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Did you know... that at the 1783 Siege of Bednore a British force of 1,600 faced a
Mysore army of more than 100,000?
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... that the British garrison of Bednore was surprised by the appearance of the
Mysore Army on 9 April 1783 as they were too focussed on plunder? "the army was dispersed in detachments to occupy almost every town and mud fort in the country; nothing, it is said, was dreamt of but riches: intelligence, fortifications and subsistence were all equally neglected. In this state of supine insensibilit, Tippoo suddenly apepared on the 9th of April, drove in a detachment stationed four miles distant at Fattiput, seized the town of Bednore with a considerable wuantity of ammunition neglectfully remaining without the magazin;laid seige to the fort" from: Mill, James (1820).
The History of British India. London: Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy. p. 232.
ALT1:... that at the 1783 Siege of Bednore a British force of 1,600 faced a
Mysore Army of more than 100,000? "Le Couteur served with General Mathews in Malabar, and was with Mathews when he shut himself up in Nagar (Bednore) with six hundred Europeans and one thousand sepoys, while Tippoo Sahib, with two thousand French and one hundred thousand sepoys, besieged him" from: "
Le Couteur, John". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900.
ALT2:... that twenty British officers were murdered with poison after surrendering at the 1783 Siege of Bednore?"After losing five hundred men, Mathews surrendered, and on 28 April 1783 the garrison marched out with all the honours of war, the officers retaining their personal effects. Mathews was, however, accused by Tippoo of having appropriated and divided the contents of the military chest, and was soon afterwards poisoned with nineteen officers" from: "
Le Couteur, John". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900.
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Article looks good. I've made some copy-edits. Long enough, new enough, appropriately sourced. I cannot detect any copyright issues. Neutrally written. ALT3 strikes me as a little non-neutral by omission, so I have a slight preference for the other two. I've added a link to "Mysore Army" in the hooks, I hope that's okay. AGF on offline sources. J.S. Mill's History of India has generally fallen out of favor, as far as I am aware; usage here is minimal, and is therefore okay, but flagging it if you're going to expand this. The redlink "Chittledroog" is likely an anglicization of an existing Indian town; possibly
Chitradurga, based on some quick googling. That's not a DYK requirement, but likely worth fixing. Best, Vanamonde (
Talk) 21:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review
Vanamonde, I agree with your edits here and at the article. Agree with you on the sources which are all old. I came at this after writing
List of British colours lost in battle where it was a red link. I had nothing in my library so had to use what was available on Google Books, it wouldn't get anywhere at GA but I have no ambitions there and just wanted to make sure we had something. I think you're right on Chitradurga and have linked this in the article (I looked at the time but must have missed this, it took me long enough to work out what Bednore was called today!) -
Dumelow (
talk) 06:46, 12 January 2021 (UTC)reply
A fact from Siege of Bednore appeared on Wikipedia's
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Did you know... that at the 1783 Siege of Bednore a British force of 1,600 faced a
Mysore army of more than 100,000?
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The result was: promoted by
SL93 (
talk) 00:42, 21 January 2021 (UTC)reply
... that the British garrison of Bednore was surprised by the appearance of the
Mysore Army on 9 April 1783 as they were too focussed on plunder? "the army was dispersed in detachments to occupy almost every town and mud fort in the country; nothing, it is said, was dreamt of but riches: intelligence, fortifications and subsistence were all equally neglected. In this state of supine insensibilit, Tippoo suddenly apepared on the 9th of April, drove in a detachment stationed four miles distant at Fattiput, seized the town of Bednore with a considerable wuantity of ammunition neglectfully remaining without the magazin;laid seige to the fort" from: Mill, James (1820).
The History of British India. London: Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy. p. 232.
ALT1:... that at the 1783 Siege of Bednore a British force of 1,600 faced a
Mysore Army of more than 100,000? "Le Couteur served with General Mathews in Malabar, and was with Mathews when he shut himself up in Nagar (Bednore) with six hundred Europeans and one thousand sepoys, while Tippoo Sahib, with two thousand French and one hundred thousand sepoys, besieged him" from: "
Le Couteur, John". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900.
ALT2:... that twenty British officers were murdered with poison after surrendering at the 1783 Siege of Bednore?"After losing five hundred men, Mathews surrendered, and on 28 April 1783 the garrison marched out with all the honours of war, the officers retaining their personal effects. Mathews was, however, accused by Tippoo of having appropriated and divided the contents of the military chest, and was soon afterwards poisoned with nineteen officers" from: "
Le Couteur, John". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900.
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Dumelow (
talk). Self-nominated at 20:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC).reply
Article looks good. I've made some copy-edits. Long enough, new enough, appropriately sourced. I cannot detect any copyright issues. Neutrally written. ALT3 strikes me as a little non-neutral by omission, so I have a slight preference for the other two. I've added a link to "Mysore Army" in the hooks, I hope that's okay. AGF on offline sources. J.S. Mill's History of India has generally fallen out of favor, as far as I am aware; usage here is minimal, and is therefore okay, but flagging it if you're going to expand this. The redlink "Chittledroog" is likely an anglicization of an existing Indian town; possibly
Chitradurga, based on some quick googling. That's not a DYK requirement, but likely worth fixing. Best, Vanamonde (
Talk) 21:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the review
Vanamonde, I agree with your edits here and at the article. Agree with you on the sources which are all old. I came at this after writing
List of British colours lost in battle where it was a red link. I had nothing in my library so had to use what was available on Google Books, it wouldn't get anywhere at GA but I have no ambitions there and just wanted to make sure we had something. I think you're right on Chitradurga and have linked this in the article (I looked at the time but must have missed this, it took me long enough to work out what Bednore was called today!) -
Dumelow (
talk) 06:46, 12 January 2021 (UTC)reply