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I just visited England last week and took a side trip to Wales. When we crossed the Severn Bridge the water was completely brown! It was the strangest thing we had ever seen...and when we came back 5 hours later, it was still brown and muddy. We wanted to know what causes that? Janet Maffucci Jaymaffucci ( talk) 13:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
What is the source for the assertion that "in navigational and cartographic terms" the Severn above the SSC is not part of the Severn Estuary? It's not just the Severn Estuary Partnership that regards the estuary as extending further. See for example the VisitEngland website. Even the image illustrating the article shows Beachley as on the estuary. Mhockey ( talk) 22:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I have amended the text - including moving the bit about the Severn bore, which only occurs on the estuary in its widest definition. (I have not as yet changed the text in the River Severn article.) Mhockey ( talk) 16:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
There is a very small uncited article about the Severn Escarpment which I feel properly forms part of the geography of the Severn Estuary, therefore I am proposing to merge that article into this one.— Rod talk 21:26, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
The Ordnance Survey use this name for that section of water between what they label as the River Severn (around and above the 2 crossings) and the Bristol Channel to its west. It also appears (perhaps as a derivative of its OS appearance) in the map currently illustrating this article. Does anyone know about the pedigree of this name? Does it refer perhaps to the section downstream of English Stones (now the site of the 2nd Severn crossing) so far as the Lavernock/Sand Point line? I feel it ought to be mentioned and perhaps expanded upon in either/both the Bristol Channel and Severn Estuary articles. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 06:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
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The lede currently states: The Severn Estuary . . . is the confluence of the River Severn, the River Wye, the River Usk, the River Avon, and other smaller rivers. I've a problem with that insofar as it's not really a confluence (is it?), but rather an extended body of tidal water into which those named and un-named watercourses separately empty themselves. Noting also that there is no link to the estuary WP article, I'd suggest something along the lines of:
'The Severn Estuary ( Welsh Aber Hafren) is a funnel-shaped expanse of tidal water between England and South Wales into which the rivers Severn, Wye, Usk and Bristol Avon flow.'
Any thoughts? Geopersona ( talk) 13:09, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I somehow omitted to get round to doing anything. That's certainly an improvement but I suspect you're right - we may wish to tweak further. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 16:05, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
I've just found my way here via the very dubious claim on the Second Severn Crossing page that it is the upper limit of the estuary, and now I see there has been much discussion of the definition already.
Looking at the definitions given here, and the references given for them, I'm wondering if maybe navigational charts have been misunderstood or given undue weight? A navigational chart is interested in defining navigational waters, not in defining places and geography. If it is trying to define "Severn estuary", it is not trying to give us an encyclopaedic definition of the estuary of the River Severn, or the area that will commonly be called "Severn estuary", it is trying to define a navigable area.
The article intro defines the Severn Estuary as the estuary of the River Severn, not as a navigable area. It's certainly worth mentioning and describing the navigable area definitions in the article, but at the moment it feels like they currently have undue weight compared with the physical geography definition of estuary. 10:20, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
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I just visited England last week and took a side trip to Wales. When we crossed the Severn Bridge the water was completely brown! It was the strangest thing we had ever seen...and when we came back 5 hours later, it was still brown and muddy. We wanted to know what causes that? Janet Maffucci Jaymaffucci ( talk) 13:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
What is the source for the assertion that "in navigational and cartographic terms" the Severn above the SSC is not part of the Severn Estuary? It's not just the Severn Estuary Partnership that regards the estuary as extending further. See for example the VisitEngland website. Even the image illustrating the article shows Beachley as on the estuary. Mhockey ( talk) 22:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I have amended the text - including moving the bit about the Severn bore, which only occurs on the estuary in its widest definition. (I have not as yet changed the text in the River Severn article.) Mhockey ( talk) 16:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
There is a very small uncited article about the Severn Escarpment which I feel properly forms part of the geography of the Severn Estuary, therefore I am proposing to merge that article into this one.— Rod talk 21:26, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
The Ordnance Survey use this name for that section of water between what they label as the River Severn (around and above the 2 crossings) and the Bristol Channel to its west. It also appears (perhaps as a derivative of its OS appearance) in the map currently illustrating this article. Does anyone know about the pedigree of this name? Does it refer perhaps to the section downstream of English Stones (now the site of the 2nd Severn crossing) so far as the Lavernock/Sand Point line? I feel it ought to be mentioned and perhaps expanded upon in either/both the Bristol Channel and Severn Estuary articles. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 06:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
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The lede currently states: The Severn Estuary . . . is the confluence of the River Severn, the River Wye, the River Usk, the River Avon, and other smaller rivers. I've a problem with that insofar as it's not really a confluence (is it?), but rather an extended body of tidal water into which those named and un-named watercourses separately empty themselves. Noting also that there is no link to the estuary WP article, I'd suggest something along the lines of:
'The Severn Estuary ( Welsh Aber Hafren) is a funnel-shaped expanse of tidal water between England and South Wales into which the rivers Severn, Wye, Usk and Bristol Avon flow.'
Any thoughts? Geopersona ( talk) 13:09, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I somehow omitted to get round to doing anything. That's certainly an improvement but I suspect you're right - we may wish to tweak further. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 16:05, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
I've just found my way here via the very dubious claim on the Second Severn Crossing page that it is the upper limit of the estuary, and now I see there has been much discussion of the definition already.
Looking at the definitions given here, and the references given for them, I'm wondering if maybe navigational charts have been misunderstood or given undue weight? A navigational chart is interested in defining navigational waters, not in defining places and geography. If it is trying to define "Severn estuary", it is not trying to give us an encyclopaedic definition of the estuary of the River Severn, or the area that will commonly be called "Severn estuary", it is trying to define a navigable area.
The article intro defines the Severn Estuary as the estuary of the River Severn, not as a navigable area. It's certainly worth mentioning and describing the navigable area definitions in the article, but at the moment it feels like they currently have undue weight compared with the physical geography definition of estuary. 10:20, 5 February 2022 (UTC)