree if we keep labeling them industrial. --IndusterX242 —Preceding unsigned comment added by IndusterX242 ( talk • contribs) 14:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
lolwut that's not what Industrial is at all. Even the Industrial article of Wikipedia is better than that. Throbbing Gristle, SPK, some Einstürzende Neubauten, and some Cabaret Voltaire. Groups such as those can be considered Industrial. Skinny Puppy took a lot of influence from the genre, but only Too Dark Part and Last Rights contain any songs that are even close to Industrial. The rest of their music is purely Post-Industrial. If you really want to have "Industrial" in the genre list for the band, I suppose that isn't the worst thing in the world, as some of their music is heavily influenced by the genre... but the band's albums' articles ALL have Industrial in them. That is not acceptable at all. Listen to Mythmaker or The Greater Wrong of the Right and try to tell me that's Industrial. If you do, you have no idea what you're talking about. The problem is, everybody thinks that the phrase "Post-Industrial" is some kind of insult, and they don't let anybody classify their bands in that group. I'm not saying Skinny Puppy isn't a good band. I like a lot of their songs, and I even own a few of their albums, but they are NOT and Industrial band. 72.94.149.141 ( talk) 15:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
One last thing: I went through a few music sites to see what Skinny Puppy is considered.
Everywhere I go, they say Industrial or include Industrial. The only groups that appear to ever disagree are those in discussion groups. So since wikipedia does not accept original research, forum discussions, and any other refutable information I say we cut the Post-Industrial (for the points I made before). By including EBM and Industrial together, we are denoting that it is a form of Post-Industrial. I have a question though: Would we want to include just gothic as well? Not gothic rock, or metal, just gothic. I'm not sure where I stand on that one. Xe7al ( talk) 04:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Since someone just took out EBM, I realized that was definitely wrong (Skinny Puppy is not music you can dance to). So I pinned Electro-Industrial on their genres to make both sides to this argument happy (or at least less aggravated). The wiki for Electro-industrial definitely describes SP. Xe7al ( talk) 19:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Electro and Post industrial Hit the nail of the Head this Genres are the Really Core Sound of skinny puppy - combined with Guitar Elements and since 2004 Elements from Experimental Electronic Music styles - Someone call those Elemente Electronica or IDM so i Think Electro Industrial and Post industrial should be the Genres which are listed Industrial Rock is Useless because its a Post industrial Genre I know Electro industrial too but they Are One of the Most influenced Bands from that Genre.
And to Call the Early Works synth Pop is far away from the truth the remission Sound was close to Electro Wave and very influenced by Portion Control we should delete it Post Punk is far away from the truth too they Were influenced by Post Punk Bands - and yes they use Guitar Elements But it Never was Post Punk those should be deleted too — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brosi90 ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Ogre said in an Interview from June 2013 following
" There’s a very military side to industrial music and we are far more on the psychedelic side. There’s a regimented side to industrial music. When everything gets too uniform and a song layout is too regimented..... i want to shoot myself,"
That shows us that they see their music and themselves as a non military and more psycedelic version of industrial or Post Industrial Music .. i think this is a good label for their music--
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That's not a very great picture of Skinny Puppy..
Dwayne also had several side projects outside of Skinny Puppy. The more notable among them ADUCK and a side project with Phil "Philth" Western of plateaU.
Wow... that is a REALLY bad picture of skinny puppy... how about we add one circa mid 80's???
Not a HORRIBLE picture but DEFINITELY underwhelming for how visual this band is. Also, it doesn't even show Dwayne or cEvin, who are just as if not more responsible for the band.
first of all please use headings when commenting, with apologies to the original authors, I added them here to make for an easier read. I reworked the years active part to reflect that Skinny Puppy disbanded in '95, reunited briefly for Dresden, and then later reunited (i used the release date of the underworld (Soundtrack) for the 2003 date). I thought the opening paragraph was a little too small so I added a NIN reference there, please remove it if you can think of something better to add to that paragraph. Naufana 05:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Personally I feel the tracklistings should be removed from the Collections information. It's more appropriate to have tracklistings on the pages for the Collections themselves and not in the main article. None of the rest of the releases have them. heavensblade23 00:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I popped off a template for Skinny Puppy ({{Skinny Puppy}}) and linked it around. Naufana : talk 06:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
who took out the info about the new album? i glanced through the page's history, and all i came across concerning that info was that someone stated that they had "moved it from the greater wrong... section, and there was a section for the new album"... really? where? - (the previous unsigned comment was posted by User:65.43.217.207)
Recently I've been playing around with an article devoted to all of the various Skinny Puppy side-projects and guest appearances. Thus far I've only listed the side-projects along with the various members of each group. The page in progress can be found on my sandbox, here. If anyone wants to edit it while it's still in progress, please do. I'd like to create a brief description of each band's style and discog (assuming they do not already have a wiki article). If anyone can help me with a list of guest appearances please either edit the sanbox or let me know on my talk page. Thanks. Naufana : talk 22:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I just recently heard "Worlock" for the 1st time, and I'm a bit surprised. My reason is, earlier, I'd had listened to the same song, under the name of Trent Reznor's "tapeworm" project, called "Warlock (ft. Marilyn Manson)" Aside from feeling like an idiot, I'm a bit confused. Is that remix actually tapeworm, or someone else? I assume so because the background vocals DO sound like Maynard James Keenan, who's supposed to be a collaborator... But seeing how wrong I was the 1st time, I have to make sure.
-- you'd listened to the song illegally downloaded as an mp3, the remix is on the album remix dys temper by skinny puppy and has nothing to do with nine inch nails or trent reznor or marilyn manson or tapeworm or maynard james keenan.
Heqs, I noticed you recently made a change to the article that mentions Bill Leeb was "never listed as a member in album liner notes". I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain I remember seeing Wilhelm Schroeder credited in the liner notes for Bites. Unfortunately the CD case is currently hundreds of miles away at my parents' house, so I can't check the precise wording at the moment. Might be something to look into.
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Leeb is listed under "guest artists" in the Bites liner notes (I am looking at them right now). He is credited for parts on one track ("The Choke") on the original LP and only a handful of other tracks. To the best of my knowledge he was never listed as a member in any release. He is often referred to as having been a member, largely because he did tour with the band in 1985, and appeared as the third member in certain promotional materials from that era. This is why I classify him as a guest musician (one of a few that have appeared on multiple releases) and a live member. heqs ·:. 10:02, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I in the "Styles and Themes" section, I would like to suggest putting two more Skinny Puppy influences: Kraftwerk [2] and Public Image Ltd [3]. Musicaindustrial 13:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Reference 21 is now a dead link. I did a little searching around and can't find the interview from Spin magazine or any interview during 1996. Xe7al ( talk) 08:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
seriously, the things been out for awhile now, why hasn't anyone created an article for it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.43.216.72 ( talk) 22:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Why in HELL are they listed as being Goth Rock? They have nothing to do with Goth Rock. The Industrial label was bad enough, but this is just getting stupid. I'm not normally one to edit Wikipedia articles-- or even to use Wikipedia often-- but I couldn't believe it when I saw this. 72.94.149.141 ( talk) 15:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I was reading the article on goth rock which said "The blending of goth and 'industrial' music scenes and subcultures can be heard in the music of industrial bands such as Skinny Puppy" so I added it to the genres. Ash Loomis ( talk) 16:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
There currently is no mention of their appearance in the Doom Generation. A minor point, but may be of interest. 66.191.19.217 ( talk) 22:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I reverted the last few edits regarding the genre section. Skinny Puppy has a totally different style from Glitch/Glitchcore. Furthermore, even the Glitchcore page needs serious work right now in regard to citing sources. Also, while Skinny Puppy has taken minor influence from IDM music (as this article does point out), it does not make Skinny Puppy an IDM group. Electronica is probably the farthest I would go. Unless we can find some real sources that point out that Skinny Puppy is either genre (IDM or Glitch/Glitchcore), I would suggest leaving it off of the list. Their more recent work is further from the styles of Glitch/Glitchcore, and that was a genre that was started in the 90s. Xe7al ( talk) 09:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey i totally agree with you
They arent a IDM or a Glitch band or else.. They only thing is that they use some elements of those experimental electronic music genres like Glitch IDM Breakbeat Drum n Bass since 2004 (TGWOTR) Maybe this is the Reason why those Genres are listed on the SP Discography - for example on the Weapon or handover wiki site.. On the German SP Wiki they are listed as Post Industrial / Electronica.. You can call and label them as experimental because they use so many differend elements of experimental electronic music Yeah their sound is purely Post Industrial / Electro Industrial ( Offshot) with some Guitar Elements since the mid 80s ( Dig It, Testure) BTW Guitars are a part of the Electro Industrial Genre through SP many Electro Industrial Bands of the 90s added Guitars to their Sound.. Many of them are influenced from SP, thats true.
The Genre on the Wiki site should be Post Industrial, Electro Industrial. Electro Industrial is a offshot and a Genre which was influenced by Skinny Puppy .Industrial Rock/Metal is useless too because this is just another Post Industrial Sub Genre The Elements of those experimental electronic sounds arent a reason for adding them to the "Main Gerne list"
BTW Synth Pop (early) is far away from the truth, too.. Remission is close to Electro Wave but im sure SP never done Synth pop.. melodic based tracks from them arent a reason for calling them Synth Pop. Remission and other early releases are similar to some Portion Control Tracks.. Btw PC was a huge influence for SP.-- Brosi90 ( talk) 18:27, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
They also use elements of Industrial Metal (which very much is a separate genre) and Dark Ambient (again this is not just a "post industrial" style - otherwise Lustmored etc would have to be described as post-industrial only), that is not a reason to change their genre on the main article. Your arguments have no citations and edits were made without debate or consensus.
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To match the Industrial Portal, the importance for the WikiProject Canada should also be increased. If "The group is widely considered the founders of the electro-industrial subgenre.[1]", I believe this article should be rated the same in the WikiProject Canadian music group. If I am wrong, there are only 2 articles there now with this rating and somone will see it. Argolin ( talk) 12:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: – MuZemike 22:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Failed – I'm sorry, but I cannot pass this for GA at this time due to large amounts of content in the article that is completely unsourced, which includes the entire "Back and Forth" and "Other projects" sections and most of the "Remission – Cleanse Fold and Manipulate", "Too Dark Park – Last Rights", "The Process – breakup" and "Dresden reunion – Mythmaker" sections. There are also a lot of claims being sourced via primary sources, which also is not good. This needs significant work to meet #2 on the WP:GACR, and I don't think placing it on hold will help much. Here's what you need to do to bring the article up to GA standard:
After that is all done, and the I's are dotted and T's crossed, feel free to re-nominate for GA. Sorry, – MuZemike 22:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I think I remember reading somewhere that during their early tours, SP donated a percentage of the tour revenue to animal rights charities. Anyone able to confirm or deny this? Canine virtuoso ( talk) 01:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey Joel I disagree with you that Skinny Puppy is Post Industrial. They were one of the first Industrial bands, so how can they be 'post-' something they created!?!??!? Anyhow I just wanted to make sure you didn't change it back and I will keep an eye on this article, heheheeh JEFF SCHMIDT 174.30.20.19 ( talk) 16:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I was looking for a place to point out the contradiction that this band is an early pioneer of industrial music, so it is a bit of a contradiction to then label them post-industrial. They may have one post industrial album in "The Process", but otherwise they were right there at the start. That's not very "post" now is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.40.140.93 ( talk) 03:56, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
In the current version of the article, there is a citation and statement for the release day of In Solvent See in February 2011. However, a look on Amazon for the US list no releases of this album for any time. Canada and Germany (the former the home to Skinny Puppy, the latter where the publishing company exists) lists a "TBA" with no art or listings. Canada says it's to be released in May 2011. I do believe that this article's release date for In Solvent See should be considered wrong and updated, or at least listed as no confirmed release date. -- Iwriteforme ( talk) 08:19, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I agree that it has a little matter to write in article about guest musicians. But here is no information about years of "being in band" and "instruments played by" in former members section. As Iremember all band members contributed more than one instrument. Also it's not clear about live musicians. There was inly Justin Bennet as live musician? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.132.61.205 ( talk) 12:35, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
the Link to Dave The Rave Ogilvie's page, in the first section of the article, incorrectly routes to another similarly named artist 24.27.14.98 ( talk) 04:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Can you Tell me how you can call the Music style of skinny puppy After the Réunion ? Is it still Electro industrial ? Or is skinny puppy just a Electronica band which combined Several Elements of Differend Experimental Electronic Music styles knows as Electronica or IDM ? For me its a mixture of Electro Industrial and modern experimental Electronic sounds known as Electronica or IDM -- Brosi90 ( talk) 15:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)Thanks for your help
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