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Hi everyone! I would like to suggest to change the name of this article to the formal name "Sing-Akademie zu Berlin." You may be aware of the fact that there was a serious legal battle about the naming of the choir recently. The correct title would reflect the correct name of the choir AND the historically correct name as it appears in almost all early sources. Since most people know the choir from the generic Berlin Singakademie we could have a redirect to the new name from the old entry. Also it would be helpful to have a page clarifying the difference between Sing-Akademie zu Berlin and Berliner Singakademie. Any thoughts on that? Matthias Röder 14:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
This article is about Sing-Akademie zu Berlin, and just one line is about Berliner Singakademie. I will therefore request a move of this article to its appropriate place. -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 19:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. DrKiernan ( talk) 17:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Berliner Singakademie → Sing-Akademie zu Berlin – This article is about Sing-Akademie zu Berlin, and just one line is about Berliner Singakademie. Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 19:08, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Oppose, true, the historic name is Sing-Akademie zu Berlin, but the present name is Berliner Singakademie, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Oppose, "Berliner Singakademie" is the common name of the 18th century establishment (officially: "Sing-Akademie zu Berlin"), not only the 1963 East German institution. See some of these sources. We might consider moving to Berlin Singing Academy per WP:Use English. -- RJFF ( talk) 11:24, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
For your information: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 11#Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 01:33, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
I was wondering where the information on the Academy of ancient music being the model for the Singakademie comes from? I have never seen such a reference in any of the literature on the topic. Could anyone produce a citation for this claim and add it to the article, please? Many thanks! Matthias Röder 23:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
This article should be split up, because it deals about two distinct academies: The 1791 Sing-Akademie zu Berlin and the 1963 Berliner Singakademie, both still existing today. -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 07:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to write an article about the second academy. Where should I put it? -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 11:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move Berliner Singakademie to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. This has been a somewhat convoluted discussion, but a few things are clear. There is consensus for this move, as well as a rough consensus against moving Berliner Singakademie (East Berlin) to Berliner Singakademie. For the time being, Berliner Singakademie will become a two-way dab page. I would encourage the articles' editors to keep track of page view traffic and sources determine if this situation is really the best bet, or if another option (redirecting "Berliner Singakademie"; moving the East Berlin article, etc.) Cúchullain t/ c 19:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
– Delete the redirect and move Berliner Singakademie to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. Berliner Singakademie can then become an disambiguation page, pointing to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin and Berliner Singakademie (East Berlin). Alternatively, Berliner Singakademie (East Berlin) could be moved to Berliner Singakademie with a hatnote pointing to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 08:44, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hi everyone! I would like to suggest to change the name of this article to the formal name "Sing-Akademie zu Berlin." You may be aware of the fact that there was a serious legal battle about the naming of the choir recently. The correct title would reflect the correct name of the choir AND the historically correct name as it appears in almost all early sources. Since most people know the choir from the generic Berlin Singakademie we could have a redirect to the new name from the old entry. Also it would be helpful to have a page clarifying the difference between Sing-Akademie zu Berlin and Berliner Singakademie. Any thoughts on that? Matthias Röder 14:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
This article is about Sing-Akademie zu Berlin, and just one line is about Berliner Singakademie. I will therefore request a move of this article to its appropriate place. -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 19:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. DrKiernan ( talk) 17:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Berliner Singakademie → Sing-Akademie zu Berlin – This article is about Sing-Akademie zu Berlin, and just one line is about Berliner Singakademie. Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 19:08, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Oppose, true, the historic name is Sing-Akademie zu Berlin, but the present name is Berliner Singakademie, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Oppose, "Berliner Singakademie" is the common name of the 18th century establishment (officially: "Sing-Akademie zu Berlin"), not only the 1963 East German institution. See some of these sources. We might consider moving to Berlin Singing Academy per WP:Use English. -- RJFF ( talk) 11:24, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
For your information: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 11#Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 01:33, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
I was wondering where the information on the Academy of ancient music being the model for the Singakademie comes from? I have never seen such a reference in any of the literature on the topic. Could anyone produce a citation for this claim and add it to the article, please? Many thanks! Matthias Röder 23:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
This article should be split up, because it deals about two distinct academies: The 1791 Sing-Akademie zu Berlin and the 1963 Berliner Singakademie, both still existing today. -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 07:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to write an article about the second academy. Where should I put it? -- Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 11:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move Berliner Singakademie to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. This has been a somewhat convoluted discussion, but a few things are clear. There is consensus for this move, as well as a rough consensus against moving Berliner Singakademie (East Berlin) to Berliner Singakademie. For the time being, Berliner Singakademie will become a two-way dab page. I would encourage the articles' editors to keep track of page view traffic and sources determine if this situation is really the best bet, or if another option (redirecting "Berliner Singakademie"; moving the East Berlin article, etc.) Cúchullain t/ c 19:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
– Delete the redirect and move Berliner Singakademie to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. Berliner Singakademie can then become an disambiguation page, pointing to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin and Berliner Singakademie (East Berlin). Alternatively, Berliner Singakademie (East Berlin) could be moved to Berliner Singakademie with a hatnote pointing to Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. Robert Weemeyer ( talk) 08:44, 11 March 2015 (UTC)