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I removed the claim that Long was a left-wing populist an editor restored with an editorial from The Atlantic as a source.
[1] That doesn't count as a reliable source. Ironically, the writer sees Donald Trump as a successor to Long. Most reliable sources say either Long combined left and right wing elements (Berlet, Chip. Lyones, Matthew Nemiroff. Right-wing populism in America: too close for comfort, p. 125) or was categorically right wing (Lipset, Seymour Martin. Raab, Earl. The politics of unreason: right wing extremism in America, 1790–1970, pp. 194-199.) There have been since discussion as
Talk:Fascism.
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talk) 15:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
This is historical revisionism at its finest. Huey Long is quite literally the single most prominent left-wing populist in American history and there are an abundance of sources in the last 80 years demonstrating this. His program was a direct challenge at FDR from the left, not the right, and that’s generally acknowledged by pretty much everyone. See the discussion at
Talk:Huey_Long#"Left", where it was pretty uniformly decided he was left-wing. This is not denied on the left or the right from what I can tell. ToaNidhiki05 15:46, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
And this was just with a five-minute Google search. ToaNidhiki05 16:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Berlet & Lyons say in their book that Long combined left and right-wing elements, not that Long was left-wing. The nest source, Moley, does not say Long was left-wing. On of the best sources.
Seynmour Martin Lipset and Earl Raab in The politics of unreason: right wing extremism in America, 1790–1970,pp. 194-199, clearly identify him as right-wing. Even if your other sources were acceptable, you would still have to admit that there was no consensus that Long was a man of the left. Right-wing demagogues don't get magically transformed into leftists once they have been disgraced.
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talk) 16:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The articles in The Week[3], The Telegraph[6], Haaretz[9] and Politico[10] do not say Long was left-wing, could you please remove them.
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talk) 17:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Such views are a minority. Long is widely viewed as the foremost left-wing populist and one who shifted and pressured FDR from the left-wing. Identitying him as right-wing is patently absurd and ahistorical.
The Week mentions his ideology as a radical form of the left-wing Populist Party’s ideology. The Telegraph specifically includes him as among the left-wing populists by including his image several times. Hareetz notes his platform shifted FDR to the left. Politico does not say “left-wing populism”, but that is because it assumes all populism to be left-wing, hence how it describes Trump as the “right-wing version of populism”. I see no reason to remove any of them. ToaNidhiki05 18:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the
United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
I removed the claim that Long was a left-wing populist an editor restored with an editorial from The Atlantic as a source.
[1] That doesn't count as a reliable source. Ironically, the writer sees Donald Trump as a successor to Long. Most reliable sources say either Long combined left and right wing elements (Berlet, Chip. Lyones, Matthew Nemiroff. Right-wing populism in America: too close for comfort, p. 125) or was categorically right wing (Lipset, Seymour Martin. Raab, Earl. The politics of unreason: right wing extremism in America, 1790–1970, pp. 194-199.) There have been since discussion as
Talk:Fascism.
TFD (
talk) 15:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
This is historical revisionism at its finest. Huey Long is quite literally the single most prominent left-wing populist in American history and there are an abundance of sources in the last 80 years demonstrating this. His program was a direct challenge at FDR from the left, not the right, and that’s generally acknowledged by pretty much everyone. See the discussion at
Talk:Huey_Long#"Left", where it was pretty uniformly decided he was left-wing. This is not denied on the left or the right from what I can tell. ToaNidhiki05 15:46, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
And this was just with a five-minute Google search. ToaNidhiki05 16:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Berlet & Lyons say in their book that Long combined left and right-wing elements, not that Long was left-wing. The nest source, Moley, does not say Long was left-wing. On of the best sources.
Seynmour Martin Lipset and Earl Raab in The politics of unreason: right wing extremism in America, 1790–1970,pp. 194-199, clearly identify him as right-wing. Even if your other sources were acceptable, you would still have to admit that there was no consensus that Long was a man of the left. Right-wing demagogues don't get magically transformed into leftists once they have been disgraced.
TFD (
talk) 16:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The articles in The Week[3], The Telegraph[6], Haaretz[9] and Politico[10] do not say Long was left-wing, could you please remove them.
TFD (
talk) 17:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Such views are a minority. Long is widely viewed as the foremost left-wing populist and one who shifted and pressured FDR from the left-wing. Identitying him as right-wing is patently absurd and ahistorical.
The Week mentions his ideology as a radical form of the left-wing Populist Party’s ideology. The Telegraph specifically includes him as among the left-wing populists by including his image several times. Hareetz notes his platform shifted FDR to the left. Politico does not say “left-wing populism”, but that is because it assumes all populism to be left-wing, hence how it describes Trump as the “right-wing version of populism”. I see no reason to remove any of them. ToaNidhiki05 18:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)reply