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I googled "Frank H. Reid" on google books. Not a single one of the descriptions of the shootout I came across (in "Aunt Phil's Trunk: Early Alaska", in "Hub City: Nanaimo, 1886-1920" and in "The Rotarian" - aug 1983, Vol. 143, nr. 2, "Moon Alaska", "Gold Fever: Incredible Tales of the Klondike Gold Rush") said Smith was killed by Murphy: all of them say he was killed by Reid during the fire exchange.-- 91.148.159.4 ( talk) 21:30, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
The evidence is strong that Jesse Murphy shot Soapy Smith, but did he kill him? Not according to the Coroner’s Inquest which concluded that Frank Reid fired the fatal shot. Without knowing all the evidence available to the 6 man jury, how can it be stated as “fact” that it was Murphy that shot Smith through the heart? Isn’t that a hypothesis? Ruthiegirl9 ( talk) 13:15, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Si Tanner was also the brother-in-law of Emery Valentine and very much involved in Valentine's business operations. I'm pretty sure that the "Juneau Wharf" was a counterpart to the People's Wharf that Valentine had built in Juneau just a few years before. Tanner also later served as mayor of Skagway and as a U.S. Marshal. RadioKAOS ( talk) 20:30, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
This incident is included in the plot of John Sayles' fine historical novel A Moment In The Sun, as is the so-called Wilmington (NC) Insurrection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.68.254 ( talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 September 2012
There is an article on Bobby Sheldon which has languished in Articles for Creation purgatory for well over a year. The significance to this is that Sheldon spent approximately the last forty years of his life claiming to be the last living eyewitness to the shooting, as mentioned in Patty, Stanton H. (2004). Fearless Men and Fabulous Women - A Reporter's Memoir from Alaska & the Yukon. Kenmore: Epicenter Press. ISBN 0-9745014-0-9. and no doubt in other sources as well. This was only one of many things Sheldon was notable for in his lifetime. RadioKAOS – Talk to me, Billy 23:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
I need resolution to the story! Or at least a statement that it's unknown. 128.8.202.12 ( talk) 17:34, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
This article was rated B-class but is in need of clean-up. This is not consistent with a B-class article, so I have reassessed it as C-class. The article needs the following improvements:
I would welcome discussion on either issue - Cameron Dewe ( talk) 22:52, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Let’s not forget that the coroner’s jury ruled that it was Frank Reid that fired the fatal shot, and not Jesse Murphy. They may have had information at the time that we don’t know about. Certainly they had two autopsies to go by, and their professional judgement was that it was Reid’s bullet that caused the death. So while it is an interesting hypothesis that Murphy fired the fatal shot, with references that back that hypothesis, it is still not the official record. That’s why I find it troublesome to see statements like it is “clearly proved” that Murphy killed Smith. To prove that Murphy killed Smith, you would also have to prove that a U.S. Commissioner, three doctors, a minister, and six citizens under oath all perjured themselves at risk of severe penalty, and I don’t think that can be done. 24.237.31.191 ( talk) 22:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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I googled "Frank H. Reid" on google books. Not a single one of the descriptions of the shootout I came across (in "Aunt Phil's Trunk: Early Alaska", in "Hub City: Nanaimo, 1886-1920" and in "The Rotarian" - aug 1983, Vol. 143, nr. 2, "Moon Alaska", "Gold Fever: Incredible Tales of the Klondike Gold Rush") said Smith was killed by Murphy: all of them say he was killed by Reid during the fire exchange.-- 91.148.159.4 ( talk) 21:30, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
The evidence is strong that Jesse Murphy shot Soapy Smith, but did he kill him? Not according to the Coroner’s Inquest which concluded that Frank Reid fired the fatal shot. Without knowing all the evidence available to the 6 man jury, how can it be stated as “fact” that it was Murphy that shot Smith through the heart? Isn’t that a hypothesis? Ruthiegirl9 ( talk) 13:15, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Si Tanner was also the brother-in-law of Emery Valentine and very much involved in Valentine's business operations. I'm pretty sure that the "Juneau Wharf" was a counterpart to the People's Wharf that Valentine had built in Juneau just a few years before. Tanner also later served as mayor of Skagway and as a U.S. Marshal. RadioKAOS ( talk) 20:30, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
This incident is included in the plot of John Sayles' fine historical novel A Moment In The Sun, as is the so-called Wilmington (NC) Insurrection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.68.254 ( talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 September 2012
There is an article on Bobby Sheldon which has languished in Articles for Creation purgatory for well over a year. The significance to this is that Sheldon spent approximately the last forty years of his life claiming to be the last living eyewitness to the shooting, as mentioned in Patty, Stanton H. (2004). Fearless Men and Fabulous Women - A Reporter's Memoir from Alaska & the Yukon. Kenmore: Epicenter Press. ISBN 0-9745014-0-9. and no doubt in other sources as well. This was only one of many things Sheldon was notable for in his lifetime. RadioKAOS – Talk to me, Billy 23:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
I need resolution to the story! Or at least a statement that it's unknown. 128.8.202.12 ( talk) 17:34, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
This article was rated B-class but is in need of clean-up. This is not consistent with a B-class article, so I have reassessed it as C-class. The article needs the following improvements:
I would welcome discussion on either issue - Cameron Dewe ( talk) 22:52, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Let’s not forget that the coroner’s jury ruled that it was Frank Reid that fired the fatal shot, and not Jesse Murphy. They may have had information at the time that we don’t know about. Certainly they had two autopsies to go by, and their professional judgement was that it was Reid’s bullet that caused the death. So while it is an interesting hypothesis that Murphy fired the fatal shot, with references that back that hypothesis, it is still not the official record. That’s why I find it troublesome to see statements like it is “clearly proved” that Murphy killed Smith. To prove that Murphy killed Smith, you would also have to prove that a U.S. Commissioner, three doctors, a minister, and six citizens under oath all perjured themselves at risk of severe penalty, and I don’t think that can be done. 24.237.31.191 ( talk) 22:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)