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The discussion of grammar is VERY short, but it depends on how much info on grammar is actually available on this language. If it was readily available, this article would have to be demoted to B (or maybe even C) class status. But I don't know, so could anyone tell me? Best, G Purevdorj ( talk) 19:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I was surprised to see this article rated "top importance". This is a poorly-known language spoken by 600 people in southern Ethiopia which was identified only within the last 25-30 years; hardly as important as Oromo or Amhara, which have more speakers & a larger cultural impact on their neighbors. Checking the criteria for assessing the importance of articles -- which I don't agree with, but they are what we have to work with -- I feel that Shabo fails the measure & is better rated as having "High" importance. -- llywrch ( talk) 00:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't think in general it's helpful to list languages as isolates unless this is the majority view. "Unclassified" and "isolate" aren't the same thing. I'm willing to put a language in the "isolate" category if Ethnologue thinks so even if that isn't clearly majoritarian, but not just because one (even respected) linguist thinks so, except in a very small number of exceptional cases (viz. Greenberg's African language classification, which is widely cited). Benwing ( talk) 23:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
We really need to redo the article, however, in light of Schnoebelen's fieldwork. — kwami ( talk) 00:12, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
After a discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard, there are serious concerns about whether the Ukrainian journal Virtus is a reliable source, as its contributors pay for publishing and there appears to be no peer-review. The author is not a linguist. The claim below is extraordinary, and looks to be very much WP:FRINGE, therefore I have removed it provisionally pending better documentation or more information.
Rassokha (2020) (unlike Blench, not a reputable African linguist) attempts to establish a relationship between Shabo and the Sumerian language and that both of them belong to the Austroasiatic language family. [1]
Boynamedsue ( talk) 17:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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If Chabu is the preferred term and the people themselves react with anger if called "Shabo" (cf. Kibebe Tsehay's grammar, p. 3), shouldn't the article be moved to the more preferred name instead of just saying so in the intro? -- Thogo 13:17, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Shabo language was one of the Language and literature good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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Current status: Delisted good article |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The discussion of grammar is VERY short, but it depends on how much info on grammar is actually available on this language. If it was readily available, this article would have to be demoted to B (or maybe even C) class status. But I don't know, so could anyone tell me? Best, G Purevdorj ( talk) 19:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I was surprised to see this article rated "top importance". This is a poorly-known language spoken by 600 people in southern Ethiopia which was identified only within the last 25-30 years; hardly as important as Oromo or Amhara, which have more speakers & a larger cultural impact on their neighbors. Checking the criteria for assessing the importance of articles -- which I don't agree with, but they are what we have to work with -- I feel that Shabo fails the measure & is better rated as having "High" importance. -- llywrch ( talk) 00:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't think in general it's helpful to list languages as isolates unless this is the majority view. "Unclassified" and "isolate" aren't the same thing. I'm willing to put a language in the "isolate" category if Ethnologue thinks so even if that isn't clearly majoritarian, but not just because one (even respected) linguist thinks so, except in a very small number of exceptional cases (viz. Greenberg's African language classification, which is widely cited). Benwing ( talk) 23:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
We really need to redo the article, however, in light of Schnoebelen's fieldwork. — kwami ( talk) 00:12, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
After a discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard, there are serious concerns about whether the Ukrainian journal Virtus is a reliable source, as its contributors pay for publishing and there appears to be no peer-review. The author is not a linguist. The claim below is extraordinary, and looks to be very much WP:FRINGE, therefore I have removed it provisionally pending better documentation or more information.
Rassokha (2020) (unlike Blench, not a reputable African linguist) attempts to establish a relationship between Shabo and the Sumerian language and that both of them belong to the Austroasiatic language family. [1]
Boynamedsue ( talk) 17:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
References
If Chabu is the preferred term and the people themselves react with anger if called "Shabo" (cf. Kibebe Tsehay's grammar, p. 3), shouldn't the article be moved to the more preferred name instead of just saying so in the intro? -- Thogo 13:17, 2 January 2023 (UTC)