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Neither reference 1 ( Bloodshed in the Caucasus: escalation of the armed conflict in Nagorno Karabakh) nor 2 ( Human rights and democratization in the newly independent states of the former Soviet Union) are not instantly verifiable. The good-faith acceptance of offline sources in such cases is insufficient, they should be checked closer or swapped to online sources. Also temporarily tagging for NPOV until addition of other views, particularly Azerbaijani. Brandmeister talk 21:57, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
"Essentially, GRAD is designed to deliver anti-personnel devastation on an open battlefield, while the Azerbaijani Army used it to shell civilians in a densely-populated capital of Nagorno-Karabakh. Dubbed "flying telephone poles" due to their long, shaped charges, the missiles caused devastating damage to buildings including the destruction of residential houses, schools, the city's silk factory, maternity hospital and at least one kindergarten"
Sorry, but this is nonsensical. In context, a shaped charge is a warhead using the Monroe Effect to focus the explosive pressure on a very small area of armour. In other words, a shaped charge is what a rocket carried or delivers. Few GRAD rockets were fitted with anti-tank warheads; most carried a blast-fragmentation warhead. Shaped charge warheads would not cause major damage to buildings. Blast-frag warheads would.
The GRAD rockets are on the other hand long and thin. The rocket itself, regardless of the warhead, look very much like a flying telephone pole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilde27 ( talk • contribs) 14:34, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Fixed. Periwinklewrinkles ( talk) 22:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Maidyouneed, really? Removing the Azerbaijani name for the phenomenon? --► Sincerely: Sola Virum 08:47, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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Neither reference 1 ( Bloodshed in the Caucasus: escalation of the armed conflict in Nagorno Karabakh) nor 2 ( Human rights and democratization in the newly independent states of the former Soviet Union) are not instantly verifiable. The good-faith acceptance of offline sources in such cases is insufficient, they should be checked closer or swapped to online sources. Also temporarily tagging for NPOV until addition of other views, particularly Azerbaijani. Brandmeister talk 21:57, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
"Essentially, GRAD is designed to deliver anti-personnel devastation on an open battlefield, while the Azerbaijani Army used it to shell civilians in a densely-populated capital of Nagorno-Karabakh. Dubbed "flying telephone poles" due to their long, shaped charges, the missiles caused devastating damage to buildings including the destruction of residential houses, schools, the city's silk factory, maternity hospital and at least one kindergarten"
Sorry, but this is nonsensical. In context, a shaped charge is a warhead using the Monroe Effect to focus the explosive pressure on a very small area of armour. In other words, a shaped charge is what a rocket carried or delivers. Few GRAD rockets were fitted with anti-tank warheads; most carried a blast-fragmentation warhead. Shaped charge warheads would not cause major damage to buildings. Blast-frag warheads would.
The GRAD rockets are on the other hand long and thin. The rocket itself, regardless of the warhead, look very much like a flying telephone pole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilde27 ( talk • contribs) 14:34, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Fixed. Periwinklewrinkles ( talk) 22:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Maidyouneed, really? Removing the Azerbaijani name for the phenomenon? --► Sincerely: Sola Virum 08:47, 13 February 2021 (UTC)