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I’m not going to GA review it (I don't feel qualified) but I will give you guys a quick list of things I know you need to fix before it has a chance, I speak from experience here. And this isn’t an exhaustive list, just my first glance look at it, but it’s a start MPJ-DK 10:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
From AndyZ’s Automated review tool, stuff that’s easily fixed but will stand in the way of GA
Again, MPJ-DK, thank you for this. Luckily I also have AndyZ's peer review - which makes my job a whole lot easier! :) Davnel03 11:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
It, technically, was his finisher when he was with the Rockers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.157.179.197 ( talk) 02:31, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
Why doesn't anybody mention something about the return of H.B.K. on Survivor Series?! It's True, after all! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.44.225.21 ( talk) 02:42, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
What if there's a source. Zenlax 1:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I disagree, on jeff hardys page it did say that when he was out that he was suspended for 30 days but then it said that on jeff hardys web page "the hardyshow.com" that he was only out to recover from injury that was caused by Mr Kennedy. -- Deathtopplintheir40s 12:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
anyone care to explain why the information regarding the april 23rd episode of raw was deleted? it was the episode where michaels pinned cena at the end of the near hour long match. the match is regarded as epic, and it should be mentioned. Xchickenx 10:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
If it is indeed epic, why isn't it mentioned in John Cena's article? Zenlax 6:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
i dont actually pay attention to cenas article. but i did scan it to check, and whoever contributes to his article really rushes through. and i dont know if this has relevance, but cena did job for that match, and judging by his article, the contributors want his article to appear as though cena was on a roll and unbeatable. thats probably why its not mentioned there. but check out the reference [1], it has all the information there. Xchickenx 08:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Jim Ross claimed that that was one of the best matches Michaels has ever been a part of, and i agree, that was a great match and i dont understand why it is not mentioned here, and it will be mentioned in Cenas page eventualy. But that was classed as when the "show stopper" in Michaels came back, therefor is a important part of hbk's page and his role leading up to wrestlmania 23. -- Deathtopplintheir40s 12:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I am glad to report that this article nominee for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of September 19, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. — Pursey Talk | Contribs 08:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
A while back the page said he was coming back in august, now thats come and gone and the page no longer has a return date. Now was that a wrong edit or was there ever a change of plans? and if there is a change of plans then could u put the return date on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.90.156 ( talk) 12:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
You should read the conversation on the top noting his return. Zenlax 20:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh thanks mate, haha i didnt see that. -- Deathtopplintheir40s 12:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
While the article has come a long way and a lot of good work has been put into it, the article still has a ways to go. Strangly, I received a barnstar for helping to promote this article to GA from Zenlax, yet I practically did nothing to it. In an attempt to actually earn the barnstar and more importantly, better the article, I am now in the process of copyediting it and am finding some really bad prose, poor sentence structure, overall weirdness, and a severe lack of citations. In addition I am wikifying several wrestling terms and other words which should have easily been caught and fixed before passing GA. I am also going to point out a few things that I am not sure about, so that others might be able to fix them. I normally do this in a "Pre-GA review", but since this somehow already passed, here is my "Post-GA review":
I have to go for awhile, and will continue this review a la my previous Kurt Angle multi-part review as time allows, eventually getting through the entire article. Any changes that can be made to reflect the above suggestions/issues is greatly appreciated. Please check things off (with the {{done}} tag) as they are completed. Thanks! -- Naha| (talk) 22:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I've done some more copyediting and am still working my way through the article. As usual, more input later. -- Naha| (talk) 14:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm still going at it, got one more section under my belt this evening, as seen above heh. If anyone wants to start working on any of this, please feel free to start :) More later, -- Naha| (talk) 23:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Blue, thank you so much for spending the time to take care of a lot of the problems I have mentioned above, you have done a great job. I'm still not done with this review and still have to go through the remainder of the article, but again you have made a great start. Right now this is on the backburner for me as I have a lot of other things going on, but I will finish it. Cheers, -- Naha| (talk) 00:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
It says hes is credited as himself in the movie The Heartbreak Kid can anyone confirm of deny this as a solid fact. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408839/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.25.97 ( talk) 11:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Well one way to find out. When the film comes out. Zenlax Talk Contributions
Nope, the movie's a remake. They don't need permission from the WWE I don't think, especially since Michael's and the WWE appropriated the name "Heartbreak Kid" from the original movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.151.155.142 ( talk • contribs)
Sawyer is so cute in the fact that she knows nothing about the law. First it would not be a copyright but rather a trademark in the name "Heartbreak Kid". Second, WWE has not had their application for the mark approved yet. See this website: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=oc23ak.4.1. The application was filed September 25, 2007. Of course the statutory rights are not in effect until the application is complete. (WWE may be able to claim some common law rights.) It is also not clear that movies and wrestling would overlap and afford protection from one goods or service to the other (See the above link and the goods and services applied for. I realize that WWE and movies are both entertainment but we have no proof that the USPTO would take it past wrestling entertainment.) Finally, even if the WWE had registered the mark 3 years ago the movie being a remake may still be an intermediate junior user and therefore would not need permission. 69.86.184.244 04:49, 9 October 2007 (UTC)JL
Hbk uses it in reference to Montreal Screwjob, and generally when he plays the heel role, like in the feud with Hulk Hogan at Summerslam 2005. Then Michaels is included in the list of wrestlers that used Sharpshooter, in the Sharpshooter main article. Please do not remove it. Thanks. Dave.01 23:11, 09 October 2007 (ITA)
He did apply a Sharpshooter on Randy Orton in their Survivor Series match--not to draw heat, but due to the stipulations of disqualification if he used Sweet Chin Music. He would apply other submission moves as well including the Crossface (a la Benoit, creating a stir) and Ankle Lock (a la Angle). Smobro68 ( talk) 09:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Should it be noted that Shawn Micheals is the last of the former AWA wrestlers to still be active in the WWE? At least I think he's the last, if not, I think it should be noted that he is one of the last . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 14:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Beats me. I just think it should be mentioned, as AWA was influential to the WWE in the fact that the WWE wooed most of the AWA talent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 00:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It should probably be added around the first section or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 23:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
He is the last member of the AWA still active in WWE. Hulk Hogan was also in the AWA, but he only makes his "special apperances." I don't believe there are any other superstars on the WWE roster that wrestled for the AWA before it was bought out by Vince McMahon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 05:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
On March 3, 2006, WWE announced that it had severed all professional ties with Jannetty without further explanation.
On September 15, 2006, it was announced on WWE.com that Jannetty had signed a new contract and would be returning as a veteran to work with younger talent. WWE.com also stated that Jannetty, along with two other veterans, could also be granted a full-time contract pending the success of this initial venture.
However according to Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Jannetty was rumored to have been released yet again on September 29th. Jannetty himself countered this rumor on his MySpace page, stating it was untrue. However, the January 2007 issue of WWE Magazine stated that Jannetty had been fired.
On December 22, 2006, Jannetty replied through his MySpace website, stating that it was The Boogeyman who had been fired and not returned WWE's phone calls. Jannetty insisted that the article in WWE Magazine was false. On December 24, 2006 in a blog on his website, Jim Ross stated that Marty Jannetty was no longer with WWE.
I don't look to me like Marty Jannetty works for WWE anymore. As I said, Shawn Micheals is the last of the ACTIVE AWA wrestlers. Sgt. Slaughter still does his guest appearances. So does the Hulk. The bottom line is Michaels is the last active AWA wrestler in the WWE and I think it should be noted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 17:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
He won the Belt Tonight 8/28/2007 on Cyber Sunday! He got voted for the most, and Orton got DQ'd, SO HBK IS THE NEW CHAMP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.225.21 ( talk) 02:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The only reason I won't insult you is because I must ASSUME GOOD FAITH...
1. Shawn Michaels did not win the WWE Championship tonight, because he won by disqualification. (See Professional_wrestling#Disqualification)
2. How do you not know this? Are you a wrestling fan? If not, why have you been vandalizing WP:PW articles?
Lex94 Talk Contributions Signatures 02:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
It's August now? BTW, that loud bang you heard was my head exploding. Nothing more. Mshake3 03:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
i, too, must assume good faith, but i cant help but laugh! thats pretty ignorant. Xchickenx 03:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else feel it should be removed? It adds nothing to the article and is incredibly blurry and hard to make out. Gavyn Sykes 04:04, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
If a wrestler from the United Kingdom wrestles in America for WWE such as Finlay. Who is apparently from Northern Ireland, Belfast however he is considerd American by all people who watch wrestling from the United Kingdom. It is fair to say that we can class Shawn Michaels as a ENGLISH wrestler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 ( talk) 11:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd also like to point out that this is a FACT so don't try disputing it. English people can class him as English!
And being from England I'd like to point out that I consider Finlay to be, strangely enough, Northern Irish (political complexities ignored) just like I consider HBK to be American. Tony2Times ( talk) 20:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Should it be noted that his match with John Cena on April 23rd, 2007 gained "Best Match of 2007" on WWE.com by the fans or is it not important enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.209.140.21 ( talk) 00:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Uh, then why isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.209.140.21 ( talk) 23:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Be aware, there's speculation that the Polls are rigged by WWE.com. See the article at www.nodq.com Resonanttoe ( talk) 14:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
rig or not, It's one of the most talked about and highest rated matches of the year.. 142.162.207.62 ( talk) 18:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean by that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.205.90 ( talk) 20:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why, but Shawn Michaels does not have a Wikiquote Article, so I removed the link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack Shadow ( talk • contribs) 09:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
...Any particular reason you decided to re-add it before checking, the day after I told you it wasn't there? Zack Shadow ( talk) 03:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
...And? I get it, I removed the media link by mistake, I'm sorry, but according to the revision history, on Jan 3 you re-added the WikiQuote link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack Shadow ( talk • contribs) 23:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning all the problems that Michaels' had in his early career, where he took pills etc., and had a falling out with Triple H and was fired from the WWE in 2001? Watching Heartbreak & Triumph was a real shock factor in seeing that HBK, wasnt exactly the biggest role model after his injury in 1998. Masterofdestiny ( talk) 10:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Well its close enough, he was released is that a better term, I still think it ought to be mentioned, I mean whenever other wrestler have had personal demons or alike, its been mentioned. Masterofdestiny ( talk) 8:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.82.141 ( talk)
Someone needs to edit his personal life sectin. It looks like someone discovered his last name for the first time and went crazy with it. It keeps on saying Hickenbottom blah blah blah.... Hickenbottom doo doo de da.... and just keeps on going and going. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.88.124.171 ( talk) 02:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Shawn debuted a new version of the figure four this past Monday on RAW to Trevor Murdoch by executing a feint Sweet Chin Music into the move. This should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.191.86.225 ( talk) 10:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
He used it again this week and apparently he uses it next week on Jeff Hardy. I think it's fair to say it is part of his arsenal if he continues to use it or attempts to used it week after week. (Winston Deckard) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.127.220.65 ( talk) 04:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok the move is listed on wrestling holds page as a modified figure four leglock. Should we just go with that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonDeckard ( talk • contribs) 07:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I realize there their are limitations on what pictures can be used on here, but that picture that is currently up there is horrible looking. There has to be one that better than that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.107.217.175 ( talk) 14:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
The main one above his stats and info. 75.107.217.175 ( talk) 23:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Small Text Since jerichos return, michaels started feuding with kennedy right? why doesnt anybody mention that?? 202.175.228.105 ( talk) 15:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)lordzeus
its been 2 and a half months.. add it.
142.162.191.122 ( talk) 15:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The article currently states: "He was inactive from in-ring competition from 1998-2002 due to a legitimate severe back injury." A legitimate back injury? What other kinds of severe back injuries are there? What, people are going to think it was an angle if you don't put "legitimate" in there? He was out for four years! Just call it a severe back injury and be done with it. 69.215.146.236 ( talk) 13:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Many of WWE superstars pages have not been updated. i have updated Umaga and JBL but there are HEAPS MORE!!!! Please tell everyone!!!!! 14:42 28 January 2008 (UTC)
A match at the Royal Rumble is notable. It should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.146.198 ( talk) 08:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Don't know if this helps in the notable department, but while Shawn did not win the Rumble of 2007, he and Undertaker did go a good long while as the final two before Shawn was finally eliminated. Then, in a weirdly cool irony, in 2008, they started the Rumble (Shawn drew #2) going some 30-odd minutes before eliminating Undertaker then quickly being eliminated right after by Kennedy. Smobro68 ( talk) 09:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
ok maybe not the rumble but what about the with kennedy, armeggeddon, Raw 15 century an beating trevor for spot at the rumble. its been months till this was updated!!!-- Fhassan ( talk) 21:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Except for the new submission Michael's has been using. But since I am inept at editing someone else needs to do it. WinstonDeckard ( talk) 23:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
i may not be a big influence around here, but here is a list of things that i think should be included
If you don't agree please let me know User:Edgebelow ( talk) 16:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Somebody please add the new finisher of Shawn Michaels. The Submission manuevre that looks like a Modified figure four leglock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver3 ( talk • contribs) 13:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I say we add the new submission the way it's being called in the Wrestling Holds page, which is a modified figure four. Simply for continuity purposes. WinstonDeckard ( talk) 05:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Hasn't he started using the crippler crossface as one of his finishers also? 129.67.39.147 ( talk) 14:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Icosahedron
I personally call it a "Sit-down inverted Sharpshooter" since its applied initially like a Sharpshooter but then he pulls their extended leg under his arm, pins their knee with his knee and sits down. All the same I've never seen anything like it before. SuperSonicTH ( talk) 03:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
He used the crossface on Umaga (dually with Jericho executing his Walls Of Jericho) during the Raw Elimination Chamber at No Way Out 2008. The new submission finisher was used on Lance Cade on Raw February 25, 2008. Had Trevor Murdoch not interfered causing a DQ, Shawn could have won by submission. Smobro68 ( talk) 11:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Just got a copy of Pro Wrestling Illustrated, and the Shawn Michaels vs. John Cena 4/23/07 Raw match was voted Match Of The Year. Though the runner-up listings aren't posted, but their Wrestlemania match was voted second-runner up. At one time there was a little tidbit that said he's had the most MOTY winners; the count is now 8 and no one seems close to that mark. Smobro68 ( talk) 09:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I brought this up because all of his other PWI honors are listed. Just looking for an update. Smobro68 ( talk) 11:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
HBK Has been Using the Crippler Cross Face, He used it At No Way Out in the EC And On Randy Orton At Survivor Series And a Couple Other Times, should'int be Listed?, And Another Thing i havent Seen Him Use the Lou Thesz press In a long time so i really dont think that should be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.196.73 ( talk) 07:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
as i stated on the triple h discussion page it seems a lot of people have been using the crossface in their matches, i think it might be a silent tribute to chris benoit, if you watch backlash again, i noticed, almost everymatch had a crossface applied at one point. Darcphoenix2 ( talk) 04:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey Guys i Was Reading HBK'S Page and The Last Update Was the Match With Orton which was Alittle While Ago, And With his Up Coming Match Vs Ric Flair i think that should be there i mean come on All the People who is in the Money in the Bank have it on their's And This is probly Going to be the Best Match there i think it's a little un fair not to have it there And i understand it's an upcoming thing but still the Jeff Hardy,Mr. K, Ect have it on theres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.196.73 ( talk) 01:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thats my point Sir, No Futrue events? Please Re-Read what i Said first On Jeff's Page it talks about him going in the Money in the Bank and all the other peoples pages that are in it do you get me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.196.73 ( talk • contribs)
Flair opened the challenge to Michaels for a match at Wrestlemania 24 on the February 25, 2008, edition of Raw (after a match between Shawn and Lance Cade). Shawn, citing reluctance to follow through and be the one labeled as the one who retired Flair by way of the "edict" set in motion by Vince McMahon, politely turns him down at first. Flair, citing that just because Shawn will face him does not mean it's a given that he will lose and retire, and that "all of the respect (Michaels paid Flair when announcing Flair as a Hall Of Fame inductee) means nothing if you don't give me an opportunity to have the greatest match of my career on the grandest stage of all", persuades Shawn to accept the challenge. There hasn't been much in the way of follow-up but everything seems positive about it so far. The match is also listed as on the card for Wrestlemania 24. http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/matches/6464438/preview/ Smobro68 ( talk) 12:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Then how about the Michaels-Kennedy feud which took place between past event Michaels-Orton and future event Michaels-Flair? Not trying to ruffle feathers, but the information is a little behind. Smobro68 ( talk) 08:34, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
First of all, I love to read your Wiki entry abut HBK ^^. For a bit of an addition to his wrestling moves though, I did recall him using a Frankensteiner maneuver during the mid 90's, well noted especially during his match with Owen Hart in In Your House 6: Rage in the Cage and the British Bulldog in King of the Ring 1996. Unless I missed it (my apologies in advance), I couldn't find it in your list.
In addition again, it is also worth noting that when using the skin the cat, he would sometimes combine it with a head scissors to throw his opponents out of the ring (in case they're close when Shawn is in the process of rotating his body backwards) before completing the maneuver to go back into the ring. For reference, some of the events when he used this maneuver was in Survivor Series 1995, King of the Ring 1996, and Wrestlemania 19. Darkness Fatale ( talk) 13:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
he appeared on smackdown last week for the first time since 1999 - which was as a special referee on the debut episode, and last week was the first time he ever actually wrestled on the brand, now i think that deserves a mention —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.28.195 ( talk) 03:06, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
It would be important because HBK hasn't been on smackdown for years and rare appearances are valuable so I think it should be mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by BestBenoitFan ( talk • contribs) 06:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Anyone think The Man should be listed in HBK's nicknames? Kirby17 ( talk) 16:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I know. I just wanted to know what you guys thought. Kirby17 ( talk) 21:28, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I think shawn micheals should be WWE champ and face tripleH for it. Than Shawn keeps the title by beating tripleH. And shawn should get in phisical shape. for a Triple threat match. And Shawn could beat the great the reterning The rock.
Brendan Shipton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.63.119.87 ( talk) 23:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not actually watching RAW, but I read a report that HBK refered to himself as "The Man" Kirby17 ( talk) 01:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Now is a signature move of Michaels, please add it. -- KingOfDX ( talk) 21:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, he used it last night, but is it still notable that he will continue using it? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Backlash has past a long time ago. shouldnt they add something about his match with batista? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.188.58 ( talk) 11:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Shawn guest refereed a match between H and Darkside Hayabusa, FMW 11.23.99 Special —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.226.174 ( talk) 21:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
It was during his temporary retirement —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.226.174 ( talk) 14:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
No, it was a one time appearance, though still notable because of it's surprising nature, and unexpectedness —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.226.174 ( talk) 17:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Middleeasternfilms ( talk) 18:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Shawn Michaels has many ring names such as HBK, The Heart Break Kid, The Show Stopper,and The Main Event. Sean Michaels is not one of them but Sean Michaels is the only ring name on the profile and it won't let me edit the page. Shavon.roberts ( talk)SMGR Shavon.roberts ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok Michaels's page has to be edited soon to include information about his rivalry with Batista and Chris Jericho's added involvement. His story seems to end with the Wrestlemania match vs. Ric Flair but that is not all. A lot has happened since then. Jdog3628 ( talk) 19:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Jdog3628
What about those quick flurries of snap jabs (usually followed by a knockdown punch, I believe) Michaels often does? 69.23.151.9 ( talk) 15:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
was the nickname "Heart break Kid" coined because of the feud (that he ultimately won) between him and Bret Hart? after all, HBK did "break" Hart's WWE career. Altenhofen ( talk) 00:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
The 4 figure leg lock of HBK is called Heart Breaker.IF someone could put it cuz I cannot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.205.2.198 ( talk) 14:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
here is the source [2]
The French Wikipedia can't be used as a source... RandySavageFTW ( talk) 19:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Don't any long time fans remember how back around 1992-1993, Michaels would often do a top-rope clothesline in his matches? Why isn't it here? For that matter, what about the fast left-handed jabs following by a right hand he used to do? 69.23.151.9 ( talk) 18:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't recall him ever performing this in recent times. Plus, the move is banned from the WWE as far as I know. Should it be listed as a regular move from 1995 to, say, 2004? I would think he stopped using it somewhere in there, but I don't know. Cale ( talk) 06:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The article says nothing about his time between leaving the WWF and returning. That shouldn't be skipped over. Mr. C.C. ( talk) 17:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
nothing about how HBK basically oversold that match with Hulk Hogan? i'm sure i read something about it here before, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.183.123 ( talk) 12:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Michaels is injured. I was there and when he fell out of the ring at a house show he looked like he tore something I went on numerous websites and it has said the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.60.221.121 ( talk) 22:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
http://fans.wwe.com/jimross/blog jr says he tore his tricep —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.115.30 ( talk) 01:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Shawn Micheals is currently inactive due to injured triceps. although not torn he is still taking time off for them to recover. Do you think that it is valid infomation. Mvpisthebest ( talk) 09:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Cited source says it was their RR match, not the Raw one. [ [3]] says just "Raw," but they had two Raw matches in 1993... RandySavageFTW ( talk) 23:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
So is Accelerator not a reliable source? It's pretty confusing how I've seen all 3 of their '93 matches referred to as the PWI MOTY. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 23:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
You should cite that one then, since the cited one still says RR... I think the one that says 5/17/93 looks the most reliable, so I'll just forget this. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 00:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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No Mercy, Shawn Michaels wrestled Jericho again, but this time for the
World Heavyweight Championship in a ladder match. However, Michaels lost after Jericho strucked him with the title belt. He then entered a feud with
JBL beginning at
Cyber Sunday when JBL attacked him after interfering the world championship match between Chris Jericho & Batista. --
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21:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
shawn micheals may have turned heel on monday night raw. he assepted jbls offer. i know this is not a week by week thing but when can we add more info about shawn micheals about hos feud with jbl because it is getting quite significent with hbk career. this could be done with oter superstars and divas from the wwe. Mvpisbetterthanyou ( talk) 07:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
He's not heel, it's the crisis, it's all part of the storyline, hbk appeared with triple h on a christmas thing as DX The Master Of All Wolves ( talk) 17:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
the page says that professional wrestling is a theatrical event combined with competition..how is it competive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.46.89 ( talk) 17:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
I happen to agree with Mvpisbetterthanyou. HBK is bordering on becoming at least a tweener and is receiving boos from the audience. This is notable. Cheers_Dude ( talk) 04:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok! I can agree with that. Cheers! =) Cheers_Dude ( talk) 11:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
He is more a tweener at this point in time than a heel. He is still facing heels in matches and acting like a babayface. Defacto he is a tweener for being a face working for a heel.-- Will C 11:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else feel that the opening of this article is too massive and contains a lot of information that belongs in the body of the article. In my opinion, the opening should be rather short and give a summary on what you'll be reading made into 2 or 3 short paragraphs at most. The opening of this article contains way too much info in my opinion. Thoughts? Cheers_Dude ( talk) 18:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
user ThinkBlue has said that the Ladder match being Shawn Michael's specialty is POV. Hasn't the WWE stated numerous times that the Ladder match is Shawn Michael's specialty? Cheers_Dude ( talk) 03:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Not looking for your stance on the issue. We obviously disagree. I'm hoping for a comment from a third party. Also, my edits not belonging in the opening was a silly comment to add into an edit summary given that half of that stuff doesn't belong in the opening. : / Cheers_Dude ( talk) 04:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough! Per this consensus, I shall step back on the Ladder match being specialty. Wasn't aware of that Truco. Thank you. Also, WillC, you're point was kind of effective. I mean, I haven't really seen him in many Ladder Matches other than the first one. Mainly, I was just going by Jericho's behavior towrds HBK in their last fued in which he kept acting as if it was HBK's specialty, acting jealous that HBK got more credit than he did. But again, that's just him so that doesn't necessarily make it his specialty. Just thought it be something interesting to note in the article.
I do not however agree that the Lead looks appropriate. I truly feel that it is way too massive and a lot of that stuff should be removed into the approriate places in the body of the paragraph, but that looks like a lot of work to do and although I'd love to do it, I wouldn't want to go to all the trouble if it would all be reverted and judging from ThinkBlue's comments, she's willing to do just that so I'll just leave it alone. Thank you, all three of you! =) Cheers_Dude ( talk) 10:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
He's been in more than two ladder matches. Regardless! As I just said in my last post, I'm fine with not having the Ladder match info and I'm not going to work on the lead seeing as how the many revisions that I think are desperately needed could be reverted. Done! Cheers_Dude ( talk) 17:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
In WWF Super WrestleMania, Shawn uses a suplex in which he places his opponent in a vertical suplex position, but then turns them to their side before dropping them. I can't find any other place that shows him using this move... or even that the move exists. Can someone help me find this and thus find whether or not it's appropriate to add to the article. -- Darth Mike (Talk• Contribs) 18:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Why isn't there any mention about the tattoo of his daughter's name on his left arm,right next to Cameron?[ Video Of Micheals getting tattoo] -- Krazyj2010 ( talk) 21:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)krazyj2010
I tried finding the pics on WWE.com and couldn't find it,but it does show the tattoo.I will try and do some more research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krazyj2010 ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Here is the url of HBK getting his daughter's name tattooed under the tattoo he has for his boy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLYEWgInw9Q —Preceding
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I've finnaly updated the page, it was about 6MM out of date. ←Kala jan→ 21:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, it's over now. Update please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.213.138 ( talk) 18:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it is over. Something needs to be done. Mrpengo88 ( talk) 18:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
In reference to:
Then he began pursuing a career in professional wrestling, a type of sports entertainment in which theatrical events are combined with a competitive sport.
I think the descriptive of professional wrestling at the end of that sentence is unnecessary. There is a link to the professional wrestling wiki article in the second line of this page. If professional wrestling needs to be explained in this article about Shawn Michaels, it needs to be done prior to this point. Ztheday ( talk) 20:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Why are some of the wrestler names written in plain text and immediately followed by their real name linked to their wiki page? But in other cases they are not. This is inconsistent. I'd prefer to see the wrestler name used with a link to their wiki. A wrestler's real name is not important to this article per se. A few exceptions may exist (i.e. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, etc.) Ztheday ( talk) 20:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
"This group of wrestlers were known for their sophomoric crude humor." should be changed to "This group of wrestlers WAS known for their sophomoric crude humor." —Preceding unsigned comment added by PatNeedham ( talk • contribs) 17:40, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know,those always confuse me,WERE sounds good to me though,because of "Wrestler(s)" so I'm pretty sure it's right.-- Krazyj2010 ( talk) 18:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
It should be "was" because the group is the noun (subject) and "of wrestlers" is a preposition —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.250.92 ( talk) 22:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Let's get to it. It's been going on through PPVs, so it belongs here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.213.138 ( talk) 19:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Something NEEDS to be done! He's already turned heel and then face again and that's not notable?? Mrpengo88 ( talk) 06:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
The feud is OVER now is the time to add something. Mrpengo88 ( talk) 19:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone have definitive evidence that he was CONSISTENTLY under contract to the WWE during this period? Sure, he made a few appearances, but this may have been on a pay-per-appearance basis. I've read several articles saying that he was not under contract to anyone for much of this time and even considering a move to WCW. Does anyone actually know what his contract status with the WWE was at this time? It's clearly relevant to the article as it implies that he's been contracted since 1987 without a break. 89.168.223.102 ( talk) 21:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
In order to achieve consistency in this article (in line with various other professional wrestling pages), there needs to be several key modifications: 1. 1995-1997 should not be titled "The Clique's influence". This is far too prejudicial, and not even relevant, as the clique disbanded in early 1996. A far more suitable title would be "Rise to the Mainevent". The timeframe shoudl be extended to 1995-1998, as he was active on the roster (as an in-ring performer) until march 1998. 2. Additionally he should be acknowledged as commissioner from 1998-2000 (not 1998-99). 3. His contract status should be clearly mentioned: Michaels signed the WWF/E's first 'downside' guaranteed money contract in March 1996 for 750,000 a year, which lasted 5 years. In 2001 he signed a 5 year contract extension with the intention of returning to in-ring wrestling at Wrestlemania 17. However, due to substance abuse issues, this never occured, but the contract stood intact. In 2006, he signed a new 5 year deal for 1.5 million a year. 4. The same detail and analysis used in Bret Hart's and Ric Flair's introduction should be used for Michaels. He has received more Prowrestling Illustrated Match of the Year awards then any other Pro Wrestler. And Vince McMahon has, on numerous occasions, described Michaels as "the greatest in-ring performer of all time". I would be more then happy to provide references for this (both Michaels DVD Heartbreak and Truimph, and a 2002 press release). The same vivid discription used in Hart's introduction, describing his monikers and his favourable legacy, should be applied to Michaels. A 2005 quote from Vince McMahon is utilised in Bret Hart's introduction, describing Bret as "the greatest storyteller of all time". Michaels, based on his accolades, tenure, body of work and the fame/success he has achieved in modern Pro Wrestling history, deserves the same lofty treatment. No questions asked.
(There are numerous other references and quotes from co-workers and officials that refer to Michaels as the greatest athlete in WWE History. These con-workers and officials include, Triple H, CM Punk, Chris Jericho, Jim Ross, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, Michael PS Hayes, Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson and numerous others)
Without these details/corrections/facts, this article is flimsy, biased and inaccurate.
He also ended the streak of vladimir kozlov to earn the right to try to kill the Undertakers wrestlemainai 16-0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.90.233 ( talk) 01:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the update! But would the Taker vs Micheals at WM be notable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpengo88 ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
So Michaels never had a World Championship Ladder Match? Huh, that's funny I coulda sworn he did. And I'm pretty sure he had a Last Man Standing match with Jericho too to end the feud and in that match JBL hit him with a chair costing him the match which bridged the rivalry with Jericho to the rivalry with JBL at Survivor Series onwards. In fact I was so sure of it I found links on wwe.com and SLAM! Sports that supported the fact and added it into the article. But apparently I either made it up or a World Championship match isn't noteable enough because it was deleted. Not edited, just out and out deleted. Tony2Times ( talk) 01:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
With the "Mr. Wrestlemania" title being laid on Shawn Michaels in his upcoming match challenging The Undertaker's 16-0 streak, would it be appropriate for the Shawn Michaels Wikipedia page to have a "Mr. Wrestlemania" section -- much like Undertaker's "streak" section -- simply giving the matches in which he's participated, his opponent in those matches, the victor, any titles that changed hands, and any accolades (Match of the Year, etc) that the match received? Dapolla ( talk) 12:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Mabey but WWE also now reconizes HBK's Mr. Wrestlemania status! I mean just listen to the announcers and they'll say it themselves "No one has every out performed Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 ( talk) 00:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
The feud did not end at Unforgiven. They had another match at another PPV and it was a ladder match and it was for the world title; why does nobody add it? (I tried but it was deleted for having too much detail) Then they had a Last Man Standing match where JBL hit Michaels with a chair transitioning his feud from one to the other. It happened back in November, it's not week by week information. Tony2Times ( talk) 16:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
what about the sharpshooter he uses that everyonce in awhile at least he used to someone should put that in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.173.6.154 ( talk) 20:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
As part of the storyline involving Ric Flair, Michaels faced Flair in a Career Threatening match at WrestleMania XXIV
That's it? Really? I know there's a limit to what you can add, but seriously I think everyone knows one or two more sentences that can be added. And I also think that the various feuds section can be split into 2, but thats not as big of a deal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.16.166 ( talk) 04:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
In order to achieve consistency in this article (in line with various other professional wrestling pages), there needs to be several key modifications: 1. 1995-1997 should not be titled "The Clique's influence". This is far too prejudicial, and not even relevant, as the clique disbanded in early 1996. A far more suitable title would be "Rise to the Mainevent". The timeframe shoudl be extended to 1995-1998, as he was active on the roster (as an in-ring performer) until march 1998. 2. Additionally he should be acknowledged as commissioner from 1998-2000 (not 1998-99). 3. His contract status should be clearly mentioned: Michaels signed the WWF/E's first 'downside' guaranteed money contract in March 1996 for 750,000 a year, which lasted 5 years. In 2001 he signed a 5 year contract extension with the intention of returning to in-ring wrestling at Wrestlemania 17. However, due to substance abuse issues, this never occured, but the contract stood intact. In 2006, he signed a new 5 year deal for 1.5 million a year. 4. The same detail and analysis used in Bret Hart's and Ric Flair's introduction should be used for Michaels. He has received more Prowrestling Illustrated Match of the Year awards then any other Pro Wrestler. And Vince McMahon has, on numerous occasions, described Michaels as "the greatest in-ring performer of all time". I would be more then happy to provide references for this (both Michaels DVD Heartbreak and Truimph, and a 2002 press release). The same vivid discription used in Hart's introduction, describing his monikers and his favourable legacy, should be applied to Michaels. A 2005 quote from Vince McMahon is utilised in Bret Hart's introduction, describing Bret as "the greatest storyteller of all time". Michaels, based on his accolades, tenure, body of work and the fame/success he has achieved in modern Pro Wrestling history, deserves the same lofty treatment. No questions asked.
(There are numerous other references and quotes from co-workers and officials that refer to Michaels as the greatest athlete in WWE History. These con-workers and officials include, Triple H, CM Punk, Chris Jericho, Jim Ross, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, Michael PS Hayes, Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson and numerous others)
Without these details/corrections/facts, this article is flimsy, biased and inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JQCT ( talk • contribs) 07:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I have tried numerous times to put on this page that Shawn michaels is currently inactive, yet it is constantly deleted. There are numerous sites and magazines that state this, and the fact that he is not participating at the moment in WWE is an OBVIOUS fact tht he is taking time off. If my attempts are going to continually be deleted, PLEASE will someone else put it on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.31.173.239 ( talk) 13:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
He is not wrestling at the moment. How can it not be notable that he is inactive? It's obvious that he is. I agree however that there has been no comfirmed news that he is injured but he is NOT wrestling at the moment. I rely on Wikipedia to give up to date information, yet michaels has been out since Wrestlemania 25 and nothing has been updated to the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.27.58.145 ( talk) 12:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC) Still there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.28.160.74 ( talk) 16:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but he is either "active" or "inactive". If he isn't wrestling (and he is not wrestling at the moment) then he is inactive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rev Edward Brain, D.D. ( talk • contribs)
Has he ever been billed as HBK or Heart Break Kid or 'The Heart Break Kid' or anything like that? I'm surprised to see it absent on the data, was it really only ever a nick name? Tyciol ( talk) 05:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Usually its "From San Antonio, Texas weighing 225 pounds. The HeartBreak Kid, Shawn Michaels" Not just "HBK" or "The Heartbreak Kid" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrissytina515 ( talk • contribs) 06:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually, he was billed once as just "The Heartbreak Kid". It was during the 2008 Royal Rumble match by Michael Buffer (he was the guest ring announcer for the event). Buffer announced him as "Entry number two, HBK - The Heartbreak Kid". Don't think it's that important to be honest, just thought I'd mention it. 86.42.241.178 ( talk) 13:01, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
The various feuds section has grown too long - way too long. Couldn't it be divided in
-- Senkris ( talk) 13:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
The section would be better off divided into
-- 81.157.126.162 ( talk) 04:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Definatly at the vary least add the Return of DX part because that seems to be on a permanet basis now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk) 15:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
What the hell? ITS TIME TO UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Undertakers page has more detail than Shawn's!! And they have been doing similar things. what the hell? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk • contribs)
Why do you guys keep taking out Shawn Michaels feud of the year with HHH in 2004,while listing his feud of the year with Jericho in 2008, and taking out his two 5 star matches he had with the Undertaker in hell in a cell and with Razor Ramon in wrestlemania 10? Those are parts of his accomplishments with a link to the page showing that he won it so why do you guys keep removing it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.179.151 ( talk • contribs)
Alright, I'm new to Wikipedia so I got no clue how to change this, but `He has large support groups and has an Official Youtube Fan Support page is http://www.youtube.com/user/hbk281923` Added by Hbk281923 is not official. I don't know how to edit Semi-Protected pages, so can someone edit it when they have the time? :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Shawn_Michaels&diff=318620862&oldid=318463803 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acidburn08 ( talk • contribs) 09:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I have been considering adding a new section Return of D-Generation-X, due to this being the return of one of the most popular teams ever. Just to add, this is no longer Various feuds. Please answer-- The Celtic Cross (talk) 14:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Come on already! He just won the Tag Titles again. I think that warrants a new section for this incarnation of DX! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk) 06:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it notable that Shawn has more Slammy's than any other wrestler? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk) 08:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
It's starting to get seriously annoying that every wrestling article on wikipedia needs to explain what wrestling is and that it's theatre...if you're on a wikipedia article for Shawn Michaels, you either know that, or you can take two seconds to read the article on professional wrestling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.238.203 ( talk) 09:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Every article about a football player doesn't state that "football is a game played with an odd-shaped ball which players use to reach an 'end zone' in order to score points. The team with the most points at the end of a football 'contest' wins." If somebody started adding that to every article about a football player, it would start to get very, very annoying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.238.203 ( talk) 09:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
We are talking about one being complete fiction and the other be somewhat fiction. They are not the samething and this is not the place to discuss that. IN-U is a guideline we should follow with all wrestling articles. PPVs are no longer deeply in depth on wrestling. It is better than it was when it began. Be happy they changed. Articles should be more encyclopedic and teach the reader. Not be a fanish in wrestling universe only article for news. Anyway, this is not the place at all to discuss PPV format. This is about Michaels.-- Will C 09:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay so the part that is incorrect is the second paragraph under The Heartbreak Kid (1992–1995. Specifically "Michaels failed to win the WWF Intercontinental Championship from Bret Hart in July 1992, even losing against him at a live event in the WWF's first-ever ladder match." That however, quoted from his book is incorrect on many levels. First until their ironman match at wrestlemania IX the two have never fought except in tag team. Secondly the first-ever ladder match was between Michaels and Ramon not hart. Also in 1992 Hart already had the WWF title not the intercontintental title. So those entire two lines are falsified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HBKfan1 ( talk • contribs) 22:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The first ever ladder match was Hart vs Michaels at a house show in the summer of 1992 when Bret was Intercontinental Champion. Fact. Bret didn't win the WWF heavyweight championship until October 1992. They had the ladder match in early July just before Summerslam when Hart lost to Davey Boy Smith in England. Its in both Bret's and Michaels' books, I've watched it plenty of times. They wrestled numerous times before the Iron Man Match including a cage match in 1992, tag matches at house shows, and singles matches at house shows during 1992-1994. Bret wrestled Michaels in the main even at Survivor Series 1992. Its included the the WWE DVD: Greatest Stars of the 1990s.
THIS IS INCORRECT: THEY WRESTLED THE FIRST LADDER MATCH IN JULY 1992 AT A HOUSE SHOW. I'VE SEEN IT MANY TIMES AS WELL AS READ ABOUT IT. BRET WAS INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMP UNTIL SUMMERSLAM 1992. THEY ALSO WRESTLED A CAGE MATCH IN THE SUMMER OF 1992, AND WHEN BRET WON THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN OCTOBER OF 1992, HE WRESTLED MICHAELS AT SURVIVOR SERIES 1992 IN THE MAIN EVENT. THEY WRESTLED AT NUMEROUS HOUSE SHOWS AND ON WWF SUPERSTARS BEFORE WRESTLEMANIA 10. ALSO, THE IRON MAN MATCH WAS AT WRESTLEMANIA 12, NOT 9.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.137 ( talk • contribs)
Shawn Michaels won the 2009 match of the year award by PWI Trucrypt ( talk) 18:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
PWI 2009 Year End issue that just came on sale. January 2010 issue. http://www.pwi-online.com/ Trucrypt ( talk) 02:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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I’m not going to GA review it (I don't feel qualified) but I will give you guys a quick list of things I know you need to fix before it has a chance, I speak from experience here. And this isn’t an exhaustive list, just my first glance look at it, but it’s a start MPJ-DK 10:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
From AndyZ’s Automated review tool, stuff that’s easily fixed but will stand in the way of GA
Again, MPJ-DK, thank you for this. Luckily I also have AndyZ's peer review - which makes my job a whole lot easier! :) Davnel03 11:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
It, technically, was his finisher when he was with the Rockers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.157.179.197 ( talk) 02:31, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
Why doesn't anybody mention something about the return of H.B.K. on Survivor Series?! It's True, after all! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.44.225.21 ( talk) 02:42, August 22, 2007 (UTC)
What if there's a source. Zenlax 1:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I disagree, on jeff hardys page it did say that when he was out that he was suspended for 30 days but then it said that on jeff hardys web page "the hardyshow.com" that he was only out to recover from injury that was caused by Mr Kennedy. -- Deathtopplintheir40s 12:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
anyone care to explain why the information regarding the april 23rd episode of raw was deleted? it was the episode where michaels pinned cena at the end of the near hour long match. the match is regarded as epic, and it should be mentioned. Xchickenx 10:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
If it is indeed epic, why isn't it mentioned in John Cena's article? Zenlax 6:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
i dont actually pay attention to cenas article. but i did scan it to check, and whoever contributes to his article really rushes through. and i dont know if this has relevance, but cena did job for that match, and judging by his article, the contributors want his article to appear as though cena was on a roll and unbeatable. thats probably why its not mentioned there. but check out the reference [1], it has all the information there. Xchickenx 08:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Jim Ross claimed that that was one of the best matches Michaels has ever been a part of, and i agree, that was a great match and i dont understand why it is not mentioned here, and it will be mentioned in Cenas page eventualy. But that was classed as when the "show stopper" in Michaels came back, therefor is a important part of hbk's page and his role leading up to wrestlmania 23. -- Deathtopplintheir40s 12:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I am glad to report that this article nominee for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of September 19, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. — Pursey Talk | Contribs 08:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
A while back the page said he was coming back in august, now thats come and gone and the page no longer has a return date. Now was that a wrong edit or was there ever a change of plans? and if there is a change of plans then could u put the return date on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.90.156 ( talk) 12:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
You should read the conversation on the top noting his return. Zenlax 20:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh thanks mate, haha i didnt see that. -- Deathtopplintheir40s 12:35, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
While the article has come a long way and a lot of good work has been put into it, the article still has a ways to go. Strangly, I received a barnstar for helping to promote this article to GA from Zenlax, yet I practically did nothing to it. In an attempt to actually earn the barnstar and more importantly, better the article, I am now in the process of copyediting it and am finding some really bad prose, poor sentence structure, overall weirdness, and a severe lack of citations. In addition I am wikifying several wrestling terms and other words which should have easily been caught and fixed before passing GA. I am also going to point out a few things that I am not sure about, so that others might be able to fix them. I normally do this in a "Pre-GA review", but since this somehow already passed, here is my "Post-GA review":
I have to go for awhile, and will continue this review a la my previous Kurt Angle multi-part review as time allows, eventually getting through the entire article. Any changes that can be made to reflect the above suggestions/issues is greatly appreciated. Please check things off (with the {{done}} tag) as they are completed. Thanks! -- Naha| (talk) 22:13, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I've done some more copyediting and am still working my way through the article. As usual, more input later. -- Naha| (talk) 14:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm still going at it, got one more section under my belt this evening, as seen above heh. If anyone wants to start working on any of this, please feel free to start :) More later, -- Naha| (talk) 23:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Blue, thank you so much for spending the time to take care of a lot of the problems I have mentioned above, you have done a great job. I'm still not done with this review and still have to go through the remainder of the article, but again you have made a great start. Right now this is on the backburner for me as I have a lot of other things going on, but I will finish it. Cheers, -- Naha| (talk) 00:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
It says hes is credited as himself in the movie The Heartbreak Kid can anyone confirm of deny this as a solid fact. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408839/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.25.97 ( talk) 11:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Well one way to find out. When the film comes out. Zenlax Talk Contributions
Nope, the movie's a remake. They don't need permission from the WWE I don't think, especially since Michael's and the WWE appropriated the name "Heartbreak Kid" from the original movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.151.155.142 ( talk • contribs)
Sawyer is so cute in the fact that she knows nothing about the law. First it would not be a copyright but rather a trademark in the name "Heartbreak Kid". Second, WWE has not had their application for the mark approved yet. See this website: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=oc23ak.4.1. The application was filed September 25, 2007. Of course the statutory rights are not in effect until the application is complete. (WWE may be able to claim some common law rights.) It is also not clear that movies and wrestling would overlap and afford protection from one goods or service to the other (See the above link and the goods and services applied for. I realize that WWE and movies are both entertainment but we have no proof that the USPTO would take it past wrestling entertainment.) Finally, even if the WWE had registered the mark 3 years ago the movie being a remake may still be an intermediate junior user and therefore would not need permission. 69.86.184.244 04:49, 9 October 2007 (UTC)JL
Hbk uses it in reference to Montreal Screwjob, and generally when he plays the heel role, like in the feud with Hulk Hogan at Summerslam 2005. Then Michaels is included in the list of wrestlers that used Sharpshooter, in the Sharpshooter main article. Please do not remove it. Thanks. Dave.01 23:11, 09 October 2007 (ITA)
He did apply a Sharpshooter on Randy Orton in their Survivor Series match--not to draw heat, but due to the stipulations of disqualification if he used Sweet Chin Music. He would apply other submission moves as well including the Crossface (a la Benoit, creating a stir) and Ankle Lock (a la Angle). Smobro68 ( talk) 09:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Should it be noted that Shawn Micheals is the last of the former AWA wrestlers to still be active in the WWE? At least I think he's the last, if not, I think it should be noted that he is one of the last . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 14:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Beats me. I just think it should be mentioned, as AWA was influential to the WWE in the fact that the WWE wooed most of the AWA talent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 00:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It should probably be added around the first section or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 23:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
He is the last member of the AWA still active in WWE. Hulk Hogan was also in the AWA, but he only makes his "special apperances." I don't believe there are any other superstars on the WWE roster that wrestled for the AWA before it was bought out by Vince McMahon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 05:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
On March 3, 2006, WWE announced that it had severed all professional ties with Jannetty without further explanation.
On September 15, 2006, it was announced on WWE.com that Jannetty had signed a new contract and would be returning as a veteran to work with younger talent. WWE.com also stated that Jannetty, along with two other veterans, could also be granted a full-time contract pending the success of this initial venture.
However according to Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Jannetty was rumored to have been released yet again on September 29th. Jannetty himself countered this rumor on his MySpace page, stating it was untrue. However, the January 2007 issue of WWE Magazine stated that Jannetty had been fired.
On December 22, 2006, Jannetty replied through his MySpace website, stating that it was The Boogeyman who had been fired and not returned WWE's phone calls. Jannetty insisted that the article in WWE Magazine was false. On December 24, 2006 in a blog on his website, Jim Ross stated that Marty Jannetty was no longer with WWE.
I don't look to me like Marty Jannetty works for WWE anymore. As I said, Shawn Micheals is the last of the ACTIVE AWA wrestlers. Sgt. Slaughter still does his guest appearances. So does the Hulk. The bottom line is Michaels is the last active AWA wrestler in the WWE and I think it should be noted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.177.39 ( talk) 17:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
He won the Belt Tonight 8/28/2007 on Cyber Sunday! He got voted for the most, and Orton got DQ'd, SO HBK IS THE NEW CHAMP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.225.21 ( talk) 02:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The only reason I won't insult you is because I must ASSUME GOOD FAITH...
1. Shawn Michaels did not win the WWE Championship tonight, because he won by disqualification. (See Professional_wrestling#Disqualification)
2. How do you not know this? Are you a wrestling fan? If not, why have you been vandalizing WP:PW articles?
Lex94 Talk Contributions Signatures 02:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
It's August now? BTW, that loud bang you heard was my head exploding. Nothing more. Mshake3 03:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
i, too, must assume good faith, but i cant help but laugh! thats pretty ignorant. Xchickenx 03:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else feel it should be removed? It adds nothing to the article and is incredibly blurry and hard to make out. Gavyn Sykes 04:04, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
If a wrestler from the United Kingdom wrestles in America for WWE such as Finlay. Who is apparently from Northern Ireland, Belfast however he is considerd American by all people who watch wrestling from the United Kingdom. It is fair to say that we can class Shawn Michaels as a ENGLISH wrestler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 ( talk) 11:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd also like to point out that this is a FACT so don't try disputing it. English people can class him as English!
And being from England I'd like to point out that I consider Finlay to be, strangely enough, Northern Irish (political complexities ignored) just like I consider HBK to be American. Tony2Times ( talk) 20:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Should it be noted that his match with John Cena on April 23rd, 2007 gained "Best Match of 2007" on WWE.com by the fans or is it not important enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.209.140.21 ( talk) 00:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Uh, then why isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.209.140.21 ( talk) 23:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Be aware, there's speculation that the Polls are rigged by WWE.com. See the article at www.nodq.com Resonanttoe ( talk) 14:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
rig or not, It's one of the most talked about and highest rated matches of the year.. 142.162.207.62 ( talk) 18:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean by that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.205.90 ( talk) 20:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why, but Shawn Michaels does not have a Wikiquote Article, so I removed the link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack Shadow ( talk • contribs) 09:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
...Any particular reason you decided to re-add it before checking, the day after I told you it wasn't there? Zack Shadow ( talk) 03:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
...And? I get it, I removed the media link by mistake, I'm sorry, but according to the revision history, on Jan 3 you re-added the WikiQuote link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack Shadow ( talk • contribs) 23:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning all the problems that Michaels' had in his early career, where he took pills etc., and had a falling out with Triple H and was fired from the WWE in 2001? Watching Heartbreak & Triumph was a real shock factor in seeing that HBK, wasnt exactly the biggest role model after his injury in 1998. Masterofdestiny ( talk) 10:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Well its close enough, he was released is that a better term, I still think it ought to be mentioned, I mean whenever other wrestler have had personal demons or alike, its been mentioned. Masterofdestiny ( talk) 8:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.82.141 ( talk)
Someone needs to edit his personal life sectin. It looks like someone discovered his last name for the first time and went crazy with it. It keeps on saying Hickenbottom blah blah blah.... Hickenbottom doo doo de da.... and just keeps on going and going. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.88.124.171 ( talk) 02:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Shawn debuted a new version of the figure four this past Monday on RAW to Trevor Murdoch by executing a feint Sweet Chin Music into the move. This should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.191.86.225 ( talk) 10:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
He used it again this week and apparently he uses it next week on Jeff Hardy. I think it's fair to say it is part of his arsenal if he continues to use it or attempts to used it week after week. (Winston Deckard) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.127.220.65 ( talk) 04:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok the move is listed on wrestling holds page as a modified figure four leglock. Should we just go with that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinstonDeckard ( talk • contribs) 07:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I realize there their are limitations on what pictures can be used on here, but that picture that is currently up there is horrible looking. There has to be one that better than that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.107.217.175 ( talk) 14:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
The main one above his stats and info. 75.107.217.175 ( talk) 23:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Small Text Since jerichos return, michaels started feuding with kennedy right? why doesnt anybody mention that?? 202.175.228.105 ( talk) 15:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)lordzeus
its been 2 and a half months.. add it.
142.162.191.122 ( talk) 15:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The article currently states: "He was inactive from in-ring competition from 1998-2002 due to a legitimate severe back injury." A legitimate back injury? What other kinds of severe back injuries are there? What, people are going to think it was an angle if you don't put "legitimate" in there? He was out for four years! Just call it a severe back injury and be done with it. 69.215.146.236 ( talk) 13:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Many of WWE superstars pages have not been updated. i have updated Umaga and JBL but there are HEAPS MORE!!!! Please tell everyone!!!!! 14:42 28 January 2008 (UTC)
A match at the Royal Rumble is notable. It should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.146.198 ( talk) 08:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Don't know if this helps in the notable department, but while Shawn did not win the Rumble of 2007, he and Undertaker did go a good long while as the final two before Shawn was finally eliminated. Then, in a weirdly cool irony, in 2008, they started the Rumble (Shawn drew #2) going some 30-odd minutes before eliminating Undertaker then quickly being eliminated right after by Kennedy. Smobro68 ( talk) 09:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
ok maybe not the rumble but what about the with kennedy, armeggeddon, Raw 15 century an beating trevor for spot at the rumble. its been months till this was updated!!!-- Fhassan ( talk) 21:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Except for the new submission Michael's has been using. But since I am inept at editing someone else needs to do it. WinstonDeckard ( talk) 23:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
i may not be a big influence around here, but here is a list of things that i think should be included
If you don't agree please let me know User:Edgebelow ( talk) 16:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Somebody please add the new finisher of Shawn Michaels. The Submission manuevre that looks like a Modified figure four leglock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oliver3 ( talk • contribs) 13:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I say we add the new submission the way it's being called in the Wrestling Holds page, which is a modified figure four. Simply for continuity purposes. WinstonDeckard ( talk) 05:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Hasn't he started using the crippler crossface as one of his finishers also? 129.67.39.147 ( talk) 14:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Icosahedron
I personally call it a "Sit-down inverted Sharpshooter" since its applied initially like a Sharpshooter but then he pulls their extended leg under his arm, pins their knee with his knee and sits down. All the same I've never seen anything like it before. SuperSonicTH ( talk) 03:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
He used the crossface on Umaga (dually with Jericho executing his Walls Of Jericho) during the Raw Elimination Chamber at No Way Out 2008. The new submission finisher was used on Lance Cade on Raw February 25, 2008. Had Trevor Murdoch not interfered causing a DQ, Shawn could have won by submission. Smobro68 ( talk) 11:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Just got a copy of Pro Wrestling Illustrated, and the Shawn Michaels vs. John Cena 4/23/07 Raw match was voted Match Of The Year. Though the runner-up listings aren't posted, but their Wrestlemania match was voted second-runner up. At one time there was a little tidbit that said he's had the most MOTY winners; the count is now 8 and no one seems close to that mark. Smobro68 ( talk) 09:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I brought this up because all of his other PWI honors are listed. Just looking for an update. Smobro68 ( talk) 11:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
HBK Has been Using the Crippler Cross Face, He used it At No Way Out in the EC And On Randy Orton At Survivor Series And a Couple Other Times, should'int be Listed?, And Another Thing i havent Seen Him Use the Lou Thesz press In a long time so i really dont think that should be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.196.73 ( talk) 07:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
as i stated on the triple h discussion page it seems a lot of people have been using the crossface in their matches, i think it might be a silent tribute to chris benoit, if you watch backlash again, i noticed, almost everymatch had a crossface applied at one point. Darcphoenix2 ( talk) 04:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey Guys i Was Reading HBK'S Page and The Last Update Was the Match With Orton which was Alittle While Ago, And With his Up Coming Match Vs Ric Flair i think that should be there i mean come on All the People who is in the Money in the Bank have it on their's And This is probly Going to be the Best Match there i think it's a little un fair not to have it there And i understand it's an upcoming thing but still the Jeff Hardy,Mr. K, Ect have it on theres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.196.73 ( talk) 01:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thats my point Sir, No Futrue events? Please Re-Read what i Said first On Jeff's Page it talks about him going in the Money in the Bank and all the other peoples pages that are in it do you get me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.196.73 ( talk • contribs)
Flair opened the challenge to Michaels for a match at Wrestlemania 24 on the February 25, 2008, edition of Raw (after a match between Shawn and Lance Cade). Shawn, citing reluctance to follow through and be the one labeled as the one who retired Flair by way of the "edict" set in motion by Vince McMahon, politely turns him down at first. Flair, citing that just because Shawn will face him does not mean it's a given that he will lose and retire, and that "all of the respect (Michaels paid Flair when announcing Flair as a Hall Of Fame inductee) means nothing if you don't give me an opportunity to have the greatest match of my career on the grandest stage of all", persuades Shawn to accept the challenge. There hasn't been much in the way of follow-up but everything seems positive about it so far. The match is also listed as on the card for Wrestlemania 24. http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/matches/6464438/preview/ Smobro68 ( talk) 12:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Then how about the Michaels-Kennedy feud which took place between past event Michaels-Orton and future event Michaels-Flair? Not trying to ruffle feathers, but the information is a little behind. Smobro68 ( talk) 08:34, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
First of all, I love to read your Wiki entry abut HBK ^^. For a bit of an addition to his wrestling moves though, I did recall him using a Frankensteiner maneuver during the mid 90's, well noted especially during his match with Owen Hart in In Your House 6: Rage in the Cage and the British Bulldog in King of the Ring 1996. Unless I missed it (my apologies in advance), I couldn't find it in your list.
In addition again, it is also worth noting that when using the skin the cat, he would sometimes combine it with a head scissors to throw his opponents out of the ring (in case they're close when Shawn is in the process of rotating his body backwards) before completing the maneuver to go back into the ring. For reference, some of the events when he used this maneuver was in Survivor Series 1995, King of the Ring 1996, and Wrestlemania 19. Darkness Fatale ( talk) 13:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
he appeared on smackdown last week for the first time since 1999 - which was as a special referee on the debut episode, and last week was the first time he ever actually wrestled on the brand, now i think that deserves a mention —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.28.195 ( talk) 03:06, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
It would be important because HBK hasn't been on smackdown for years and rare appearances are valuable so I think it should be mentioned —Preceding unsigned comment added by BestBenoitFan ( talk • contribs) 06:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Anyone think The Man should be listed in HBK's nicknames? Kirby17 ( talk) 16:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I know. I just wanted to know what you guys thought. Kirby17 ( talk) 21:28, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I think shawn micheals should be WWE champ and face tripleH for it. Than Shawn keeps the title by beating tripleH. And shawn should get in phisical shape. for a Triple threat match. And Shawn could beat the great the reterning The rock.
Brendan Shipton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.63.119.87 ( talk) 23:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not actually watching RAW, but I read a report that HBK refered to himself as "The Man" Kirby17 ( talk) 01:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Now is a signature move of Michaels, please add it. -- KingOfDX ( talk) 21:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, he used it last night, but is it still notable that he will continue using it? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Backlash has past a long time ago. shouldnt they add something about his match with batista? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.188.58 ( talk) 11:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Shawn guest refereed a match between H and Darkside Hayabusa, FMW 11.23.99 Special —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.226.174 ( talk) 21:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
It was during his temporary retirement —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.226.174 ( talk) 14:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
No, it was a one time appearance, though still notable because of it's surprising nature, and unexpectedness —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.226.174 ( talk) 17:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Middleeasternfilms ( talk) 18:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Shawn Michaels has many ring names such as HBK, The Heart Break Kid, The Show Stopper,and The Main Event. Sean Michaels is not one of them but Sean Michaels is the only ring name on the profile and it won't let me edit the page. Shavon.roberts ( talk)SMGR Shavon.roberts ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok Michaels's page has to be edited soon to include information about his rivalry with Batista and Chris Jericho's added involvement. His story seems to end with the Wrestlemania match vs. Ric Flair but that is not all. A lot has happened since then. Jdog3628 ( talk) 19:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Jdog3628
What about those quick flurries of snap jabs (usually followed by a knockdown punch, I believe) Michaels often does? 69.23.151.9 ( talk) 15:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
was the nickname "Heart break Kid" coined because of the feud (that he ultimately won) between him and Bret Hart? after all, HBK did "break" Hart's WWE career. Altenhofen ( talk) 00:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
The 4 figure leg lock of HBK is called Heart Breaker.IF someone could put it cuz I cannot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.205.2.198 ( talk) 14:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
here is the source [2]
The French Wikipedia can't be used as a source... RandySavageFTW ( talk) 19:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Don't any long time fans remember how back around 1992-1993, Michaels would often do a top-rope clothesline in his matches? Why isn't it here? For that matter, what about the fast left-handed jabs following by a right hand he used to do? 69.23.151.9 ( talk) 18:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't recall him ever performing this in recent times. Plus, the move is banned from the WWE as far as I know. Should it be listed as a regular move from 1995 to, say, 2004? I would think he stopped using it somewhere in there, but I don't know. Cale ( talk) 06:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The article says nothing about his time between leaving the WWF and returning. That shouldn't be skipped over. Mr. C.C. ( talk) 17:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
nothing about how HBK basically oversold that match with Hulk Hogan? i'm sure i read something about it here before, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.183.123 ( talk) 12:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Michaels is injured. I was there and when he fell out of the ring at a house show he looked like he tore something I went on numerous websites and it has said the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.60.221.121 ( talk) 22:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
http://fans.wwe.com/jimross/blog jr says he tore his tricep —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.115.30 ( talk) 01:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Shawn Micheals is currently inactive due to injured triceps. although not torn he is still taking time off for them to recover. Do you think that it is valid infomation. Mvpisthebest ( talk) 09:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Cited source says it was their RR match, not the Raw one. [ [3]] says just "Raw," but they had two Raw matches in 1993... RandySavageFTW ( talk) 23:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
So is Accelerator not a reliable source? It's pretty confusing how I've seen all 3 of their '93 matches referred to as the PWI MOTY. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 23:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
You should cite that one then, since the cited one still says RR... I think the one that says 5/17/93 looks the most reliable, so I'll just forget this. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 00:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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At
No Mercy, Shawn Michaels wrestled Jericho again, but this time for the
World Heavyweight Championship in a ladder match. However, Michaels lost after Jericho strucked him with the title belt. He then entered a feud with
JBL beginning at
Cyber Sunday when JBL attacked him after interfering the world championship match between Chris Jericho & Batista. --
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shawn micheals may have turned heel on monday night raw. he assepted jbls offer. i know this is not a week by week thing but when can we add more info about shawn micheals about hos feud with jbl because it is getting quite significent with hbk career. this could be done with oter superstars and divas from the wwe. Mvpisbetterthanyou ( talk) 07:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
He's not heel, it's the crisis, it's all part of the storyline, hbk appeared with triple h on a christmas thing as DX The Master Of All Wolves ( talk) 17:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
the page says that professional wrestling is a theatrical event combined with competition..how is it competive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.46.89 ( talk) 17:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
I happen to agree with Mvpisbetterthanyou. HBK is bordering on becoming at least a tweener and is receiving boos from the audience. This is notable. Cheers_Dude ( talk) 04:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok! I can agree with that. Cheers! =) Cheers_Dude ( talk) 11:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
He is more a tweener at this point in time than a heel. He is still facing heels in matches and acting like a babayface. Defacto he is a tweener for being a face working for a heel.-- Will C 11:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else feel that the opening of this article is too massive and contains a lot of information that belongs in the body of the article. In my opinion, the opening should be rather short and give a summary on what you'll be reading made into 2 or 3 short paragraphs at most. The opening of this article contains way too much info in my opinion. Thoughts? Cheers_Dude ( talk) 18:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
user ThinkBlue has said that the Ladder match being Shawn Michael's specialty is POV. Hasn't the WWE stated numerous times that the Ladder match is Shawn Michael's specialty? Cheers_Dude ( talk) 03:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Not looking for your stance on the issue. We obviously disagree. I'm hoping for a comment from a third party. Also, my edits not belonging in the opening was a silly comment to add into an edit summary given that half of that stuff doesn't belong in the opening. : / Cheers_Dude ( talk) 04:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough! Per this consensus, I shall step back on the Ladder match being specialty. Wasn't aware of that Truco. Thank you. Also, WillC, you're point was kind of effective. I mean, I haven't really seen him in many Ladder Matches other than the first one. Mainly, I was just going by Jericho's behavior towrds HBK in their last fued in which he kept acting as if it was HBK's specialty, acting jealous that HBK got more credit than he did. But again, that's just him so that doesn't necessarily make it his specialty. Just thought it be something interesting to note in the article.
I do not however agree that the Lead looks appropriate. I truly feel that it is way too massive and a lot of that stuff should be removed into the approriate places in the body of the paragraph, but that looks like a lot of work to do and although I'd love to do it, I wouldn't want to go to all the trouble if it would all be reverted and judging from ThinkBlue's comments, she's willing to do just that so I'll just leave it alone. Thank you, all three of you! =) Cheers_Dude ( talk) 10:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
He's been in more than two ladder matches. Regardless! As I just said in my last post, I'm fine with not having the Ladder match info and I'm not going to work on the lead seeing as how the many revisions that I think are desperately needed could be reverted. Done! Cheers_Dude ( talk) 17:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
In WWF Super WrestleMania, Shawn uses a suplex in which he places his opponent in a vertical suplex position, but then turns them to their side before dropping them. I can't find any other place that shows him using this move... or even that the move exists. Can someone help me find this and thus find whether or not it's appropriate to add to the article. -- Darth Mike (Talk• Contribs) 18:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Why isn't there any mention about the tattoo of his daughter's name on his left arm,right next to Cameron?[ Video Of Micheals getting tattoo] -- Krazyj2010 ( talk) 21:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)krazyj2010
I tried finding the pics on WWE.com and couldn't find it,but it does show the tattoo.I will try and do some more research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krazyj2010 ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Here is the url of HBK getting his daughter's name tattooed under the tattoo he has for his boy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLYEWgInw9Q —Preceding
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I've finnaly updated the page, it was about 6MM out of date. ←Kala jan→ 21:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, it's over now. Update please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.213.138 ( talk) 18:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it is over. Something needs to be done. Mrpengo88 ( talk) 18:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
In reference to:
Then he began pursuing a career in professional wrestling, a type of sports entertainment in which theatrical events are combined with a competitive sport.
I think the descriptive of professional wrestling at the end of that sentence is unnecessary. There is a link to the professional wrestling wiki article in the second line of this page. If professional wrestling needs to be explained in this article about Shawn Michaels, it needs to be done prior to this point. Ztheday ( talk) 20:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Why are some of the wrestler names written in plain text and immediately followed by their real name linked to their wiki page? But in other cases they are not. This is inconsistent. I'd prefer to see the wrestler name used with a link to their wiki. A wrestler's real name is not important to this article per se. A few exceptions may exist (i.e. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, etc.) Ztheday ( talk) 20:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
"This group of wrestlers were known for their sophomoric crude humor." should be changed to "This group of wrestlers WAS known for their sophomoric crude humor." —Preceding unsigned comment added by PatNeedham ( talk • contribs) 17:40, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know,those always confuse me,WERE sounds good to me though,because of "Wrestler(s)" so I'm pretty sure it's right.-- Krazyj2010 ( talk) 18:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
It should be "was" because the group is the noun (subject) and "of wrestlers" is a preposition —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.250.92 ( talk) 22:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Let's get to it. It's been going on through PPVs, so it belongs here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.213.138 ( talk) 19:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Something NEEDS to be done! He's already turned heel and then face again and that's not notable?? Mrpengo88 ( talk) 06:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
The feud is OVER now is the time to add something. Mrpengo88 ( talk) 19:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone have definitive evidence that he was CONSISTENTLY under contract to the WWE during this period? Sure, he made a few appearances, but this may have been on a pay-per-appearance basis. I've read several articles saying that he was not under contract to anyone for much of this time and even considering a move to WCW. Does anyone actually know what his contract status with the WWE was at this time? It's clearly relevant to the article as it implies that he's been contracted since 1987 without a break. 89.168.223.102 ( talk) 21:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
In order to achieve consistency in this article (in line with various other professional wrestling pages), there needs to be several key modifications: 1. 1995-1997 should not be titled "The Clique's influence". This is far too prejudicial, and not even relevant, as the clique disbanded in early 1996. A far more suitable title would be "Rise to the Mainevent". The timeframe shoudl be extended to 1995-1998, as he was active on the roster (as an in-ring performer) until march 1998. 2. Additionally he should be acknowledged as commissioner from 1998-2000 (not 1998-99). 3. His contract status should be clearly mentioned: Michaels signed the WWF/E's first 'downside' guaranteed money contract in March 1996 for 750,000 a year, which lasted 5 years. In 2001 he signed a 5 year contract extension with the intention of returning to in-ring wrestling at Wrestlemania 17. However, due to substance abuse issues, this never occured, but the contract stood intact. In 2006, he signed a new 5 year deal for 1.5 million a year. 4. The same detail and analysis used in Bret Hart's and Ric Flair's introduction should be used for Michaels. He has received more Prowrestling Illustrated Match of the Year awards then any other Pro Wrestler. And Vince McMahon has, on numerous occasions, described Michaels as "the greatest in-ring performer of all time". I would be more then happy to provide references for this (both Michaels DVD Heartbreak and Truimph, and a 2002 press release). The same vivid discription used in Hart's introduction, describing his monikers and his favourable legacy, should be applied to Michaels. A 2005 quote from Vince McMahon is utilised in Bret Hart's introduction, describing Bret as "the greatest storyteller of all time". Michaels, based on his accolades, tenure, body of work and the fame/success he has achieved in modern Pro Wrestling history, deserves the same lofty treatment. No questions asked.
(There are numerous other references and quotes from co-workers and officials that refer to Michaels as the greatest athlete in WWE History. These con-workers and officials include, Triple H, CM Punk, Chris Jericho, Jim Ross, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, Michael PS Hayes, Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson and numerous others)
Without these details/corrections/facts, this article is flimsy, biased and inaccurate.
He also ended the streak of vladimir kozlov to earn the right to try to kill the Undertakers wrestlemainai 16-0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.90.233 ( talk) 01:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the update! But would the Taker vs Micheals at WM be notable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpengo88 ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
So Michaels never had a World Championship Ladder Match? Huh, that's funny I coulda sworn he did. And I'm pretty sure he had a Last Man Standing match with Jericho too to end the feud and in that match JBL hit him with a chair costing him the match which bridged the rivalry with Jericho to the rivalry with JBL at Survivor Series onwards. In fact I was so sure of it I found links on wwe.com and SLAM! Sports that supported the fact and added it into the article. But apparently I either made it up or a World Championship match isn't noteable enough because it was deleted. Not edited, just out and out deleted. Tony2Times ( talk) 01:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
With the "Mr. Wrestlemania" title being laid on Shawn Michaels in his upcoming match challenging The Undertaker's 16-0 streak, would it be appropriate for the Shawn Michaels Wikipedia page to have a "Mr. Wrestlemania" section -- much like Undertaker's "streak" section -- simply giving the matches in which he's participated, his opponent in those matches, the victor, any titles that changed hands, and any accolades (Match of the Year, etc) that the match received? Dapolla ( talk) 12:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Mabey but WWE also now reconizes HBK's Mr. Wrestlemania status! I mean just listen to the announcers and they'll say it themselves "No one has every out performed Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 ( talk) 00:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
The feud did not end at Unforgiven. They had another match at another PPV and it was a ladder match and it was for the world title; why does nobody add it? (I tried but it was deleted for having too much detail) Then they had a Last Man Standing match where JBL hit Michaels with a chair transitioning his feud from one to the other. It happened back in November, it's not week by week information. Tony2Times ( talk) 16:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
what about the sharpshooter he uses that everyonce in awhile at least he used to someone should put that in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.173.6.154 ( talk) 20:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
As part of the storyline involving Ric Flair, Michaels faced Flair in a Career Threatening match at WrestleMania XXIV
That's it? Really? I know there's a limit to what you can add, but seriously I think everyone knows one or two more sentences that can be added. And I also think that the various feuds section can be split into 2, but thats not as big of a deal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.16.166 ( talk) 04:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
In order to achieve consistency in this article (in line with various other professional wrestling pages), there needs to be several key modifications: 1. 1995-1997 should not be titled "The Clique's influence". This is far too prejudicial, and not even relevant, as the clique disbanded in early 1996. A far more suitable title would be "Rise to the Mainevent". The timeframe shoudl be extended to 1995-1998, as he was active on the roster (as an in-ring performer) until march 1998. 2. Additionally he should be acknowledged as commissioner from 1998-2000 (not 1998-99). 3. His contract status should be clearly mentioned: Michaels signed the WWF/E's first 'downside' guaranteed money contract in March 1996 for 750,000 a year, which lasted 5 years. In 2001 he signed a 5 year contract extension with the intention of returning to in-ring wrestling at Wrestlemania 17. However, due to substance abuse issues, this never occured, but the contract stood intact. In 2006, he signed a new 5 year deal for 1.5 million a year. 4. The same detail and analysis used in Bret Hart's and Ric Flair's introduction should be used for Michaels. He has received more Prowrestling Illustrated Match of the Year awards then any other Pro Wrestler. And Vince McMahon has, on numerous occasions, described Michaels as "the greatest in-ring performer of all time". I would be more then happy to provide references for this (both Michaels DVD Heartbreak and Truimph, and a 2002 press release). The same vivid discription used in Hart's introduction, describing his monikers and his favourable legacy, should be applied to Michaels. A 2005 quote from Vince McMahon is utilised in Bret Hart's introduction, describing Bret as "the greatest storyteller of all time". Michaels, based on his accolades, tenure, body of work and the fame/success he has achieved in modern Pro Wrestling history, deserves the same lofty treatment. No questions asked.
(There are numerous other references and quotes from co-workers and officials that refer to Michaels as the greatest athlete in WWE History. These con-workers and officials include, Triple H, CM Punk, Chris Jericho, Jim Ross, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle, Michael PS Hayes, Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson and numerous others)
Without these details/corrections/facts, this article is flimsy, biased and inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JQCT ( talk • contribs) 07:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I have tried numerous times to put on this page that Shawn michaels is currently inactive, yet it is constantly deleted. There are numerous sites and magazines that state this, and the fact that he is not participating at the moment in WWE is an OBVIOUS fact tht he is taking time off. If my attempts are going to continually be deleted, PLEASE will someone else put it on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.31.173.239 ( talk) 13:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
He is not wrestling at the moment. How can it not be notable that he is inactive? It's obvious that he is. I agree however that there has been no comfirmed news that he is injured but he is NOT wrestling at the moment. I rely on Wikipedia to give up to date information, yet michaels has been out since Wrestlemania 25 and nothing has been updated to the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.27.58.145 ( talk) 12:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC) Still there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.28.160.74 ( talk) 16:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but he is either "active" or "inactive". If he isn't wrestling (and he is not wrestling at the moment) then he is inactive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rev Edward Brain, D.D. ( talk • contribs)
Has he ever been billed as HBK or Heart Break Kid or 'The Heart Break Kid' or anything like that? I'm surprised to see it absent on the data, was it really only ever a nick name? Tyciol ( talk) 05:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Usually its "From San Antonio, Texas weighing 225 pounds. The HeartBreak Kid, Shawn Michaels" Not just "HBK" or "The Heartbreak Kid" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrissytina515 ( talk • contribs) 06:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually, he was billed once as just "The Heartbreak Kid". It was during the 2008 Royal Rumble match by Michael Buffer (he was the guest ring announcer for the event). Buffer announced him as "Entry number two, HBK - The Heartbreak Kid". Don't think it's that important to be honest, just thought I'd mention it. 86.42.241.178 ( talk) 13:01, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
The various feuds section has grown too long - way too long. Couldn't it be divided in
-- Senkris ( talk) 13:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
The section would be better off divided into
-- 81.157.126.162 ( talk) 04:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Definatly at the vary least add the Return of DX part because that seems to be on a permanet basis now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk) 15:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
What the hell? ITS TIME TO UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Undertakers page has more detail than Shawn's!! And they have been doing similar things. what the hell? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk • contribs)
Why do you guys keep taking out Shawn Michaels feud of the year with HHH in 2004,while listing his feud of the year with Jericho in 2008, and taking out his two 5 star matches he had with the Undertaker in hell in a cell and with Razor Ramon in wrestlemania 10? Those are parts of his accomplishments with a link to the page showing that he won it so why do you guys keep removing it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.179.151 ( talk • contribs)
Alright, I'm new to Wikipedia so I got no clue how to change this, but `He has large support groups and has an Official Youtube Fan Support page is http://www.youtube.com/user/hbk281923` Added by Hbk281923 is not official. I don't know how to edit Semi-Protected pages, so can someone edit it when they have the time? :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Shawn_Michaels&diff=318620862&oldid=318463803 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acidburn08 ( talk • contribs) 09:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I have been considering adding a new section Return of D-Generation-X, due to this being the return of one of the most popular teams ever. Just to add, this is no longer Various feuds. Please answer-- The Celtic Cross (talk) 14:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Come on already! He just won the Tag Titles again. I think that warrants a new section for this incarnation of DX! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk) 06:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it notable that Shawn has more Slammy's than any other wrestler? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.201.91 ( talk) 08:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
It's starting to get seriously annoying that every wrestling article on wikipedia needs to explain what wrestling is and that it's theatre...if you're on a wikipedia article for Shawn Michaels, you either know that, or you can take two seconds to read the article on professional wrestling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.238.203 ( talk) 09:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Every article about a football player doesn't state that "football is a game played with an odd-shaped ball which players use to reach an 'end zone' in order to score points. The team with the most points at the end of a football 'contest' wins." If somebody started adding that to every article about a football player, it would start to get very, very annoying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.238.203 ( talk) 09:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
We are talking about one being complete fiction and the other be somewhat fiction. They are not the samething and this is not the place to discuss that. IN-U is a guideline we should follow with all wrestling articles. PPVs are no longer deeply in depth on wrestling. It is better than it was when it began. Be happy they changed. Articles should be more encyclopedic and teach the reader. Not be a fanish in wrestling universe only article for news. Anyway, this is not the place at all to discuss PPV format. This is about Michaels.-- Will C 09:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay so the part that is incorrect is the second paragraph under The Heartbreak Kid (1992–1995. Specifically "Michaels failed to win the WWF Intercontinental Championship from Bret Hart in July 1992, even losing against him at a live event in the WWF's first-ever ladder match." That however, quoted from his book is incorrect on many levels. First until their ironman match at wrestlemania IX the two have never fought except in tag team. Secondly the first-ever ladder match was between Michaels and Ramon not hart. Also in 1992 Hart already had the WWF title not the intercontintental title. So those entire two lines are falsified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HBKfan1 ( talk • contribs) 22:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The first ever ladder match was Hart vs Michaels at a house show in the summer of 1992 when Bret was Intercontinental Champion. Fact. Bret didn't win the WWF heavyweight championship until October 1992. They had the ladder match in early July just before Summerslam when Hart lost to Davey Boy Smith in England. Its in both Bret's and Michaels' books, I've watched it plenty of times. They wrestled numerous times before the Iron Man Match including a cage match in 1992, tag matches at house shows, and singles matches at house shows during 1992-1994. Bret wrestled Michaels in the main even at Survivor Series 1992. Its included the the WWE DVD: Greatest Stars of the 1990s.
THIS IS INCORRECT: THEY WRESTLED THE FIRST LADDER MATCH IN JULY 1992 AT A HOUSE SHOW. I'VE SEEN IT MANY TIMES AS WELL AS READ ABOUT IT. BRET WAS INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMP UNTIL SUMMERSLAM 1992. THEY ALSO WRESTLED A CAGE MATCH IN THE SUMMER OF 1992, AND WHEN BRET WON THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN OCTOBER OF 1992, HE WRESTLED MICHAELS AT SURVIVOR SERIES 1992 IN THE MAIN EVENT. THEY WRESTLED AT NUMEROUS HOUSE SHOWS AND ON WWF SUPERSTARS BEFORE WRESTLEMANIA 10. ALSO, THE IRON MAN MATCH WAS AT WRESTLEMANIA 12, NOT 9.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.137 ( talk • contribs)
Shawn Michaels won the 2009 match of the year award by PWI Trucrypt ( talk) 18:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
PWI 2009 Year End issue that just came on sale. January 2010 issue. http://www.pwi-online.com/ Trucrypt ( talk) 02:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)