This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Siôn Simon article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
this page could do with a photo Matthewfelgate 21:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
In regards to the David Cameron spoof video: What a pratt? - How did this idiot become an MP?
I have added in a paragraph regarding his interview on Sky News on Oct 12 with Anna Botting. I saw it live but dont know how to reference a live show (someone help!!). Anyway, he was very rude on it and told Anna to shut up - complete twat!
"It was roundly ridiculed in the media as a 'failed coup'" seems a bit strong for an 'unbiased' media - anyone else object? BarryNorton
I agree and I have changed it to a form of words I think describes what happened in straightforward terms. 81.86.108.83 19:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC). (forgot to sign in) Hobson 19:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
often quoted as Welsh born - stated here Cernarvonshire; births deaths marriages index shows him born in Doncaster - as stated in box - any knowledge which is correct?
Md010101 asked for an explanation to my edit, so I'll try and oblige. My edit removed the text:
I watched the video before I removed the paragraph. He does say the "my job as a Labour MP..." quote, but does not say "his prime responsibilities as an MP were not to his constituents" as far as I can see. I also removed the "hubris" accusation, referenced to Guido Fawlks, because Guido's post was a one-liner. -- h2g2bob ( talk) 20:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I understand what you are saying, but I think this risks being censored through political bias. You admit that he states "my job as a Labour MP..." in the interview. Given that to become an MP (every one of them), they must primarily represent the interests of their constituents (as represented through their oath to the Queen and her subjects that underpins the entire historical parliamentary system), by stating that his prime responsibility is to a political party instead, it betrays his obligation to his constituents. He can only have one "prime responsibility". By all means question the two (or three or four...) party system, but do not be confused with their oath that they swear upon.
If you still have any doubts about this, simply ask any (and I do mean any) MP who they represent in parliament - the answer will always be their constituents. It has always been this way, written into the historical origins of parliament.
For these reasons, I have undone your undo.
Please feel free to discuss.
Md010101 ( talk) 13:01, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
It says: "Born in Caernarfonshire ... to Welsh-speaking parents, Simon grew up in Birmingham, attending Handsworth Grammar School ...".
So how come it also says he was 'Born Doncaster'? ( 90.204.105.34 ( talk) 20:35, 17 January 2012 (UTC))
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Siôn Simon. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 00:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
From the main article: "Simon lives in Birmingham is a member of the Royal Shakespeare Company". No serious, he is not, see e.g. /info/en/?search=Category:Royal_Shakespeare_Company_members. Whoever wrote this probably meant that he has a membership of the RSC, something completely different and really not significant.
Supposed reference to show this leads to 2004 article! See http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/labour-mayor-candidate-sion-simon-12951977 for contrasting viewpoint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.0.122 ( talk) 16:04, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Siôn Simon article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
this page could do with a photo Matthewfelgate 21:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
In regards to the David Cameron spoof video: What a pratt? - How did this idiot become an MP?
I have added in a paragraph regarding his interview on Sky News on Oct 12 with Anna Botting. I saw it live but dont know how to reference a live show (someone help!!). Anyway, he was very rude on it and told Anna to shut up - complete twat!
"It was roundly ridiculed in the media as a 'failed coup'" seems a bit strong for an 'unbiased' media - anyone else object? BarryNorton
I agree and I have changed it to a form of words I think describes what happened in straightforward terms. 81.86.108.83 19:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC). (forgot to sign in) Hobson 19:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
often quoted as Welsh born - stated here Cernarvonshire; births deaths marriages index shows him born in Doncaster - as stated in box - any knowledge which is correct?
Md010101 asked for an explanation to my edit, so I'll try and oblige. My edit removed the text:
I watched the video before I removed the paragraph. He does say the "my job as a Labour MP..." quote, but does not say "his prime responsibilities as an MP were not to his constituents" as far as I can see. I also removed the "hubris" accusation, referenced to Guido Fawlks, because Guido's post was a one-liner. -- h2g2bob ( talk) 20:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I understand what you are saying, but I think this risks being censored through political bias. You admit that he states "my job as a Labour MP..." in the interview. Given that to become an MP (every one of them), they must primarily represent the interests of their constituents (as represented through their oath to the Queen and her subjects that underpins the entire historical parliamentary system), by stating that his prime responsibility is to a political party instead, it betrays his obligation to his constituents. He can only have one "prime responsibility". By all means question the two (or three or four...) party system, but do not be confused with their oath that they swear upon.
If you still have any doubts about this, simply ask any (and I do mean any) MP who they represent in parliament - the answer will always be their constituents. It has always been this way, written into the historical origins of parliament.
For these reasons, I have undone your undo.
Please feel free to discuss.
Md010101 ( talk) 13:01, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
It says: "Born in Caernarfonshire ... to Welsh-speaking parents, Simon grew up in Birmingham, attending Handsworth Grammar School ...".
So how come it also says he was 'Born Doncaster'? ( 90.204.105.34 ( talk) 20:35, 17 January 2012 (UTC))
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Siôn Simon. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 00:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
From the main article: "Simon lives in Birmingham is a member of the Royal Shakespeare Company". No serious, he is not, see e.g. /info/en/?search=Category:Royal_Shakespeare_Company_members. Whoever wrote this probably meant that he has a membership of the RSC, something completely different and really not significant.
Supposed reference to show this leads to 2004 article! See http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/labour-mayor-candidate-sion-simon-12951977 for contrasting viewpoint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.0.122 ( talk) 16:04, 5 May 2017 (UTC)