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See Talk:Sailor Galaxia. ^_^ -- Masamage 23:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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I think that shot's a good compromise. :) Wasn't Sailor Guts one of the first Phage, too? - Malkinann 22:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
The Black Moon Clan, Death Busters and Dead Moon Circus have logos (A black moon, a star, and a thing thats on their heads respectively) Does shadow Galactica have one... (I'm not that far...) Lego3400: The Sage of Time 20:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah they do... They all have that little black gem on their head. And Queen Nehellia has upside pyramid made of 3 cresents on her head. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 02:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
would galaxia braclets be a logo? sailor cuteness-ready for love 20:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
is mc fly a refrance to the band MCFLY? Sailor cuteness 15:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any reasion they went with a bug theme? i know in the manga sailor hevey metal papon(how ever you spell it :{ ) was a butterfly apart from that i cant see a conection between sailor moon and bugs ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 21:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
In Stars Kaiteban, MCFly didn't become Fly-Man, he wore a white tuxedo to fight Tuxedo Kamen since Tuxedo Kamen impersonated him earlier in the musical. And, he wasn't "Replaced" By Kauosu(sory for rather bad spelling) he just wasn't in the musical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yayamaya ( talk • contribs)
After the Sailor Moon Sailor Stars musical, the bug theme was dropped, and in Sailor Moon Sailor Stars Kaiteban musical he stayed rather the same but instead of transforming into a fly-man he wore a white tuxedo to impersonate Tuxedo Kamen as Tuxedo Kamen impersonated him various times ealier in the musical. Yayamaya 03:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a small Snipit about the evil version of the Senshi to the "Other members" Should we replace the image of Nehelenia with one of the evil senshi? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lego3400 ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
I found this picture on the orical http://www.soul-hunter.com/sailormoon/gallerymanga/evilsenshi/043.gif I think it looks better because it shows all of them and they arnt attacking so you can see them in a better focas ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 20:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone forgot to mention Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon! she appears in the manga and also in artbooks, and she is a fan favorite as well! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princesuperstar ( talk • contribs)
Would Kayosu and the Controled Galaxia count as a from of Chaos that's part of Shadow Galactica? Lego3400: The Sage of Time 15:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Are we doing places separate or like the Silver Millennium article? For example the garden, the rivers, graveyard and the castle, the TV station are all part of this group. (All but the last is manga-based). Some character info is missing too... like Chaos in the manga as an entity and Sailor Chaos (manga), even as a subsection of the Choas article... which only seems to cover the musical form. The mention of the Chaos seed as well. The Death Phantom also made a cameo in this. I have a picture of the castle from the manga... http://sailormoon.takeuchi-naoko.com/pics/places/cathedral.jpg and the TV station shouldn't be difficult. The graveyard is also in there as well. -- Hitsuji Kinno 02:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I looked at the subordinate articles--it's not so much missing as that the articles don't coordinate well. For example this one has the musical version of Chaos, but then the article Chaos itself mentions what this section is missing. The Sailor Animates section here covers what the animates section is missing. Thus I think it needs a bit more restructuring. Specifically something like this: This section loosely introduces the characters much like the main article does for the main cast of characters in Sailormoon. Major groups are mentioned with wiki links to the main articles in question. This would mean that there is a loose definition of Chaos on tis page, and the musical info would go on Chaos Proper, the Lethe and Mnemosyne stuff would be moved to Animamates proper with a loose list of characters. This article's main function would be then to explain a bit about the function of the group and discrepancies between the various versions. I think this will smooth out readability. As it is now it's really difficult to figure out all about once subject all at once. Also we should have a vote on what to do about places... should they be in the articles that belong to those places, such as the story arcs and relevant pages or should it have its own page or a combination of the two. Because Silver Millennium has the buildings, it would stand to reason that the Cathedral should also be included in this article. Also how to list episodes is inconsistent... but that's a Project issue to bring up.-- Hitsuji Kinno 02:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I was just wondering if there has been any official source that describes the Phage? I have yet to read through my TV Magazine of Sailor Stars, but from what I have seen from the anime, they do not turn into Phage just because they have their Starseed extracted. The black television cables that are underground throughout Tokyo from Ginga TV seem to tear through the ground and wrap around the victim and turn them into a parody Senshi. It wouldn't be known to the Sailor Anima-Mates of their Phage form if it wasn't them that cause this transformation of sorts. Although it's stated that they are created by the Anima-Mates, I think the cause of their transformation should also be noted. What do you think? ~ Fighter4luv 14:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I think shadowed galaxy the galaxia fan site we have as external links on her page has a description ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 17:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Isn't it 'Saffer', rather than Sapphire? The kana for it is サッファー, which approximates the old english 'Saffer' a lot closer than 'Sapphire' (which would usually be written as サファイア). Paul E Nolan 02:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Do you think we could get a source to cite the kana transcription of サッファー? -- Denelson 83 00:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but has anyone checked the Materials Collection yet? "Safuiru". -- RattleMan 00:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
So now that we have proof of the Saffaa katakana, are we go for changing it? -- Masamage ♫ 17:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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See Talk:Sailor Animamates#Dub name please and thank you. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 13:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
As part of the effort to keep our number of images under control, I propose that we remove the photo of Sailor Buttress and the scan of the Evil Sailor Senshi. Both of those can be described easily enough in prose that having copyrighted images is unnecessary: SB just looks like Galaxia with different colors, and the Evil Sailor Senshi just have bracelets and mean looks on their faces. If no one objects to this, I'll remove the images this coming weekend. -- Masamage ♫ 17:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the Sailor Animamates, Sailor Galaxia, and Chaos (Sailor Moon) articles into this one. If we trimmed out all the excessive plot info from each, they would be fairly short and heavily dependent on each other, and so would be much better together. For the time being it would be sort of a subsidiary character list--once the full list is up and running we can reevaluate this.
This one I acknowledge may be controversial because of the sheer number of characters associated with Shadow Galactica, but we really do have far too much story information right now, and I believe it could fit just fine. Chaos is the other weird one, since he's technically involved in all the other villain groups too, but since this is kind of his "home base" I think it's fair to put him here. Please share your thoughts. -- Masamage ♫ 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
It's been over a week with no objections to the Sailor Animamates merge. If we go one more week and no one minds, I'll proceed with that part. We can keep talking about the others if anyone has comments. -- Masamage ♫ 16:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I support the merger of Galaxia, but I disagree with the merger of Chaos, as it is not part of the Shadow Galactica, but the main villain taking the form of the major villains in the whole series. -- LoЯd ۞pεth 05:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I found this interesting tidbit in the Materials collection " When Galaxia removes these bracelets, her true power appears. She becomes Sailor Chaos." Lego3400: The Sage of Time ( talk) 07:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I think we can safely cull the shots of Chaotic Galaxia and anime Chaos. They can be very easily described (Chaotic Galaxia is Sailor Galaxia with a different color scheme, Chaos is a swirly black thing with a face), so we don't really need to use copyrighted images to depict them. I'll give it a few days before removing them, though; sound off here if you have any objections or other suggestions. -- Masamage ♫ 04:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I forgot to ever come back to this. Blowing away those images now. X) -- Masamage ♫ 22:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Do the head villians know there incarnations of Chaos? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.231.103 ( talk) 16:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
but he was dead after the black moon advents —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.83.7.190 ( talk) 12:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Also Death Phantom time travels from future so its hard to know whan in his timeline he met Sailor Galaxia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.168.91 ( talk) 20:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the content of Kyaosu's section be merged into Chaos's section? In the end, it is Chaos himself, not an incarnation, not a possession. -- LoЯd ۞pεth 06:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The caption currently says "Center column: Galaxia in her good and evil forms"; shouldn't that be corrected? Her having a "good" versus an "evil" form is anime only, and that is a manga image. I suggest using something of the like "Center column: Galaxia in her civilian and Sailor Senshi forms", as that would be correct for both anime and manga. 201.253.201.28 ( talk) 17:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
But we don't know it's a Civillan form. I think "True form" is more fitting Lego3400: The Sage of Time ( talk) 04:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Ian Miller's thesis was the Lapis Lazuli's Old English name (Saffer) was the name for Galaxia's Gem, however, there is a kanji issue and also a mineral issue.
扁青石 is Lapis Lazuli in kanji, however, the kanji for the gem used is: 青金石 This creates two issues. 1. Lapis Lazuli is not a mineral, however, the kanji "Kinseki" refers to a mineral specifically. 2. The kanji are different.
Sapphire's kanji is: 青玉 which is closer than Lapis Lazuli.
For a medical student to make that sort of blunder is unlikely, especially with kanji attached. The kanji read "Blue mineral" And definitely, Lapis Lazuli is *not* a mineral it is a stone. However, Sapphire is. There has to be a better solution.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sapphire Also doesn't back Miller at all.
Rather Saffer is an Old French derived named for someone who was greedy. http://www.4crests.com/saffer-coat-of-arms.html
But there seems to be no support for that etymology. I'm thinking she wanted it to be somewhat ambiguous, because the name of the gem translates to "Blue or green mineral" Which could be a Sapphire. But since Sapphire has a kanji association, it just sounds ambiguous to me. But Saffer definitely doesn't fit.
Remember to back track all Ian Miller's research. They tend to end up at dead ends...-- Hitsuji Kinno ( talk) 17:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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See Talk:Sailor Galaxia. ^_^ -- Masamage 23:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
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I think that shot's a good compromise. :) Wasn't Sailor Guts one of the first Phage, too? - Malkinann 22:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
The Black Moon Clan, Death Busters and Dead Moon Circus have logos (A black moon, a star, and a thing thats on their heads respectively) Does shadow Galactica have one... (I'm not that far...) Lego3400: The Sage of Time 20:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah they do... They all have that little black gem on their head. And Queen Nehellia has upside pyramid made of 3 cresents on her head. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 02:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
would galaxia braclets be a logo? sailor cuteness-ready for love 20:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
is mc fly a refrance to the band MCFLY? Sailor cuteness 15:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any reasion they went with a bug theme? i know in the manga sailor hevey metal papon(how ever you spell it :{ ) was a butterfly apart from that i cant see a conection between sailor moon and bugs ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 21:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
In Stars Kaiteban, MCFly didn't become Fly-Man, he wore a white tuxedo to fight Tuxedo Kamen since Tuxedo Kamen impersonated him earlier in the musical. And, he wasn't "Replaced" By Kauosu(sory for rather bad spelling) he just wasn't in the musical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yayamaya ( talk • contribs)
After the Sailor Moon Sailor Stars musical, the bug theme was dropped, and in Sailor Moon Sailor Stars Kaiteban musical he stayed rather the same but instead of transforming into a fly-man he wore a white tuxedo to impersonate Tuxedo Kamen as Tuxedo Kamen impersonated him various times ealier in the musical. Yayamaya 03:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a small Snipit about the evil version of the Senshi to the "Other members" Should we replace the image of Nehelenia with one of the evil senshi? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lego3400 ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
I found this picture on the orical http://www.soul-hunter.com/sailormoon/gallerymanga/evilsenshi/043.gif I think it looks better because it shows all of them and they arnt attacking so you can see them in a better focas ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 20:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone forgot to mention Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon! she appears in the manga and also in artbooks, and she is a fan favorite as well! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princesuperstar ( talk • contribs)
Would Kayosu and the Controled Galaxia count as a from of Chaos that's part of Shadow Galactica? Lego3400: The Sage of Time 15:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Are we doing places separate or like the Silver Millennium article? For example the garden, the rivers, graveyard and the castle, the TV station are all part of this group. (All but the last is manga-based). Some character info is missing too... like Chaos in the manga as an entity and Sailor Chaos (manga), even as a subsection of the Choas article... which only seems to cover the musical form. The mention of the Chaos seed as well. The Death Phantom also made a cameo in this. I have a picture of the castle from the manga... http://sailormoon.takeuchi-naoko.com/pics/places/cathedral.jpg and the TV station shouldn't be difficult. The graveyard is also in there as well. -- Hitsuji Kinno 02:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I looked at the subordinate articles--it's not so much missing as that the articles don't coordinate well. For example this one has the musical version of Chaos, but then the article Chaos itself mentions what this section is missing. The Sailor Animates section here covers what the animates section is missing. Thus I think it needs a bit more restructuring. Specifically something like this: This section loosely introduces the characters much like the main article does for the main cast of characters in Sailormoon. Major groups are mentioned with wiki links to the main articles in question. This would mean that there is a loose definition of Chaos on tis page, and the musical info would go on Chaos Proper, the Lethe and Mnemosyne stuff would be moved to Animamates proper with a loose list of characters. This article's main function would be then to explain a bit about the function of the group and discrepancies between the various versions. I think this will smooth out readability. As it is now it's really difficult to figure out all about once subject all at once. Also we should have a vote on what to do about places... should they be in the articles that belong to those places, such as the story arcs and relevant pages or should it have its own page or a combination of the two. Because Silver Millennium has the buildings, it would stand to reason that the Cathedral should also be included in this article. Also how to list episodes is inconsistent... but that's a Project issue to bring up.-- Hitsuji Kinno 02:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I was just wondering if there has been any official source that describes the Phage? I have yet to read through my TV Magazine of Sailor Stars, but from what I have seen from the anime, they do not turn into Phage just because they have their Starseed extracted. The black television cables that are underground throughout Tokyo from Ginga TV seem to tear through the ground and wrap around the victim and turn them into a parody Senshi. It wouldn't be known to the Sailor Anima-Mates of their Phage form if it wasn't them that cause this transformation of sorts. Although it's stated that they are created by the Anima-Mates, I think the cause of their transformation should also be noted. What do you think? ~ Fighter4luv 14:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I think shadowed galaxy the galaxia fan site we have as external links on her page has a description ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 17:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Isn't it 'Saffer', rather than Sapphire? The kana for it is サッファー, which approximates the old english 'Saffer' a lot closer than 'Sapphire' (which would usually be written as サファイア). Paul E Nolan 02:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Do you think we could get a source to cite the kana transcription of サッファー? -- Denelson 83 00:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but has anyone checked the Materials Collection yet? "Safuiru". -- RattleMan 00:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
So now that we have proof of the Saffaa katakana, are we go for changing it? -- Masamage ♫ 17:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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See Talk:Sailor Animamates#Dub name please and thank you. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 13:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
As part of the effort to keep our number of images under control, I propose that we remove the photo of Sailor Buttress and the scan of the Evil Sailor Senshi. Both of those can be described easily enough in prose that having copyrighted images is unnecessary: SB just looks like Galaxia with different colors, and the Evil Sailor Senshi just have bracelets and mean looks on their faces. If no one objects to this, I'll remove the images this coming weekend. -- Masamage ♫ 17:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the Sailor Animamates, Sailor Galaxia, and Chaos (Sailor Moon) articles into this one. If we trimmed out all the excessive plot info from each, they would be fairly short and heavily dependent on each other, and so would be much better together. For the time being it would be sort of a subsidiary character list--once the full list is up and running we can reevaluate this.
This one I acknowledge may be controversial because of the sheer number of characters associated with Shadow Galactica, but we really do have far too much story information right now, and I believe it could fit just fine. Chaos is the other weird one, since he's technically involved in all the other villain groups too, but since this is kind of his "home base" I think it's fair to put him here. Please share your thoughts. -- Masamage ♫ 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
It's been over a week with no objections to the Sailor Animamates merge. If we go one more week and no one minds, I'll proceed with that part. We can keep talking about the others if anyone has comments. -- Masamage ♫ 16:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I support the merger of Galaxia, but I disagree with the merger of Chaos, as it is not part of the Shadow Galactica, but the main villain taking the form of the major villains in the whole series. -- LoЯd ۞pεth 05:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I found this interesting tidbit in the Materials collection " When Galaxia removes these bracelets, her true power appears. She becomes Sailor Chaos." Lego3400: The Sage of Time ( talk) 07:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I think we can safely cull the shots of Chaotic Galaxia and anime Chaos. They can be very easily described (Chaotic Galaxia is Sailor Galaxia with a different color scheme, Chaos is a swirly black thing with a face), so we don't really need to use copyrighted images to depict them. I'll give it a few days before removing them, though; sound off here if you have any objections or other suggestions. -- Masamage ♫ 04:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I forgot to ever come back to this. Blowing away those images now. X) -- Masamage ♫ 22:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Do the head villians know there incarnations of Chaos? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.231.103 ( talk) 16:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
but he was dead after the black moon advents —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.83.7.190 ( talk) 12:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Also Death Phantom time travels from future so its hard to know whan in his timeline he met Sailor Galaxia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.168.91 ( talk) 20:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the content of Kyaosu's section be merged into Chaos's section? In the end, it is Chaos himself, not an incarnation, not a possession. -- LoЯd ۞pεth 06:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
The caption currently says "Center column: Galaxia in her good and evil forms"; shouldn't that be corrected? Her having a "good" versus an "evil" form is anime only, and that is a manga image. I suggest using something of the like "Center column: Galaxia in her civilian and Sailor Senshi forms", as that would be correct for both anime and manga. 201.253.201.28 ( talk) 17:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
But we don't know it's a Civillan form. I think "True form" is more fitting Lego3400: The Sage of Time ( talk) 04:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Ian Miller's thesis was the Lapis Lazuli's Old English name (Saffer) was the name for Galaxia's Gem, however, there is a kanji issue and also a mineral issue.
扁青石 is Lapis Lazuli in kanji, however, the kanji for the gem used is: 青金石 This creates two issues. 1. Lapis Lazuli is not a mineral, however, the kanji "Kinseki" refers to a mineral specifically. 2. The kanji are different.
Sapphire's kanji is: 青玉 which is closer than Lapis Lazuli.
For a medical student to make that sort of blunder is unlikely, especially with kanji attached. The kanji read "Blue mineral" And definitely, Lapis Lazuli is *not* a mineral it is a stone. However, Sapphire is. There has to be a better solution.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sapphire Also doesn't back Miller at all.
Rather Saffer is an Old French derived named for someone who was greedy. http://www.4crests.com/saffer-coat-of-arms.html
But there seems to be no support for that etymology. I'm thinking she wanted it to be somewhat ambiguous, because the name of the gem translates to "Blue or green mineral" Which could be a Sapphire. But since Sapphire has a kanji association, it just sounds ambiguous to me. But Saffer definitely doesn't fit.
Remember to back track all Ian Miller's research. They tend to end up at dead ends...-- Hitsuji Kinno ( talk) 17:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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