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I think we should include tracks 12 and 13 in the Super Deluxe table for clarity. A reader could reasonably wonder if tracks 12 and 13 were omitted by mistake, if the tracks are misnumbered, etc. Even if the reader expands the Deluxe table, there's nothing explicitly stating that the Super Deluxe version includes those two tracks, so while the reader might be able to piece together what's going on with the table, they might still not be entirely certain. Of course, a reader could click the source and see the track listing on Muse's website just to be sure, so this is a minor inconvenience at best, but clarity and zero inconvenience are better than possible uncertainty and minor inconvenience. Hadger ( talk) ( contribs) 21:50, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
{{ Singles}} is once again a controversial topic in an album article on Wikipedia, also the sky is blue and water is wet. Okay, jokes aside, the issue of what to put into {{ Singles}} has been raised with a few edits ( Figure 1, Figure 2, Figure 3) contesting the inclusion of " Dig Down" on the grounds that it wasn't released in promotion of the album per se, and "The Dark Side" because it is a "promotional single", even though that term exclusively applies to singles sent to radio airplay only and not commercially available. It has been my understanding that {{ Singles}} is used to list all the singles featuring tracks from the article topic album as their A-side, regardless of timeframe or purpose, and that there is a "The Dark Side" single; it is available on iTunes and Google Play to purchase. Ideally, {{ Singles}} shouldn't exist at all and 90% of the problems in all album infoboxes would be gone, but obviously that's a deeply controversial opinion. – PhilipTerryGraham ( talk · articles · reviews) 21:20, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
@ 5.90.24.182 and 5.90.31.112: "The Dark Side" on iTunes and Google Play; "Pressure" on Google Play. Please don't revert content in {{ Singles}} without discussing it here first, as the editors' note states, especially when your inquiries can easily be answered with a Google Search. – PhilipTerryGraham ( talk · articles · reviews) 08:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Although Drones can surely be considered a concept album, can we really consider The Resistance and The 2nd Law as such in the background section as well? I don't remember them being concept albums afaik, since they don't tell the story of an individual and don't revolve around really specific themes like Drones? Or am I wrong? -- IronDust71 ( talk) 00:29, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: ( non-admin closure) NO CONSENSUS - the creation of a WP:DAB page at Simulation theory counteracts the main argument presented in support of the move. There's no evidence given that this (recently released, but chart-topping) album is the primary topic over the simulation hypothesis or the Simulation theory of empathy, thus I have to discount votes such as "Support Per commonname guidelines". The remaining rationale for the move would be that per WP:SMALLDETAILS, the capitalization difference after a move to Simulation Theory is sufficient to distinguish from the DAB page. Several !voters objected to that, and I see no consensus as to whether that should be done here. I considered relisting to try to get a clearer consensus, but I think the situation is best handled by waiting a few more weeks before re-proposing such a move. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 05:53, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Simulation Theory (album) →
Simulation Theory – Currently,
Simulation Theory redirects to the page Simulation hypothesis. Since there isn't a page called "Simulation Theory", I don't see a reason that we shouldn't have this article use that name instead. If this move ends up happening, we should add
a hatnote to the top of this page linking to
Simulation hypothesis.
Hadger (
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contribs) 04:51, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
WP:SMALLDETAILS gives examples of instances in which a difference in capitalization alone is enough to have two different pages without any identifier in parentheses (e.g. Red Meat and Red meat, or MAVEN and Maven). Could we do the same here? I'm thinking we could 1) move Simulation theory of mind to Simulation theory (note the lowercase "t" in "theory"), 2) move Simulation Theory (album) to Simulation Theory (note the capital "t" in "Theory"), and 3) place hatnotes on Simulation theory, Simulation Theory, and Simulation hypothesis directing readers to the other two pages. Hadger ( talk) ( contribs) 20:08, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Would this record fall under the subgenre of Synth-wave? There are some reviews out there stating it as such and I believe a good gist of the album falls under that category. Would love to add it to the genre list. -- LRLArch ( talk) 09:16, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
There isn't a page for the single "The Dark Side" which is one of the most popular tracks from the album. Patata mccurdy ( talk) 10:58, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
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I think we should include tracks 12 and 13 in the Super Deluxe table for clarity. A reader could reasonably wonder if tracks 12 and 13 were omitted by mistake, if the tracks are misnumbered, etc. Even if the reader expands the Deluxe table, there's nothing explicitly stating that the Super Deluxe version includes those two tracks, so while the reader might be able to piece together what's going on with the table, they might still not be entirely certain. Of course, a reader could click the source and see the track listing on Muse's website just to be sure, so this is a minor inconvenience at best, but clarity and zero inconvenience are better than possible uncertainty and minor inconvenience. Hadger ( talk) ( contribs) 21:50, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
{{ Singles}} is once again a controversial topic in an album article on Wikipedia, also the sky is blue and water is wet. Okay, jokes aside, the issue of what to put into {{ Singles}} has been raised with a few edits ( Figure 1, Figure 2, Figure 3) contesting the inclusion of " Dig Down" on the grounds that it wasn't released in promotion of the album per se, and "The Dark Side" because it is a "promotional single", even though that term exclusively applies to singles sent to radio airplay only and not commercially available. It has been my understanding that {{ Singles}} is used to list all the singles featuring tracks from the article topic album as their A-side, regardless of timeframe or purpose, and that there is a "The Dark Side" single; it is available on iTunes and Google Play to purchase. Ideally, {{ Singles}} shouldn't exist at all and 90% of the problems in all album infoboxes would be gone, but obviously that's a deeply controversial opinion. – PhilipTerryGraham ( talk · articles · reviews) 21:20, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
@ 5.90.24.182 and 5.90.31.112: "The Dark Side" on iTunes and Google Play; "Pressure" on Google Play. Please don't revert content in {{ Singles}} without discussing it here first, as the editors' note states, especially when your inquiries can easily be answered with a Google Search. – PhilipTerryGraham ( talk · articles · reviews) 08:15, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Although Drones can surely be considered a concept album, can we really consider The Resistance and The 2nd Law as such in the background section as well? I don't remember them being concept albums afaik, since they don't tell the story of an individual and don't revolve around really specific themes like Drones? Or am I wrong? -- IronDust71 ( talk) 00:29, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: ( non-admin closure) NO CONSENSUS - the creation of a WP:DAB page at Simulation theory counteracts the main argument presented in support of the move. There's no evidence given that this (recently released, but chart-topping) album is the primary topic over the simulation hypothesis or the Simulation theory of empathy, thus I have to discount votes such as "Support Per commonname guidelines". The remaining rationale for the move would be that per WP:SMALLDETAILS, the capitalization difference after a move to Simulation Theory is sufficient to distinguish from the DAB page. Several !voters objected to that, and I see no consensus as to whether that should be done here. I considered relisting to try to get a clearer consensus, but I think the situation is best handled by waiting a few more weeks before re-proposing such a move. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 05:53, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Simulation Theory (album) →
Simulation Theory – Currently,
Simulation Theory redirects to the page Simulation hypothesis. Since there isn't a page called "Simulation Theory", I don't see a reason that we shouldn't have this article use that name instead. If this move ends up happening, we should add
a hatnote to the top of this page linking to
Simulation hypothesis.
Hadger (
talk) (
contribs) 04:51, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
WP:SMALLDETAILS gives examples of instances in which a difference in capitalization alone is enough to have two different pages without any identifier in parentheses (e.g. Red Meat and Red meat, or MAVEN and Maven). Could we do the same here? I'm thinking we could 1) move Simulation theory of mind to Simulation theory (note the lowercase "t" in "theory"), 2) move Simulation Theory (album) to Simulation Theory (note the capital "t" in "Theory"), and 3) place hatnotes on Simulation theory, Simulation Theory, and Simulation hypothesis directing readers to the other two pages. Hadger ( talk) ( contribs) 20:08, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Would this record fall under the subgenre of Synth-wave? There are some reviews out there stating it as such and I believe a good gist of the album falls under that category. Would love to add it to the genre list. -- LRLArch ( talk) 09:16, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
There isn't a page for the single "The Dark Side" which is one of the most popular tracks from the album. Patata mccurdy ( talk) 10:58, 20 November 2020 (UTC)