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What exactly is the rationale for moving this to "Settle to Carlisle Railway". Settle and Carslile is by far the most common name for the line. G-Man 20:07, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I agree, this move is illogical as it's universally known as the "Settle and Carlisle Railway". Who moved it? (I can't spot the move with a cursory look...) -- Arwel 22:36, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The most common name is Settle-Carlisle, that is what we should use with redirects from everywhere else. The S&C is a colloquialism I think, I'm not sure what the Act of Parliament used but ess-'n'-see is easier to say than ess-t'-see (in my best Yarkshire/Cumbrian accent)
As a train-spotting Yorkshireman who has read widely on the subject of the S&C I think it ludicrous to call it anything but the Settle and Carlisle. It is in this form that it has gained the fame that grants it a place in this project. In addition, throughout the article reference is continually made to the S&C, not the S-C or the S to C. -- Northener 14:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Settle-Carlisle railway or Settle-Carlisle line is how it has been known officially throughout its history and how Network Rail, the train operators and the locals still refer to it. The hyphen isn't usually pronounced - it's just a hyphen. "And" is conventionally used in the titles of railway companies - Stockton and Darlington Railway, Liverpool and Manchester Railway etc. - which the Settle-Carlisle never was. "Settle and Carlisle" seems to be mainly used in the titles of YouTube videos. Northern rock ( talk) 18:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: The new suggested page title is not appropriate. However, editors have made a point about consistency regarding a different title, and yes, it matters but recognizability is another important factor. Simply because other articles have similar titles do not make it an universal truth. I kind of agree to RedRose's opinion and I think it's the domino effect which causes our shift to consistency. I hope that if editors are having any issue with naming systems, they will conduct RfCs. Lastly, with no prejudice, this page is "not moved". -- QEDK ( T 鈽 C) 20:04, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Settle-Carlisle Line 鈫 Settle - Carlisle Line 鈥 A small edit, but according to the website seen here [1], on the SCL logo, there needs to be a space between the dash Nathan A RF ( talk) 16:19, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. Love the nuances! I see no actual agreement here; however, I will go ahead with the slight mod of scrapping the hyphen in favor of an unspaced endash. And this with no prejudice as regards any near-future outcomes of perpheral discussions and move requests. ( non-admin closure) 聽 Paine聽聽 u/ c 05:44, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Settle-Carlisle Line 鈫 Settle to Carlisle Line 鈥 I actually think something of a consensus was starting to form for this new title in the discussion above, but I won't challenge the close since it wasn't actually the proposed title - it will be easier to reopen with the new proposal. My reasoning? WP:CONSISTENCY mainly. Take a look at Category:Railway lines in North West England, and you'll see this one is clearly the outlier. All other lines are named with "A to B Line" format, for example Leeds to Morecambe Line, Liverpool to Wigan Line, etc. The argument made above that this terminology should only apply for one direction lines isn't really valid, since all those other examples are also two-way lines. Thanks 聽鈥斅 Amakuru ( talk) 11:58, 12 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Tavix ( talk) 19:27, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
A recent edit has added the text "the first regular scheduled service with a steam engine for more than half a century on the British rail network" - what about The Jacobite service between Fort William and Mallaig, that has been running timetabled services (daily or even twice daily) every summer for over thirty years; or GWR steam rail motor no. 93 which worked all services between Liskeard and Looe for a week or so in 2012? -- Redrose64 馃尮 ( talk) 21:09, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
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What exactly is the rationale for moving this to "Settle to Carlisle Railway". Settle and Carslile is by far the most common name for the line. G-Man 20:07, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I agree, this move is illogical as it's universally known as the "Settle and Carlisle Railway". Who moved it? (I can't spot the move with a cursory look...) -- Arwel 22:36, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The most common name is Settle-Carlisle, that is what we should use with redirects from everywhere else. The S&C is a colloquialism I think, I'm not sure what the Act of Parliament used but ess-'n'-see is easier to say than ess-t'-see (in my best Yarkshire/Cumbrian accent)
As a train-spotting Yorkshireman who has read widely on the subject of the S&C I think it ludicrous to call it anything but the Settle and Carlisle. It is in this form that it has gained the fame that grants it a place in this project. In addition, throughout the article reference is continually made to the S&C, not the S-C or the S to C. -- Northener 14:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Settle-Carlisle railway or Settle-Carlisle line is how it has been known officially throughout its history and how Network Rail, the train operators and the locals still refer to it. The hyphen isn't usually pronounced - it's just a hyphen. "And" is conventionally used in the titles of railway companies - Stockton and Darlington Railway, Liverpool and Manchester Railway etc. - which the Settle-Carlisle never was. "Settle and Carlisle" seems to be mainly used in the titles of YouTube videos. Northern rock ( talk) 18:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: The new suggested page title is not appropriate. However, editors have made a point about consistency regarding a different title, and yes, it matters but recognizability is another important factor. Simply because other articles have similar titles do not make it an universal truth. I kind of agree to RedRose's opinion and I think it's the domino effect which causes our shift to consistency. I hope that if editors are having any issue with naming systems, they will conduct RfCs. Lastly, with no prejudice, this page is "not moved". -- QEDK ( T 鈽 C) 20:04, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Settle-Carlisle Line 鈫 Settle - Carlisle Line 鈥 A small edit, but according to the website seen here [1], on the SCL logo, there needs to be a space between the dash Nathan A RF ( talk) 16:19, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. Love the nuances! I see no actual agreement here; however, I will go ahead with the slight mod of scrapping the hyphen in favor of an unspaced endash. And this with no prejudice as regards any near-future outcomes of perpheral discussions and move requests. ( non-admin closure) 聽 Paine聽聽 u/ c 05:44, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Settle-Carlisle Line 鈫 Settle to Carlisle Line 鈥 I actually think something of a consensus was starting to form for this new title in the discussion above, but I won't challenge the close since it wasn't actually the proposed title - it will be easier to reopen with the new proposal. My reasoning? WP:CONSISTENCY mainly. Take a look at Category:Railway lines in North West England, and you'll see this one is clearly the outlier. All other lines are named with "A to B Line" format, for example Leeds to Morecambe Line, Liverpool to Wigan Line, etc. The argument made above that this terminology should only apply for one direction lines isn't really valid, since all those other examples are also two-way lines. Thanks 聽鈥斅 Amakuru ( talk) 11:58, 12 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Tavix ( talk) 19:27, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
A recent edit has added the text "the first regular scheduled service with a steam engine for more than half a century on the British rail network" - what about The Jacobite service between Fort William and Mallaig, that has been running timetabled services (daily or even twice daily) every summer for over thirty years; or GWR steam rail motor no. 93 which worked all services between Liskeard and Looe for a week or so in 2012? -- Redrose64 馃尮 ( talk) 21:09, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
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