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I am going to start working on this article again after a long wikibreak. Won't make any major changes for awhile except for some copyediting that I will do on my namespace. KnowledgeRequire ( talk) 23:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
1) I archived most of your talk page. Hope this helps. 2) I used your Weather portal to establish the content outline. A couple of sections had to be inserted based on best guess. 3) Some of the material in the individual sections has been distributed to the associated Main article talk page for incorporation with those pages. 4) There are numerous CE comments that I hope will provide stimulation. 5) I added a comment banner to each section to help editors focus.
This was a challenge and after 12 hours, I hope you like the results. Happy editing Bullock ✉ 04:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
This article still needs a lot of work. References are severely lacking: not necessarily in number, but in appropriateness. I have found at least two references so far which do not support the facts they are purported to support. Several of the phenomena listed on this page are not severe weather by any definition I am aware of (clouds? really???), and several sections have no content save a link to the main article on their subject.
I believe this article is an ideal case for summary style writing. I don't like the layout as of now; there is too much overlap between the concepts of "storm" and "precipitation" to have separate sections like this. I think the best way to separate would be "summer severe weather" and "winter severe weather", since these are relatively well-defined, with an "other severe weather" section to cover various "severe" (as cited by an official source!) phenomena which do not fit into those categories.- RunningOnBrains( talk) 23:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
If we're going to use a summary style format with this article (which we have been anyway), there's no good reason for a cloud or extreme temperature section. The extreme temperature information was moved into the extreme weather article since the past year of edits and referencing continue not to indicate heat and cold waves as severe weather, merely extreme weather. While one could argue you can't have thunderstorms without clouds, clouds in an of themselves are not severe weather. However, I can see the thunderstorm section staying, since the shorter fused severe weather is connected with that phenomenon. The lead is going to need expansion, because right now, it cannot stand alone as a summary of this article, which violates the MoS (Manual of Style). Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I propose that the main headers/sections (but not the only ones) of this article be high winds, excessive rainfall, and hail. Some of us (particularly myself) were overzealous regarding all the various headers/subheaders/sections included within this article, which has only gotten worse since I left the article in August. We can merge the current information regarding the different weather systems which cause these phenomena under these three main headers. Can we agree as a group that these are the main forms of severe weather? If so, expect a significant amount of rearranging and restructuring. Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
(unindent) These categories seem to ignore the inclusion of severe winter weather, which is a term used quite often, at least in Canada ( example. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 20:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Thegreatdr seems to know the difference. I don't. What is it?
If one lives in south eastern Australia, a heat wave is what leads to the bushfires that kill hundreds of people. I consider that severe. HiLo48 ( talk) 13:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Most of the sections are well-referenced, except for the dust storm section. Additional references may also be needed ranking the damage from various forms of severe weather against eath other in the cause section. Once these items are done, and the current format is considered reasonable, a GAN run would be in order. Thegreatdr ( talk) 00:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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howdy everyone! I've noticed that this article could use some improvement. I've also noticed that this article has a lot of good information and possibly some redundancy. I look forward to working with you all to make this a better article overall. Lahnano ( talk) 19:46, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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I removed the following from two sections, as - mostly - the material did not seem to me to fit into topic of "extreme weather". If they should go back in, I would suggest improving the expression, which I would be happy to help with, if needed.
A period of strong winds before a thunderstorm or strong winds associating with a weather front
Heat burst
A bundle of wind With warm temperatures coming through from a thunderstorms
Weather front
Weather fronts are low-pressure systems that can bring all sorts of kinds of weather including high winds heavy rains
Squall
Strong winds that last a short period of timeFrom final section:
Also the second para of "Causes" section, had been truncated here. I put back the deleted material. AukusRuckus ( talk) 02:58, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Correction. AukusRuckus ( talk) 05:31, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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I am going to start working on this article again after a long wikibreak. Won't make any major changes for awhile except for some copyediting that I will do on my namespace. KnowledgeRequire ( talk) 23:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
1) I archived most of your talk page. Hope this helps. 2) I used your Weather portal to establish the content outline. A couple of sections had to be inserted based on best guess. 3) Some of the material in the individual sections has been distributed to the associated Main article talk page for incorporation with those pages. 4) There are numerous CE comments that I hope will provide stimulation. 5) I added a comment banner to each section to help editors focus.
This was a challenge and after 12 hours, I hope you like the results. Happy editing Bullock ✉ 04:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
This article still needs a lot of work. References are severely lacking: not necessarily in number, but in appropriateness. I have found at least two references so far which do not support the facts they are purported to support. Several of the phenomena listed on this page are not severe weather by any definition I am aware of (clouds? really???), and several sections have no content save a link to the main article on their subject.
I believe this article is an ideal case for summary style writing. I don't like the layout as of now; there is too much overlap between the concepts of "storm" and "precipitation" to have separate sections like this. I think the best way to separate would be "summer severe weather" and "winter severe weather", since these are relatively well-defined, with an "other severe weather" section to cover various "severe" (as cited by an official source!) phenomena which do not fit into those categories.- RunningOnBrains( talk) 23:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
If we're going to use a summary style format with this article (which we have been anyway), there's no good reason for a cloud or extreme temperature section. The extreme temperature information was moved into the extreme weather article since the past year of edits and referencing continue not to indicate heat and cold waves as severe weather, merely extreme weather. While one could argue you can't have thunderstorms without clouds, clouds in an of themselves are not severe weather. However, I can see the thunderstorm section staying, since the shorter fused severe weather is connected with that phenomenon. The lead is going to need expansion, because right now, it cannot stand alone as a summary of this article, which violates the MoS (Manual of Style). Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I propose that the main headers/sections (but not the only ones) of this article be high winds, excessive rainfall, and hail. Some of us (particularly myself) were overzealous regarding all the various headers/subheaders/sections included within this article, which has only gotten worse since I left the article in August. We can merge the current information regarding the different weather systems which cause these phenomena under these three main headers. Can we agree as a group that these are the main forms of severe weather? If so, expect a significant amount of rearranging and restructuring. Thegreatdr ( talk) 12:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
(unindent) These categories seem to ignore the inclusion of severe winter weather, which is a term used quite often, at least in Canada ( example. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 20:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Thegreatdr seems to know the difference. I don't. What is it?
If one lives in south eastern Australia, a heat wave is what leads to the bushfires that kill hundreds of people. I consider that severe. HiLo48 ( talk) 13:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Most of the sections are well-referenced, except for the dust storm section. Additional references may also be needed ranking the damage from various forms of severe weather against eath other in the cause section. Once these items are done, and the current format is considered reasonable, a GAN run would be in order. Thegreatdr ( talk) 00:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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howdy everyone! I've noticed that this article could use some improvement. I've also noticed that this article has a lot of good information and possibly some redundancy. I look forward to working with you all to make this a better article overall. Lahnano ( talk) 19:46, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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I removed the following from two sections, as - mostly - the material did not seem to me to fit into topic of "extreme weather". If they should go back in, I would suggest improving the expression, which I would be happy to help with, if needed.
A period of strong winds before a thunderstorm or strong winds associating with a weather front
Heat burst
A bundle of wind With warm temperatures coming through from a thunderstorms
Weather front
Weather fronts are low-pressure systems that can bring all sorts of kinds of weather including high winds heavy rains
Squall
Strong winds that last a short period of timeFrom final section:
Also the second para of "Causes" section, had been truncated here. I put back the deleted material. AukusRuckus ( talk) 02:58, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Correction. AukusRuckus ( talk) 05:31, 30 November 2021 (UTC)