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At least in California, USA, the Sheriff has the responsibility to recover any deceased persons within their county. That is why often the full title is Deputy Sheriff Coroner, and that is one of the main reasons Search & Rescue teams fall under the Sheriff’s department instead of Fire/Rescue branch or local Police Departments. If there is a deceased person, legally (not minding and local agreements between agencies) the Sheriff has sole duty to recover the body. Does anyone know more about this, especially for other states in the USA? To me it is one of the crucial differences between Sheriff & Police departments, as well as the reasoning behind "Sheriff Rescue" squads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.122.182.24 ( talk) 05:02, 21 June 2004 (UTC)
I think the concept of the sheriff as the county's principal police authority might have more accurately evolved from the Anglo-Welsh High Sheriff, as that is clearly an executive function while the Scottish sheriff is a judiciary role. - knoodelhed 08:20, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
This was located on the sharif article, however, I took it out because it adds nothing to that article. However, I searched this article and there was no mention of "shire reeve." Perhaps someone can find a place to insert this into this article.
Pepsidrinka 05:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a record of sheriffs who came from a minority background, like African-American, Native American or female? -- 149.226.255.200 17:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
The Governor of Texas is not the “High Sheriff” of the state. That term is not used anywhere in the Texas statutes or Texas Constitution. Moreover, the governor does not have any general authority over a sheriff.
Additionally, the Governor of Texas is not the “Chief Texas Ranger”. That term is also not used anywhere in the Texas statutes or Texas Constitution, and the governor is not designated as a Texas Ranger or any other type of peace officer for that matter.
The Texas Rangers normally answer to the Director of the Texas Department of Public Safety (Texas Government Code §411.021). However, the governor can assume command of the TX DPS for various reasons (TCG §411.012), but this is not the same as being the “Chief Texas Ranger”. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.17.229 ( talk) 00:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Some Muslim people in india have a family name of sheriff followed by their first name.
The term "sheriff" is added next to their first name of all members of their family. People with this name are wide spread all over india. — Preceding
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Have we covered how a sheriff can deputize people? Jeff503 22:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
If you mean to include information indicating that Sheriffs (generally) have a power to deputise then that information may be relevant to this article. It would then be relevant to indicate that the titles used by those deputies are varied depending upon the jurisdiction in which the Sheriff operates and the various roles they are deputised to perform and include Deputy Sheriff, Under Sheriff, Assistant Sheriff, Sheriff's Officer, Bailiff, Deputy Bailiff, Assistant Bailiff,.... (Can anyone else add to this list?) I would suggest however that the article refrains from describing "how" the Sheriff makes those appointments because it will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction for example from mere oral or written deputisation through to appointment processes requiring variously approval of the court judges, by other court officials and/or by the the government in the jurisdiction. Lanyon 01:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
In the article it states: " many counties' agreement with the sheriff's department allows the elected sheriff to keep the remaining funds allocated.[5] [1] " I went to the referenced page and found this under allocation of funding for feeding prisoners:
(A) The county fiscal body shall make an appropriation in the usual manner from the county general fund to the sheriff for feeding prisoners. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the appropriation. The sheriff shall deposit all meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7 in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(B) The sheriff shall pay for feeding prisoners from meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the meal allowances. After the expenses of feeding prisoners are paid, the sheriff shall deposit any unspent meal allowance money in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
It looks as though the Sheriff is responsible for feeding prisoners, but any balance remaining is to go to the "general fund for use for any general fund purpose". It is possible that in practice there is a way for the Sheriff to get moneys remaining from this use, but in the quoted state code, I don't see how that would be legal. Any attorneys want to take this on? Crocadillion 17:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm Crocadillion 16:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
This is just as bad as when we Californians were ordered(in 2000) to vote the 58 counties' municipal courts into oblivion, along w/ the court police services[marshals]... Michaela92399 02:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of September 9, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:
As is readily apparent, I did not apply the customary hold period to this article. This is because the article violates at least one the of quick-fail criteria, namely that there are numerous cleanup notices present, in this case of the {{ refimprove}} and {{ fact}} variety.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you for your work so far. — VanTucky (talk) 00:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
The first reference only shows that the term "officer" is used, so we have no reference for the assertion that it is incorrect. Why does that matter anyway? This article isn't about federal agents. The second reference, to a concurring opinion in Printz v. United States, doesn't mention "Castaneda v. USA, Case No: 2:1996cv00099, Wyoming District Court, Casper, decided 29th April 1997". Furthermore, there are sources out there which claim this case and that quote from it are a hoax. [3] [4] Until we can find a reliable source that mentions this finding we should leave this out. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
There is a disambiguation proposal template on the article. Does it predate the existing Sheriff (disambiguation) page? If not does anyone support it? I'll get rid of it if no one supports it by 3 January. - Rrius ( talk) 04:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is there a blank History Section with a main article link to a non-existent History article? - Rrius ( talk) 04:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
In most states, that would be the District Attorney... not a sheriff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.33.235.214 ( talk) 22:11, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I think Sherrif actually comes from "Shire reif" not shire reeve. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.118.49 ( talk) 01:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Then you are mistaken it actually is Shire Reeve —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.164.29.80 ( talk) 17:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Similiarities between Canada, the US and maybe other countries with English-derived justice systems probably ought to be recorded. For example: planning high security trials (a "given" for protection of justices IMO), protection of Judges and Prosecutors (doesn't have to be "crown"), managing detention cells, transport prisoners, manage and provide protection for juries, serve court-related documents, execute court orders and warrants, and assist with coroner's court (I'm guessing on this latter for the US). This was for British Columbia, but applies nearly everywhere mentioned in first sentence if worded a bit more generically. Student7 ( talk) 18:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
This section is at least ambiguous or confusing: As far as I'm aware, the Lord Mayor of London is elected and installed to the office by the people by popular vote. The contradicts with the claim that the alderman sheriff becomes the next mayor. Maybe I'm confusing the Greater London Metropolitan area with the borough of City of London? In any case, this should be clarified. 78.152.228.96 ( talk) 14:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)15-9-2012
I see that
has recently been changed to:
I thought this was vandalism, perhaps by someone trying to protest against the privatization of prisons - but maybe it was a clumsy or poorly-worded attempt to change the article to state that some prisons are now privately managed.
Other parts of the change seem correct, too; a Department of Corrections *is* sometimes called the Department of Justice, and I believe the alteration is correct in changing "coronal" to "coronial".
So I'm not sure whether to regard it as vandalism and revert it, or what.
Any thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.J.E. ( talk • contribs) 16:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
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At least in California, USA, the Sheriff has the responsibility to recover any deceased persons within their county. That is why often the full title is Deputy Sheriff Coroner, and that is one of the main reasons Search & Rescue teams fall under the Sheriff’s department instead of Fire/Rescue branch or local Police Departments. If there is a deceased person, legally (not minding and local agreements between agencies) the Sheriff has sole duty to recover the body. Does anyone know more about this, especially for other states in the USA? To me it is one of the crucial differences between Sheriff & Police departments, as well as the reasoning behind "Sheriff Rescue" squads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.122.182.24 ( talk) 05:02, 21 June 2004 (UTC)
I think the concept of the sheriff as the county's principal police authority might have more accurately evolved from the Anglo-Welsh High Sheriff, as that is clearly an executive function while the Scottish sheriff is a judiciary role. - knoodelhed 08:20, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
This was located on the sharif article, however, I took it out because it adds nothing to that article. However, I searched this article and there was no mention of "shire reeve." Perhaps someone can find a place to insert this into this article.
Pepsidrinka 05:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a record of sheriffs who came from a minority background, like African-American, Native American or female? -- 149.226.255.200 17:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
The Governor of Texas is not the “High Sheriff” of the state. That term is not used anywhere in the Texas statutes or Texas Constitution. Moreover, the governor does not have any general authority over a sheriff.
Additionally, the Governor of Texas is not the “Chief Texas Ranger”. That term is also not used anywhere in the Texas statutes or Texas Constitution, and the governor is not designated as a Texas Ranger or any other type of peace officer for that matter.
The Texas Rangers normally answer to the Director of the Texas Department of Public Safety (Texas Government Code §411.021). However, the governor can assume command of the TX DPS for various reasons (TCG §411.012), but this is not the same as being the “Chief Texas Ranger”. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.17.229 ( talk) 00:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Some Muslim people in india have a family name of sheriff followed by their first name.
The term "sheriff" is added next to their first name of all members of their family. People with this name are wide spread all over india. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Mrahumansheriff (
talk •
contribs)
11:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Have we covered how a sheriff can deputize people? Jeff503 22:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
If you mean to include information indicating that Sheriffs (generally) have a power to deputise then that information may be relevant to this article. It would then be relevant to indicate that the titles used by those deputies are varied depending upon the jurisdiction in which the Sheriff operates and the various roles they are deputised to perform and include Deputy Sheriff, Under Sheriff, Assistant Sheriff, Sheriff's Officer, Bailiff, Deputy Bailiff, Assistant Bailiff,.... (Can anyone else add to this list?) I would suggest however that the article refrains from describing "how" the Sheriff makes those appointments because it will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction for example from mere oral or written deputisation through to appointment processes requiring variously approval of the court judges, by other court officials and/or by the the government in the jurisdiction. Lanyon 01:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
In the article it states: " many counties' agreement with the sheriff's department allows the elected sheriff to keep the remaining funds allocated.[5] [1] " I went to the referenced page and found this under allocation of funding for feeding prisoners:
(A) The county fiscal body shall make an appropriation in the usual manner from the county general fund to the sheriff for feeding prisoners. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the appropriation. The sheriff shall deposit all meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7 in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
(B) The sheriff shall pay for feeding prisoners from meal allowances received under IC 36-8-10-7. The sheriff or the sheriff's officers, deputies, or employees may not make a profit from the meal allowances. After the expenses of feeding prisoners are paid, the sheriff shall deposit any unspent meal allowance money in the county general fund for use for any general fund purpose.
It looks as though the Sheriff is responsible for feeding prisoners, but any balance remaining is to go to the "general fund for use for any general fund purpose". It is possible that in practice there is a way for the Sheriff to get moneys remaining from this use, but in the quoted state code, I don't see how that would be legal. Any attorneys want to take this on? Crocadillion 17:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm Crocadillion 16:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
This is just as bad as when we Californians were ordered(in 2000) to vote the 58 counties' municipal courts into oblivion, along w/ the court police services[marshals]... Michaela92399 02:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of September 9, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:
As is readily apparent, I did not apply the customary hold period to this article. This is because the article violates at least one the of quick-fail criteria, namely that there are numerous cleanup notices present, in this case of the {{ refimprove}} and {{ fact}} variety.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you for your work so far. — VanTucky (talk) 00:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
The first reference only shows that the term "officer" is used, so we have no reference for the assertion that it is incorrect. Why does that matter anyway? This article isn't about federal agents. The second reference, to a concurring opinion in Printz v. United States, doesn't mention "Castaneda v. USA, Case No: 2:1996cv00099, Wyoming District Court, Casper, decided 29th April 1997". Furthermore, there are sources out there which claim this case and that quote from it are a hoax. [3] [4] Until we can find a reliable source that mentions this finding we should leave this out. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
There is a disambiguation proposal template on the article. Does it predate the existing Sheriff (disambiguation) page? If not does anyone support it? I'll get rid of it if no one supports it by 3 January. - Rrius ( talk) 04:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is there a blank History Section with a main article link to a non-existent History article? - Rrius ( talk) 04:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
In most states, that would be the District Attorney... not a sheriff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.33.235.214 ( talk) 22:11, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I think Sherrif actually comes from "Shire reif" not shire reeve. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.118.49 ( talk) 01:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Then you are mistaken it actually is Shire Reeve —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.164.29.80 ( talk) 17:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Similiarities between Canada, the US and maybe other countries with English-derived justice systems probably ought to be recorded. For example: planning high security trials (a "given" for protection of justices IMO), protection of Judges and Prosecutors (doesn't have to be "crown"), managing detention cells, transport prisoners, manage and provide protection for juries, serve court-related documents, execute court orders and warrants, and assist with coroner's court (I'm guessing on this latter for the US). This was for British Columbia, but applies nearly everywhere mentioned in first sentence if worded a bit more generically. Student7 ( talk) 18:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
This section is at least ambiguous or confusing: As far as I'm aware, the Lord Mayor of London is elected and installed to the office by the people by popular vote. The contradicts with the claim that the alderman sheriff becomes the next mayor. Maybe I'm confusing the Greater London Metropolitan area with the borough of City of London? In any case, this should be clarified. 78.152.228.96 ( talk) 14:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)15-9-2012
I see that
has recently been changed to:
I thought this was vandalism, perhaps by someone trying to protest against the privatization of prisons - but maybe it was a clumsy or poorly-worded attempt to change the article to state that some prisons are now privately managed.
Other parts of the change seem correct, too; a Department of Corrections *is* sometimes called the Department of Justice, and I believe the alteration is correct in changing "coronal" to "coronial".
So I'm not sure whether to regard it as vandalism and revert it, or what.
Any thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.J.E. ( talk • contribs) 16:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
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Brandon Tsay at home in San Marino, Calif. He disarmed the gunman at the Lai Lai Ballroom & Studio on Saturday night.Credit...Mark Abramson for The New York Times Moviedefender ( talk) 00:00, 1 February 2023 (UTC)