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Silversmith, could you please explain why you redirected all the albums to here? There's no reason to do that. -- Mike Garcia | talk 22:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
The lead of this article explicitly states that the band hasn't mainstream success. So let's step back and ask basic questions.
If there aren't clear "Yes"es to these questions, then there is no debate, at least for me: simply from the point of logic and ease of use, all of the albums should be discussed in the context in which they will be sought and in which they illuminate the subject. I.e. they should be all in the band's article (or not exist at all). Is there any utility for a stub here and a stub for each record? Is there anything gained that way? Is there any loss that's prevented that way (assuming the redirects are valid)? If not, it's just a matter of logic, as well as preserving name space, to put them all together. Furthermore, if it comes down to asking for mediation, I'd have to say that right now it looks like those who want all the albums in one place are asking for discussion and reasoning on the talk page, while the person who does not is responding only with threats. This is not good manners and bodes ill. Geogre 20:42, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Moved from article space. Graywalls ( talk) 10:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
A few months later, Skin Yard contributed two songs to the now-renowned Deep Six compilation. This album, in addition to featuring the first commercial recordings of Malfunkshun, Melvins, Soundgarden and Skin Yard, was the first to showcase the early grunge sound. In 1987, Skin Yard released their self-titled debut album and their first single, "Gelatin Babies". Shortly after these releases, drummer Matt Cameron left the band to join Soundgarden, after which the band went through a series of drummers. He was initially replaced by Steve Wied, followed by Greg Gilmore; however both drummers lasted only two shows. In the fall, Jason Finn joined, but left after eight months for personal reasons. Scott McCullum filled the vacancy in May 1987 and he remained for two years, during which time the band recorded and released their second album, Hallowed Ground (1988). However, McCullum left and the band took a fourteen-month hiatus after a U.S. tour quoted as being "the tour from hell". Skin Yard returned in 1990 with their third album, Fist Sized Chunks, and their final drummer, Barrett Martin. In 1991, as grunge was breaking into the mainstream, the band released their fourth album, 1000 Smiling Knuckles. That same year, original bassist Daniel House left the band to spend more time with his family. He was replaced by Pat Pedersen, who stayed with the band for the recording of their final album, Inside the Eye, which featured the single "Undertow". After recording was completed, Skin Yard decided to disband, and the album was released shortly after. Post-breakup Prior to the breakup, Ben McMillan and Scott McCullum had started the band Gruntruck as a side-project, and continued to perform with the band after Skin Yard's demise. By the time Gruntruck disbanded, they had released two albums and one EP. Ben McMillan died from diabetes in 2008 at the age of 46. Pat Pedersen and Barrett Martin worked with Jack Endino on his solo album Endino's Earthworm. Endino also released two other solo albums, Angle of Attack and Permanent Fatal Error. Endino has largely switched from working as a performer to working as a music producer. He produced several albums by the grunge bands Soundgarden (a band including original Skin Yard drummer Matt Cameron) and Mudhoney; more recently he has produced albums by artists such as Hot Hot Heat and ZEKE. Daniel House, as owner and president of C/Z Records, continued to release records until 2001 when he released the Skin Yard rarities album, Start at the Top. Barrett Martin joined Screaming Trees and drummed on their albums Sweet Oblivion and Dust. Screaming Trees went on hiatus and finally broke up in 2000. Martin has also toured with R.E.M. During the late 1990s, Martin formed the grunge supergroup Mad Season with Alice in Chains singer Layne Staley, Pearl Jam lead guitarist Mike McCready, and bassist John Baker Saunders. Mad Season released one album before breaking up in 1999.
Jason Finn, who was replaced by McCullum in Skin Yard, went on to drum for the band Love Battery until 1995 and the band The Presidents of the United States of America until their breakup in 1998. The Presidents of the United States of America have since reunited.
This part was pulled from lede: Graywalls ( talk) 00:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
The group never gained a mainstream audience, but were an influence on several of their grunge contemporaries, including Soundgarden, Screaming Trees, and Green River.
Cosiderable direct editing in March 2007 by significantly connected person Special:Contributions/Danielhouse some of their which still remains Graywalls ( talk) 16:05, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Silversmith, could you please explain why you redirected all the albums to here? There's no reason to do that. -- Mike Garcia | talk 22:14, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
The lead of this article explicitly states that the band hasn't mainstream success. So let's step back and ask basic questions.
If there aren't clear "Yes"es to these questions, then there is no debate, at least for me: simply from the point of logic and ease of use, all of the albums should be discussed in the context in which they will be sought and in which they illuminate the subject. I.e. they should be all in the band's article (or not exist at all). Is there any utility for a stub here and a stub for each record? Is there anything gained that way? Is there any loss that's prevented that way (assuming the redirects are valid)? If not, it's just a matter of logic, as well as preserving name space, to put them all together. Furthermore, if it comes down to asking for mediation, I'd have to say that right now it looks like those who want all the albums in one place are asking for discussion and reasoning on the talk page, while the person who does not is responding only with threats. This is not good manners and bodes ill. Geogre 20:42, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Moved from article space. Graywalls ( talk) 10:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
A few months later, Skin Yard contributed two songs to the now-renowned Deep Six compilation. This album, in addition to featuring the first commercial recordings of Malfunkshun, Melvins, Soundgarden and Skin Yard, was the first to showcase the early grunge sound. In 1987, Skin Yard released their self-titled debut album and their first single, "Gelatin Babies". Shortly after these releases, drummer Matt Cameron left the band to join Soundgarden, after which the band went through a series of drummers. He was initially replaced by Steve Wied, followed by Greg Gilmore; however both drummers lasted only two shows. In the fall, Jason Finn joined, but left after eight months for personal reasons. Scott McCullum filled the vacancy in May 1987 and he remained for two years, during which time the band recorded and released their second album, Hallowed Ground (1988). However, McCullum left and the band took a fourteen-month hiatus after a U.S. tour quoted as being "the tour from hell". Skin Yard returned in 1990 with their third album, Fist Sized Chunks, and their final drummer, Barrett Martin. In 1991, as grunge was breaking into the mainstream, the band released their fourth album, 1000 Smiling Knuckles. That same year, original bassist Daniel House left the band to spend more time with his family. He was replaced by Pat Pedersen, who stayed with the band for the recording of their final album, Inside the Eye, which featured the single "Undertow". After recording was completed, Skin Yard decided to disband, and the album was released shortly after. Post-breakup Prior to the breakup, Ben McMillan and Scott McCullum had started the band Gruntruck as a side-project, and continued to perform with the band after Skin Yard's demise. By the time Gruntruck disbanded, they had released two albums and one EP. Ben McMillan died from diabetes in 2008 at the age of 46. Pat Pedersen and Barrett Martin worked with Jack Endino on his solo album Endino's Earthworm. Endino also released two other solo albums, Angle of Attack and Permanent Fatal Error. Endino has largely switched from working as a performer to working as a music producer. He produced several albums by the grunge bands Soundgarden (a band including original Skin Yard drummer Matt Cameron) and Mudhoney; more recently he has produced albums by artists such as Hot Hot Heat and ZEKE. Daniel House, as owner and president of C/Z Records, continued to release records until 2001 when he released the Skin Yard rarities album, Start at the Top. Barrett Martin joined Screaming Trees and drummed on their albums Sweet Oblivion and Dust. Screaming Trees went on hiatus and finally broke up in 2000. Martin has also toured with R.E.M. During the late 1990s, Martin formed the grunge supergroup Mad Season with Alice in Chains singer Layne Staley, Pearl Jam lead guitarist Mike McCready, and bassist John Baker Saunders. Mad Season released one album before breaking up in 1999.
Jason Finn, who was replaced by McCullum in Skin Yard, went on to drum for the band Love Battery until 1995 and the band The Presidents of the United States of America until their breakup in 1998. The Presidents of the United States of America have since reunited.
This part was pulled from lede: Graywalls ( talk) 00:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
The group never gained a mainstream audience, but were an influence on several of their grunge contemporaries, including Soundgarden, Screaming Trees, and Green River.
Cosiderable direct editing in March 2007 by significantly connected person Special:Contributions/Danielhouse some of their which still remains Graywalls ( talk) 16:05, 11 January 2023 (UTC)