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Were there literally only seven people fighting or seven nations? Mr. Quertee 22:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
That makes more sense. Thanks. Mr. Quertee 01:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
It says in the body that Polynices was the cause of the entire conflict. But wasnt it Eteoclese who broke the contract for rulling established in Oedipus' will by not giving up his turn? So then isnt Eteoclese the cause of the entire conflict? Xlegiofalco 05:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Do we have sources or citations for the translation of the text from the play being quoted?
--> "who came back from exile, and sought to consume utterly with fire the city of his fathers," following.
Aretemi 09:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Food for thought: The Argives are Greeks just as the Thebans are Greek. A school of thought has developed that Aeschylus calls the Argives "barbarians," "foreign-sounding," etc. in order to evoke the memory of Xerxes' sacking of Athens in 480. FWIW Ifnkovhg 05:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Somebody (who evidently also visited the Aeschylus article) was way off in describing the play's spurious ending. I've corrected it. The new ending of the Septem leads up to the plot of Antigone, but does not contain that plot. Big difference. Also, there is some debate (see Donald Mastronarde's Phoenissae commentary) as to whether Megareus in Aeschylus and Sophocles = Menoeceus in Euripides. I.e., in Aeschylus, Megareus dies in battle, and Sophocles is ambiguous in the matter. Menoeceus kills himself in Euripides. Megareus and Menoeceus might have been conflated at some point, but when? They are separate characters in (e.g.) Statius' Thebaid (1ct cent CE) Ifnkovhg ( talk) 00:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be about the myth of the Seven Against Thebes in general, not about Aeschylus's play. Shouldn't we separate the play into its own article? john k ( talk) 04:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
On the page of Adrastus it states: Thus arose the celebrated war of the Seven against Thebes, in which Adrastus was joined by six other heroes, Polynices, Tydeus, Amphiaraus, Capaneus, Hippomedon, and Parthenopaeus. Instead of Tydeus and Polynices other legends mention Eteoclos and Mecisteus.
On the Seven Against Thebes page it states: The Seven Against Thebes were: Eteoclus Amphiaraus Capaneus Hippomedon Parthenopeus Polynices Tydeus Allies: Eteoclus and Mecisteus. Some sources, however, state that Eteoclus and Mecisteus were in fact two of the seven, and that Tydeus and Polynices were allies. This is because both Tydeus and Polynices were foreigners. However, Polynices was the cause of the entire conflict, and Tydeus performed acts of valour far surpassing Eteoclus and Mecisteus. Either way, all nine men were present (and killed) in the battle, save Adrastus.
Where Eteoclus is at the top of the Seven Against Thebes list should that not be Adrastus? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.69.29.130 ( talk) 12:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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Were there literally only seven people fighting or seven nations? Mr. Quertee 22:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
That makes more sense. Thanks. Mr. Quertee 01:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
It says in the body that Polynices was the cause of the entire conflict. But wasnt it Eteoclese who broke the contract for rulling established in Oedipus' will by not giving up his turn? So then isnt Eteoclese the cause of the entire conflict? Xlegiofalco 05:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Do we have sources or citations for the translation of the text from the play being quoted?
--> "who came back from exile, and sought to consume utterly with fire the city of his fathers," following.
Aretemi 09:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Food for thought: The Argives are Greeks just as the Thebans are Greek. A school of thought has developed that Aeschylus calls the Argives "barbarians," "foreign-sounding," etc. in order to evoke the memory of Xerxes' sacking of Athens in 480. FWIW Ifnkovhg 05:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Somebody (who evidently also visited the Aeschylus article) was way off in describing the play's spurious ending. I've corrected it. The new ending of the Septem leads up to the plot of Antigone, but does not contain that plot. Big difference. Also, there is some debate (see Donald Mastronarde's Phoenissae commentary) as to whether Megareus in Aeschylus and Sophocles = Menoeceus in Euripides. I.e., in Aeschylus, Megareus dies in battle, and Sophocles is ambiguous in the matter. Menoeceus kills himself in Euripides. Megareus and Menoeceus might have been conflated at some point, but when? They are separate characters in (e.g.) Statius' Thebaid (1ct cent CE) Ifnkovhg ( talk) 00:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be about the myth of the Seven Against Thebes in general, not about Aeschylus's play. Shouldn't we separate the play into its own article? john k ( talk) 04:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
On the page of Adrastus it states: Thus arose the celebrated war of the Seven against Thebes, in which Adrastus was joined by six other heroes, Polynices, Tydeus, Amphiaraus, Capaneus, Hippomedon, and Parthenopaeus. Instead of Tydeus and Polynices other legends mention Eteoclos and Mecisteus.
On the Seven Against Thebes page it states: The Seven Against Thebes were: Eteoclus Amphiaraus Capaneus Hippomedon Parthenopeus Polynices Tydeus Allies: Eteoclus and Mecisteus. Some sources, however, state that Eteoclus and Mecisteus were in fact two of the seven, and that Tydeus and Polynices were allies. This is because both Tydeus and Polynices were foreigners. However, Polynices was the cause of the entire conflict, and Tydeus performed acts of valour far surpassing Eteoclus and Mecisteus. Either way, all nine men were present (and killed) in the battle, save Adrastus.
Where Eteoclus is at the top of the Seven Against Thebes list should that not be Adrastus? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.69.29.130 ( talk) 12:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)