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I am tempted to move this to Shannon Airport, since that seems to be a much more common name. Objections? -- Sekicho 17:45, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
I agree. Zoney 18:03, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Anybody following this? The Gardai are banning people from outside shannon from coming to protest. They have given out passes to residents and recorded car number plates. They have also gone door to door asking people's views on Bush and whether they intend to protest. Very police-stateish. Seabhcan 11:33, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Surely the historical use of the Shannon Estuary for flying boats should be mentioned. Does anybody know about it? -- Red King 00:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
When did this start? What are its conditions of operation? Legal/Diplomatic status? Are there any other airports world-wide with the same facility? Do US-INS staff regard it as an award posting or a punishment posting? What is the extent of non-Irish use? (I met someone from Edinburgh who found she got a far better and less hasslesome deal by flying to the US via Shannon rather than via Heathrow. She especially appreciated being able to walk past the three hour lines at JFK. -- Red King 09:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
The article says that Judge Macken "is due to give a judgement in April/May 2005". Any update? -- Red King 21:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Judgement due 9 Dec 2005, delay probably due to Judge Macken's appointment to the Supreme Court. See main article which has been updated. Dowlingm 23:26, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Judgement re-scheduled in the last minute (again!) to Tuesday, December 13. Once it's made public I can contribute to a few articles here on Irish foreign policy, Shannon Airport, Irish law, and the so-called "war on terrorism".
The "Forign military at Shannon" section seems rather one sided and opinionated. It would be more apt for an encyclopedia reporting facts, to do just that and report all facts relevant to an issue.
This article was in need of a rework and I have made a start on this today. Some text has been amended to ensure neutral point of view, non-encyclopedic content has been removed and trivia items have been integrated into appropriate sections of the article itself. The lead section contained too much information which was already contained in the article itself and has been moved / removed appropriately. Please feel free to continue to improve this article with your own edits. Thanks. SempreVolando ( talk) 19:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I accept that the list may have been too long, and the option unrealistic for other airports but could the list perhaps be represented in paragraph form, or similar, as there are some points to be made from it (especially with regard to decline in status).
There are three different spellings for the Irish name of Shannon Airport. The infobox spells it as Aerfort na Sionnainne. The logo spells it as Aerfort na Sionainne. And the first line of the article says it is Aerfort na Sionna. So does anybody know which is it?? 86.43.67.204 ( talk) 14:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe flights by Shamrock Express to Lansing are charters rather than scheduled flights. Does anyone have any source to suggest otherwise ? Pmbma ( talk) 19:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma
I removed Shamrock express. This is a tour company that comes along and says they are going to offer service to Shannon beginning Summer 08. In March 08 they cancel saying they hope to begin service the following year. Their website is still under construction [2] (1 year later). There does not appear to be much information about Kenny Tours on the internet, there does not appear to be much information about Shamrock Express on the internet. It seems like they also tried to start service out of Niagara Falls but that also did not work out. -- T*85 ( talk) 18:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
The discussion below was on User talk:88.81.104.106 but I have moved it here because it is a more appropriate place.-- A bit iffy ( talk) 16:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Does Shamrock Express really offer scheduled flights to Shannon, as opposed to charter flights ? Just because a flight-only package can be purchased from an airline does not make it a scheduled flight. Do you have a source for this ? Pmbma ( talk) 18:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma
What I heard from my relatives, is that it will be a scheduled 2 or 3 flights a week service operated for the summer months.
I do not wish to doubt on anything your relatives have said - it is entirely possible that they are 100% correct. However, for information to be on wikipedia, it needs not only to be correct, but also to be independently verifiable by a 3rd party. If it's not verifiable, it shouldn't be on wikipedia. Pmbma ( talk) 19:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability
The coordinates need the following fixes: 52.701978,-8.924817 Write here
85.201.128.95 ( talk) 20:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I know that this route was operated seasonally for a while now but is this route ending indefintely or is it still operating seasonally? 74.183.173.237 ( talk) 22:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
What heading should the fact that Volga-Dnepr Airlines have a maintenace facility here go under? ShaneMc2010 ( talk) 21:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
I would put it under Facilities and with a sub heading (Maintence Facilities). Jamie2k9 (talk) 22:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
The article says "The first Air Services Agreement with the United States in 1945 only permitted flights to Shannon, and only permitted Irish airlines to serve Boston, Chicago and New York." I guess he meant US airlines were allowed at Shannon but not elsewhere in Ireland, and Irish airlines were allowed at Boston-Chicago-NY but not elsewhere in the US? As it stands, it could mean US airlines weren't allowed to fly from SNN to BOS etc. Tim Zukas ( talk) 16:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Another tidbit: 1950s transatlantic flights were sometimes scheduled to stop at SNN for fuel, but not for passengers-- and with favorable winds they might be able to skip SNN. It seems that such a flight wasn't allowed to use Irish airspace at all. Anybody else heard of that? Tim Zukas ( talk) 16:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
As you have not added anything about it I added it and you deleted it I would like a reason why you are censoring a public website — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.246 ( talk) 15:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Seasonal suspension of Aer Lingus' transatlantic routes
The information therein needs to be reformulated, since it now occurred in the past. Either that or removed altogether; Transatlantic flights having been suspended a year or two ago from the airport, isn't really encyclopedic knowledge for its article, is it ? -- 205.167.7.125 ( talk) 09:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
If you find any references for charter flights operating at SNN please add them as it can be hard to find out if charters are still running. Please remove any charters that are no longer running. Thanks, Vg31-irl ( talk) 15:32, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
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Travel Service Airlines is shown as a passenger airline, with destinations Marseille and CDG. However, there is no mention of that airline in the referenced source, and the article on Travel Service Airlines makes no mention of any SNN operations. Can someone clarify what's happening?-- A bit iffy ( talk) 00:44, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Someone put a hidden message in the destinations section not to put BA LCY in the table.
I do not see a discussion here for such restriction. BA LCY should be put in but with a notation that only passengers between LCY and JFK are carried. Vanguard10 ( talk) 05:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Just querying the opening sentence of the article: Shannon Airport (Irish: Aerfort na Sionna) (IATA: SNN, ICAO: EINN) is one of Ireland's three primary airports
. This sounds quite odd to me, given that three are 2-3 other airports, namely Belfast International, Belfast City and maybe also City of Derry, which are indisputably in Ireland, and are in the same league of "primacy" as Dublin, Cork and Shannon. Of course, I know there is a lot of controversy around these sorts of topics, and I know that Irish people don't like the term "Republic of Ireland" for their country, preferring simply "Ireland", which is understandable. On the other hand, however, few would dispute that Belfast and Derry are in Ireland (albeit not in the nation state called Ireland). Is there a better way we could word this? Thanks —
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I have difficulty with the addition by User:StairySky added here and his similar edit on Dermot Ahern. I have severe doubts if these additions are in the best interest of the articles at hand and seems to be overblown/out of scope of the subject. I like to have more opinions. The Banner talk 14:36, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
The current Shannon Stopover section starts off with the introduction of US preclearance facilities in 1986. This is not quite accurate. As I understand it, the original stopover concept was a requirement that all transatlantic flights in and out of Ireland had to land at Shannon before proceeding on to Dublin, New York, Boston, or other destinations. This would have been in the 1960s/1970s I believe, and was in place long before any form of preclearance was introduced. I think that the procedure was gradually phased out, with airlines being allowed to bypass Shannon in one direction, or only serving it on a single route. I think there was also an interim period when an Aer Lingus 747 was based at Shannon and passed through Dublin en route to and from the USA. Maybe we could update the article to reflect this. jxm ( talk) 07:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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I am tempted to move this to Shannon Airport, since that seems to be a much more common name. Objections? -- Sekicho 17:45, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
I agree. Zoney 18:03, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Anybody following this? The Gardai are banning people from outside shannon from coming to protest. They have given out passes to residents and recorded car number plates. They have also gone door to door asking people's views on Bush and whether they intend to protest. Very police-stateish. Seabhcan 11:33, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Surely the historical use of the Shannon Estuary for flying boats should be mentioned. Does anybody know about it? -- Red King 00:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
When did this start? What are its conditions of operation? Legal/Diplomatic status? Are there any other airports world-wide with the same facility? Do US-INS staff regard it as an award posting or a punishment posting? What is the extent of non-Irish use? (I met someone from Edinburgh who found she got a far better and less hasslesome deal by flying to the US via Shannon rather than via Heathrow. She especially appreciated being able to walk past the three hour lines at JFK. -- Red King 09:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
The article says that Judge Macken "is due to give a judgement in April/May 2005". Any update? -- Red King 21:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Judgement due 9 Dec 2005, delay probably due to Judge Macken's appointment to the Supreme Court. See main article which has been updated. Dowlingm 23:26, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Judgement re-scheduled in the last minute (again!) to Tuesday, December 13. Once it's made public I can contribute to a few articles here on Irish foreign policy, Shannon Airport, Irish law, and the so-called "war on terrorism".
The "Forign military at Shannon" section seems rather one sided and opinionated. It would be more apt for an encyclopedia reporting facts, to do just that and report all facts relevant to an issue.
This article was in need of a rework and I have made a start on this today. Some text has been amended to ensure neutral point of view, non-encyclopedic content has been removed and trivia items have been integrated into appropriate sections of the article itself. The lead section contained too much information which was already contained in the article itself and has been moved / removed appropriately. Please feel free to continue to improve this article with your own edits. Thanks. SempreVolando ( talk) 19:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I accept that the list may have been too long, and the option unrealistic for other airports but could the list perhaps be represented in paragraph form, or similar, as there are some points to be made from it (especially with regard to decline in status).
There are three different spellings for the Irish name of Shannon Airport. The infobox spells it as Aerfort na Sionnainne. The logo spells it as Aerfort na Sionainne. And the first line of the article says it is Aerfort na Sionna. So does anybody know which is it?? 86.43.67.204 ( talk) 14:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe flights by Shamrock Express to Lansing are charters rather than scheduled flights. Does anyone have any source to suggest otherwise ? Pmbma ( talk) 19:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma
I removed Shamrock express. This is a tour company that comes along and says they are going to offer service to Shannon beginning Summer 08. In March 08 they cancel saying they hope to begin service the following year. Their website is still under construction [2] (1 year later). There does not appear to be much information about Kenny Tours on the internet, there does not appear to be much information about Shamrock Express on the internet. It seems like they also tried to start service out of Niagara Falls but that also did not work out. -- T*85 ( talk) 18:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
The discussion below was on User talk:88.81.104.106 but I have moved it here because it is a more appropriate place.-- A bit iffy ( talk) 16:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Does Shamrock Express really offer scheduled flights to Shannon, as opposed to charter flights ? Just because a flight-only package can be purchased from an airline does not make it a scheduled flight. Do you have a source for this ? Pmbma ( talk) 18:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma
What I heard from my relatives, is that it will be a scheduled 2 or 3 flights a week service operated for the summer months.
I do not wish to doubt on anything your relatives have said - it is entirely possible that they are 100% correct. However, for information to be on wikipedia, it needs not only to be correct, but also to be independently verifiable by a 3rd party. If it's not verifiable, it shouldn't be on wikipedia. Pmbma ( talk) 19:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability
The coordinates need the following fixes: 52.701978,-8.924817 Write here
85.201.128.95 ( talk) 20:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I know that this route was operated seasonally for a while now but is this route ending indefintely or is it still operating seasonally? 74.183.173.237 ( talk) 22:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
What heading should the fact that Volga-Dnepr Airlines have a maintenace facility here go under? ShaneMc2010 ( talk) 21:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
I would put it under Facilities and with a sub heading (Maintence Facilities). Jamie2k9 (talk) 22:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
The article says "The first Air Services Agreement with the United States in 1945 only permitted flights to Shannon, and only permitted Irish airlines to serve Boston, Chicago and New York." I guess he meant US airlines were allowed at Shannon but not elsewhere in Ireland, and Irish airlines were allowed at Boston-Chicago-NY but not elsewhere in the US? As it stands, it could mean US airlines weren't allowed to fly from SNN to BOS etc. Tim Zukas ( talk) 16:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Another tidbit: 1950s transatlantic flights were sometimes scheduled to stop at SNN for fuel, but not for passengers-- and with favorable winds they might be able to skip SNN. It seems that such a flight wasn't allowed to use Irish airspace at all. Anybody else heard of that? Tim Zukas ( talk) 16:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
As you have not added anything about it I added it and you deleted it I would like a reason why you are censoring a public website — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.246 ( talk) 15:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Seasonal suspension of Aer Lingus' transatlantic routes
The information therein needs to be reformulated, since it now occurred in the past. Either that or removed altogether; Transatlantic flights having been suspended a year or two ago from the airport, isn't really encyclopedic knowledge for its article, is it ? -- 205.167.7.125 ( talk) 09:01, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
If you find any references for charter flights operating at SNN please add them as it can be hard to find out if charters are still running. Please remove any charters that are no longer running. Thanks, Vg31-irl ( talk) 15:32, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
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Travel Service Airlines is shown as a passenger airline, with destinations Marseille and CDG. However, there is no mention of that airline in the referenced source, and the article on Travel Service Airlines makes no mention of any SNN operations. Can someone clarify what's happening?-- A bit iffy ( talk) 00:44, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Someone put a hidden message in the destinations section not to put BA LCY in the table.
I do not see a discussion here for such restriction. BA LCY should be put in but with a notation that only passengers between LCY and JFK are carried. Vanguard10 ( talk) 05:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Just querying the opening sentence of the article: Shannon Airport (Irish: Aerfort na Sionna) (IATA: SNN, ICAO: EINN) is one of Ireland's three primary airports
. This sounds quite odd to me, given that three are 2-3 other airports, namely Belfast International, Belfast City and maybe also City of Derry, which are indisputably in Ireland, and are in the same league of "primacy" as Dublin, Cork and Shannon. Of course, I know there is a lot of controversy around these sorts of topics, and I know that Irish people don't like the term "Republic of Ireland" for their country, preferring simply "Ireland", which is understandable. On the other hand, however, few would dispute that Belfast and Derry are in Ireland (albeit not in the nation state called Ireland). Is there a better way we could word this? Thanks —
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I have difficulty with the addition by User:StairySky added here and his similar edit on Dermot Ahern. I have severe doubts if these additions are in the best interest of the articles at hand and seems to be overblown/out of scope of the subject. I like to have more opinions. The Banner talk 14:36, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
The current Shannon Stopover section starts off with the introduction of US preclearance facilities in 1986. This is not quite accurate. As I understand it, the original stopover concept was a requirement that all transatlantic flights in and out of Ireland had to land at Shannon before proceeding on to Dublin, New York, Boston, or other destinations. This would have been in the 1960s/1970s I believe, and was in place long before any form of preclearance was introduced. I think that the procedure was gradually phased out, with airlines being allowed to bypass Shannon in one direction, or only serving it on a single route. I think there was also an interim period when an Aer Lingus 747 was based at Shannon and passed through Dublin en route to and from the USA. Maybe we could update the article to reflect this. jxm ( talk) 07:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)