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There is a lack of consensus about how Sigma Phi Delta should be classified. Is it a professional fraternity, or is it a social fraternity? Sigma Phi Delta belongs to multiple trade groups. It belongs to the North-American Interfraternity Conference, primarily for social fraternities, and to the Professional Fraternity Association which is for professional groups. In addition, the argument has been made that because this is an all-male organization, it should automatically be classified as social due to Title IX. NYCRuss ☎ 21:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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help)I worked my way through the Sigma Phi Delta website, and found this statement in the fraternity history for 1990-1995 ( http://www.sigmaphidelta.org/index.php?page=history&num=10) (From the 1993 convention)
The Thirtieth General Convention was held in Los Angeles, California, on September 2, 3 and 4, 1993. Pi Chapter members had moved en masse from their Chapter houses in Daytona Beach, Florida, leaving the housing board with almost $130,000 in renovations with no chapter to support them. A summons was issued for the Chapter to appear at a hearing during the 30th General Convention. After the hearing, the General Convention found the Chapter guilty on the charges of conduct prejudicial to good order, delinquency in accounts and violation of the Oath of Initiation. The Chapter was officially reprimanded, as provided for in the Statutory Code. They were instructed to provide 200 man-hours of labor to repair the trashing of the chapter houses. Failure to comply could result in a change of penalty to suspension.
Of considerable concern to the Delegates was the subject of a dual-gender organization. To remain strictly professional would require opening our membership to women engineers. The consensus was that we should be a social fraternity of engineers, which would permit us to retain our single-gender membership. (emphasis added)
To me this indicates that the Fraternity has dealt with the issue as to whether or not it is a social fraternity, and decided that to avoid having to open their membership to women engineers that they would be social. I was unable to find anything indicating that a change had been made since the 1993 convention. Naraht ( talk) 13:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Note also, that this decision was made in 1993, after the most recent publication of Baird's, which was in 1991. Therefore, I don't believe that the inclusion of Sigma Phi Delta in an edition of Baird's (unclear whether refering to 1991 or not), represents an appropriate reference in regards to its current status. Naraht ( talk) 13:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
The above quoted website information only confirms that Sigma Phi Delta in 1993 continued to view itself as a "professional-social" fraternity - a term that became obsolete for collegate fraternities due to Title IX. As indicated on the Sigma Phi Delta website under the pledging eligibility memo dated March 30, 2007, it is still calling itself a social-professional fraternity -- it also does not allow membership in the professional engineering fraternity, Theta Tau, or any social fraternity. Therefore, there is no indication Sigma Phi Delta has yet dealt with the issue of becoming a "social" fraternity as compared to what happened with Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia fraternity (e.g., removing references to professional fraternity, changing constitutional objective to no longer promote a specific profession, and ending membership in the PFA) (see also http://www.sinfonia.org/social). So unless Sigma Phi Delta makes changes, it is simply a professional engineering fraternity with a lot of social events. Also, based on Sigma Phi Delta website history, the fraternity will probably continue to call itself professional-social and try to stay male-only until it is challeged on why it is not co-ed (i.e., a university or individual makes a complaint of alledged discrimination against a recipient of Federal financial assistance). Newsun ( talk) 18:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck... NYCRuss ☎ 20:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)The object of the Sigma Phi Delta Fraternity shall be to promote the advancement of the Engineering Profession; to foster the advancement of Engineering Education; to instill a greater spirit of cooperation among Engineering students and organizations; to inculcate in its members the highest ideals of Virtuous manhood, good Citizenship, obedience to Law, and Brotherhood; and to encourage excellence in Scholarship.
The objectives of TRIANGLE, which apply to all members, are:
1. To help develop the highest standards of personal integrity and character, 2. To foster and provide an intellectual, mature environment for its members through individual and group effort and through the mutual companionship of men with similar professional interests and goals, 3. To foster and provide the broadening experience of fraternity living with its social and moral challenges and responsibilities for the individual and the chapter, 4. To recognize and support the objectives and goals of the alma mater and those of the community through responsible participation and action, 5. To help bridge the gap between undergraduate study and the vocation of the individual in industry, the academic world or government, 6. To foster and maintain a bond of fraternal brotherhood through a continuing program of activity for the alumni, and 7. To bring into focus the elements of planned progress for the betterment of mankind.
Can this discussion be moved to Professional fraternities and sororities? The result of this discussion would also clarify the type/scope of the few other collegiate professional fraternities that still call themselves professional-social and are trying to stay single-gender despite Title IX, these include Alpha Gamma Rho, Alpha Gamma Sigma, Delta Theta Sigma, and Alpha Omega Epsilon. Newsun ( talk) 14:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
To give references to NYCRuss's original statement, Sigma Phi Delta is a member of both the North-American Interfraternity Conference ( http://www.nicindy.org/about/) and the Professional Fraternity Association ( http://www.profraternity.org/page.php?parent_id=&page_id=106623). Naraht ( talk) 20:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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I can't come up with any other examples where the history per chapter is done this way. I think the article would be better served with a table with chapter name, location, date and maybe notes. Naraht ( talk) 14:55, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
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There is a lack of consensus about how Sigma Phi Delta should be classified. Is it a professional fraternity, or is it a social fraternity? Sigma Phi Delta belongs to multiple trade groups. It belongs to the North-American Interfraternity Conference, primarily for social fraternities, and to the Professional Fraternity Association which is for professional groups. In addition, the argument has been made that because this is an all-male organization, it should automatically be classified as social due to Title IX. NYCRuss ☎ 21:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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help)I worked my way through the Sigma Phi Delta website, and found this statement in the fraternity history for 1990-1995 ( http://www.sigmaphidelta.org/index.php?page=history&num=10) (From the 1993 convention)
The Thirtieth General Convention was held in Los Angeles, California, on September 2, 3 and 4, 1993. Pi Chapter members had moved en masse from their Chapter houses in Daytona Beach, Florida, leaving the housing board with almost $130,000 in renovations with no chapter to support them. A summons was issued for the Chapter to appear at a hearing during the 30th General Convention. After the hearing, the General Convention found the Chapter guilty on the charges of conduct prejudicial to good order, delinquency in accounts and violation of the Oath of Initiation. The Chapter was officially reprimanded, as provided for in the Statutory Code. They were instructed to provide 200 man-hours of labor to repair the trashing of the chapter houses. Failure to comply could result in a change of penalty to suspension.
Of considerable concern to the Delegates was the subject of a dual-gender organization. To remain strictly professional would require opening our membership to women engineers. The consensus was that we should be a social fraternity of engineers, which would permit us to retain our single-gender membership. (emphasis added)
To me this indicates that the Fraternity has dealt with the issue as to whether or not it is a social fraternity, and decided that to avoid having to open their membership to women engineers that they would be social. I was unable to find anything indicating that a change had been made since the 1993 convention. Naraht ( talk) 13:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Note also, that this decision was made in 1993, after the most recent publication of Baird's, which was in 1991. Therefore, I don't believe that the inclusion of Sigma Phi Delta in an edition of Baird's (unclear whether refering to 1991 or not), represents an appropriate reference in regards to its current status. Naraht ( talk) 13:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
The above quoted website information only confirms that Sigma Phi Delta in 1993 continued to view itself as a "professional-social" fraternity - a term that became obsolete for collegate fraternities due to Title IX. As indicated on the Sigma Phi Delta website under the pledging eligibility memo dated March 30, 2007, it is still calling itself a social-professional fraternity -- it also does not allow membership in the professional engineering fraternity, Theta Tau, or any social fraternity. Therefore, there is no indication Sigma Phi Delta has yet dealt with the issue of becoming a "social" fraternity as compared to what happened with Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia fraternity (e.g., removing references to professional fraternity, changing constitutional objective to no longer promote a specific profession, and ending membership in the PFA) (see also http://www.sinfonia.org/social). So unless Sigma Phi Delta makes changes, it is simply a professional engineering fraternity with a lot of social events. Also, based on Sigma Phi Delta website history, the fraternity will probably continue to call itself professional-social and try to stay male-only until it is challeged on why it is not co-ed (i.e., a university or individual makes a complaint of alledged discrimination against a recipient of Federal financial assistance). Newsun ( talk) 18:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck... NYCRuss ☎ 20:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)The object of the Sigma Phi Delta Fraternity shall be to promote the advancement of the Engineering Profession; to foster the advancement of Engineering Education; to instill a greater spirit of cooperation among Engineering students and organizations; to inculcate in its members the highest ideals of Virtuous manhood, good Citizenship, obedience to Law, and Brotherhood; and to encourage excellence in Scholarship.
The objectives of TRIANGLE, which apply to all members, are:
1. To help develop the highest standards of personal integrity and character, 2. To foster and provide an intellectual, mature environment for its members through individual and group effort and through the mutual companionship of men with similar professional interests and goals, 3. To foster and provide the broadening experience of fraternity living with its social and moral challenges and responsibilities for the individual and the chapter, 4. To recognize and support the objectives and goals of the alma mater and those of the community through responsible participation and action, 5. To help bridge the gap between undergraduate study and the vocation of the individual in industry, the academic world or government, 6. To foster and maintain a bond of fraternal brotherhood through a continuing program of activity for the alumni, and 7. To bring into focus the elements of planned progress for the betterment of mankind.
Can this discussion be moved to Professional fraternities and sororities? The result of this discussion would also clarify the type/scope of the few other collegiate professional fraternities that still call themselves professional-social and are trying to stay single-gender despite Title IX, these include Alpha Gamma Rho, Alpha Gamma Sigma, Delta Theta Sigma, and Alpha Omega Epsilon. Newsun ( talk) 14:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
To give references to NYCRuss's original statement, Sigma Phi Delta is a member of both the North-American Interfraternity Conference ( http://www.nicindy.org/about/) and the Professional Fraternity Association ( http://www.profraternity.org/page.php?parent_id=&page_id=106623). Naraht ( talk) 20:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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I can't come up with any other examples where the history per chapter is done this way. I think the article would be better served with a table with chapter name, location, date and maybe notes. Naraht ( talk) 14:55, 8 May 2019 (UTC)