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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Peter Fenton (guitarist) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Fenton (guitarist) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Carliertwo ( talk) 23:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
...Is that Siouxsie Sioux was the founder and leader. If we don't say that in the first paragraph, [1] then we lead the reader to believe that the band was influential only because of its guitar dudes, first McKay and then McGeoch.
A certain amount of redundancy is required between this band article and Siouxsie's biography. It's essential to define this band as her creation, her vision, with her influence at the top. Binksternet ( talk) 04:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Regarding the first paragraph describing the band as influential, should Siouxsie's influence be listed as the first reason for the band's fame? The following text is suggested:
Should we change the header image to one of the band in a different iteration?
I think most critics and commentators would agree that as influential as the original lineup was in the birth of post punk, it was the 1980-82 era with John McGeoch and Budgie that garnered the most popular acclaim and widespread influence (see recent McGeoch biography, 2022 as a source for this). In addition, Budgie was the longest serving member of the band after Sioux and Severin and he is almost synonymous with the band's image and reputation - see the bands Spotify page for instance.
Shall we propose a new, clearer image of the band featuring these two? 81.110.11.76 ( talk) 23:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
There was some conflict about what accolades deserved to be mention in the lead paragraph of this band's page. I think I've produced a very reasonable, balanced, and definitely-not-hagiographic-or-fanatically-overstuffed solution to the problem, with attention to avoiding the undue weight which might result from a biased, fanatical, or selective approach to reflecting the journalistic consensus and accolades that are relevant to this musical group. I'm sure all will agree with this equitable and sensible solution as it currently stands. Kkollaps ( talk) 02:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Peter Fenton (guitarist) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Fenton (guitarist) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Carliertwo ( talk) 23:11, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
...Is that Siouxsie Sioux was the founder and leader. If we don't say that in the first paragraph, [1] then we lead the reader to believe that the band was influential only because of its guitar dudes, first McKay and then McGeoch.
A certain amount of redundancy is required between this band article and Siouxsie's biography. It's essential to define this band as her creation, her vision, with her influence at the top. Binksternet ( talk) 04:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Regarding the first paragraph describing the band as influential, should Siouxsie's influence be listed as the first reason for the band's fame? The following text is suggested:
Should we change the header image to one of the band in a different iteration?
I think most critics and commentators would agree that as influential as the original lineup was in the birth of post punk, it was the 1980-82 era with John McGeoch and Budgie that garnered the most popular acclaim and widespread influence (see recent McGeoch biography, 2022 as a source for this). In addition, Budgie was the longest serving member of the band after Sioux and Severin and he is almost synonymous with the band's image and reputation - see the bands Spotify page for instance.
Shall we propose a new, clearer image of the band featuring these two? 81.110.11.76 ( talk) 23:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
There was some conflict about what accolades deserved to be mention in the lead paragraph of this band's page. I think I've produced a very reasonable, balanced, and definitely-not-hagiographic-or-fanatically-overstuffed solution to the problem, with attention to avoiding the undue weight which might result from a biased, fanatical, or selective approach to reflecting the journalistic consensus and accolades that are relevant to this musical group. I'm sure all will agree with this equitable and sensible solution as it currently stands. Kkollaps ( talk) 02:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)