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I suppose it was inevitable that this article would become delisted. I'm not at all surprised, since it became FA way back in '06, when the FA criteria wasn't nearly as strict as it is now. Very little work has been done here, other than reverts of vandalism, for a very long time. This article, as it stands today, is no where near an FA; I doubt that it would survive a GA review. As a result, I would like to see this article improve to the quality its subject matter deserves.
This article needs at least one committed editor willing to ensure that this happens. As an editor who has led Blue's Clues to GA and The Wiggles to FA (and to the main page), I would like to spearhead this project. To that end, I have archived its talk page, so that we can start anew. The trouble is, however, I have absolutely no idea as to where to start. Since WP is about collaboration, I would like to request help from any and all interested parties. For example, I believe that this article needs a complete re-structuring, but input is required to see what that would look like.
To begin, I will put a to-do list, as WP:CO suggests. Much of what it includes will come straight from the FAR. -- Figureskatingfan ( talk) 05:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Why has Sesame Street's de facto age audience gotten younger in recent years?? You might answer with Elmo, but it is believed that Elmo's World was created under the influence of the age audience getting younger. Any less circular reason?? Georgia guy ( talk) 21:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Now that Sesame Street has moved to HD, perhaps it's time for somebody to find an HD screen shot of the title card? -- Kitch ( Talk : Contrib) 02:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I've just finished reading this marvelous book by Michael Davis; it will prove to be an invaluable source for this article and other Sesame Street articles. I highly recommend it for anyone who intends to significantly contribute to this article. Actually, I recommend it for anyone who has an interest in children's television and its history. Not only does it talk about Sesame Street, it talks about Captain Kangaroo (many of Sesame Street's creative folks also worked with Bob Keeshan), Kukla, Fran and Ollie, and Howdy Doody. It's a great read and at times, inspirational. -- Figureskatingfan ( talk) 06:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Just curious why this was removed. Multiple sources have said Jim was reluctant to be pegged as a kids entertainer, something he was sure the show would do to him. And multiple sources have said it was the whole tumult of the era that made him think it might be in the public's best interest if he risked it and became involved with Joan Ganz Cooney's project. -- Zanimum ( talk) 20:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I was just wondering if anyone knew what city sesame street is in?-- 204.118.241.39 ( talk) 01:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, I believe that you have just asked the great existential question of our age.
Notice that The Song never answers the question, "Can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street?" I am certain that many a child, when he or she watches the show, does not have to have it answered. Children under the age of 5, who are really the smartest humans in the world anyway, probably watch the show and notice that Sesame Street looks very familiar to them, that it is very much like their own street. They see the characters on the show, both human and Muppet, and perhaps they think, "They are very much like the people in my neighborhood". So, as I say, there is no need to answer your question: Sesame Street is everywhere, and it is nowhere.
If there is an answer to your question, however, I suppose it would be this: Sesame Street is a fictional place, silly. The show, Sesame Street, is filmed at the Kaufman Astoria Studios in New York City. -- Figureskatingfan ( talk) 07:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
So in that case it shows that this is in New York City. trainfan01 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.50.10.254 ( talk) 14:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Anybody have anything on the way the show ended in the 1980s with these copyright or disclaimer card on the screen with white on blue background and these awful loud bells being played in...I guess a very intense composition for some reason? Coffee4binky ( talk) 13:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
This is me being bold. I have removed these sections and placed them in user space: User:Figureskatingfan/Sesame Street cast. These are badly-written, poorly sourced sections, anyway, and are in need of major improvements. It's my intention to do that, but there needs a lot of research done beforehand. For example, the section discussing The Muppets, as it now stands, consists of a list of character descriptions, and I'm not sure that this is appropriate for this article. There are other articles, such as List of Sesame Street characters that do that, anyway. A more appropriate discussion, however, would be a description of the history of The Muppets, how Henson created and developed them, and how they're built. I may do what I did in improving this article's "Beginnings" section: improve History of Sesame Street, then summarize it here.
By the same token, I'm not sure that a list of all the actors and crewmembers is appropriate here, either. Many of these folks are already discussed in earlier parts of the article, anyway. This kind of information may be better suited over at Muppet Wiki. I need to think about how to handle this, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'm open to hearing them. To be honest, I'm a little surprised that my large-scale edits up to this point haven't been greeted with more than the occasional vandalism. I'm surprised this isn't a more controversial article, but I haven't found that to be the case up to now. -- Christine ( talk) 20:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Tonight I reverted an anonymous IP's removal of this section. [1] Perhaps you're wondering why I did that, taking this edit into consideration, where I basically did the same thing. The difference, however, is that I provided an edit summary and explained my actions on this talk page. It doesn't mean, though, that what the IP did was a bad idea; I suspect that when I arrive at that section, it may be deleted again, because, as I suspect was the purpose of the edit in question, the content may not be appropriate for this article. It's my intention to create either a section or a subsection (under "Reception") entitled "Influence" and perhaps this content belongs better there. I have to write it first, of course. In the meantime, because we may use the information in this section, I reverted the edit and put a warning on the IP's talk page. -- Christine ( talk) 04:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
The page lists that there have been over four thousand episodes of Sesame Street; I'm quite sure this isn't accurate. IMDB has 182 episodes listed on their site, which also seems extremely inaccurate. Any references to the actual number of episodes would be greatly appreciated! Jhfortier ( talk) 07:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
"'Sesame Street was also criticized for the presence of strong single women on the show" I'm wondering if this quote could be clarified, because it is a bit confusing when juxtaposed with the quotation from NOW in the next paragraph about the women being too subservient. From the reference, it was a singular Louisiana critic who made the comment about strong single females. Could we clarify it by indicating that it was a minority opinion, especially given the number of women's liberation movements in the 1970s? I'll try to write up a draft a bit later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhfortier ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I think that the first paragraph in this section is a sufficient summary, especially given that there are two unique articles dealing with international co-productions (one dealing with the series, another addressing the characters). Removing the lengthy list of series and dates would help to shorten this article (which is already tagged as being too long) and improve readability. Thoughts? Jhfortier ( talk) 06:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Thoughts on the placement of the lyrics to the theme song in this article? I'm not sure that they add to or enhance the article overall? Jhfortier ( talk) 18:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Looking at this article, one of the longest sections is the merchandising section. I think I might create a separate page for the merchandise of Sesame Street, possibly including the home videos as well. I think a quick summary in the main article with a link to the new page would reduce the length quite substantially and increase the readability. If nobody has any objections, I'll start on that in the next few days. Jhfortier ( talk) 00:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
where it lists the production companies on the page there is a typo error, it says megnetic dreams, when in fact it is magnetic dreams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.124.85 ( talk) 02:16, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering whether the Google Doodles that are running at the moment should be mentioned in the article...? Billinghamj ( talk) 19:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I think the Google Doodles should be mentioned; but I also think it important to remind readers just how short-sighted Google has proven -- yet again -- in privileging the 40th anniversary of Sesame Street over the (infinitely more important) 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall.
While I wouldn't want to deny the cultural significance of Sesame Street, I think it important for the article to acknowledge the (growing, if web-bound) controversy over this strangely narcissistic move on the part of the Americano-centric Google. In this connection, see this page: http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/021136.html . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homunculus5 ( talk • contribs) 11:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
That's a fair point; indeed, the issue, something of an elephant in the room, seems to have attracted disconcertingly attention. Regardless of Sesame Street's cultural importance, it's an enormous indictment of Google that the search-engine should ignore the significance of one of the most important moments of the twentieth century; and in *this* context, the protracted celebration of a motley crowd of muppets borders on the polymorphously perverse! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.248.1.11 ( talk) 21:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
The work of Sesame Street, in its own way, is similar to my work in the sense that [it's] fundamentally about universal access to preschool education and my work is universal access to knowledge. We both play a role in what I think has become much bigger than the time when Sesame Street started: the world of informal learning" (p. 303).
I'm sorry. What I said was inappropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.248.1.11 ( talk) 11:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
(I got things out of proportion, and reacted in ridiculously pompous and, in the context, unpleasant way; I very much hope that you and your children enjoy the 40th series, and that Sesame Street continues to do as much good for as many people as it clearly has since 1969.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.248.1.11 ( talk) 11:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I see that Rolling Stone published a list of notable musical moments from the show. Would a page along the lines of List of Sesame Street Musical Guest Appearances be a useful addition to Wikipedia? Seems like it to me, but I thought I'd check with folks who have spent time on the topic lately. Thanks, William Pietri ( talk) 06:36, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
An anonymous IP has added the below quote to this article's "Reception" section. I reverted it because it was a direct quote from Amusing Ourselves to Death. A more appropriate edit would be to summarize Postman's criticism. As a matter of fact, it's my intention to incorporate it, but I just haven't been able to get around to it yet. Therefore, I'm cutting and pasting the quote here, for future use. -- Christine ( talk) 19:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
One notable critic of Sesame Street's standing as an educational milestone was Neil Postman, who explained in his 1985 book Amusing Ourselves to Death that "'Sesame Street' encourages children to love school only if school is like 'Sesame Street.' Which is to say, we now know that 'Sesame Street' undermines what the traditional idea of schooling represents. Whereas a classroom is a place of social interaction, the space in front of a television set is a private preserve. Whereas in a classroom, one may ask a teacher questions, one can ask nothing of a television screen. Whereas school is centered on the development of language, television demands attention to images. Whereas attending school is a legal requirement, watching television is an act of choice. Whereas in school, one fails to attend to the teacher at the risk of punishment, no penalties exist for failing to attend to the television screen. Whereas to behave oneself in school means to observe rules of public decorum, television watching requires no such observances, has no concept of public decorum. Whereas in a classroom, fun is never more than a means to an end, on television it is the end in itself." [2]
Could we come to a consensus about the "Article too long" tag that's haunting the top of this article? I really don't think that it is too long: a good portion of the page are Christine's (fantastic and in-depth!) references and footnotes. I know for a fact that there are many other articles that are longer, and I just don't think that the tag is really accurate. Thoughts? Jhfortier ( talk) 23:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
This seems to be the only TV show we have here on this site that does not have a list of it's episodes so I think we should have a page for each season stating each episode. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 01:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC).
Oh yeah I wasn't thinking that there were so many episodes and seasons. I should put your said link into the references section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I've added it now to "External Links". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 ( talk • contribs) 04:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately I have had to remove the link because I clicked on it now and the page came up blank with a message saying it needs content, yet it was not like that yesterday. I have no idea what that was all about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 ( talk • contribs) 02:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I have now managed to reinsert this link and it works fine now. trainfan01 6:53, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
please look at this link from the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8340141.stm
LWT was NOT the first to broadcast
""So Sesame's Street's first British home was HTV and after one series there it was picked up by London Weekend Television in 1971, where it became a Saturday morning fixture.""
it was in fact welsh ITV company HTV! please get it right —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.136.185 ( talk) 19:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
*cough* Additionally, claiming this is the longest running kids' TV programme is wrong: see, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_peter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.181.197 ( talk) 17:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
And I'll add that since I can neither correct this page either via an "anonymous" IP address nor via my perfectly valid account, that I am now opting to believe Wikipiedia is no use in any educational sense.
Funnily enough, I will not correct any more pages.
1,$s/wikipedia/SmallGroupOfWankers/g
So Long and Thanks For All The Fish,
--A (hopefully) regarded contributor.
In the History section, the text says 1969, then it says "later in 1968" which doesn't make sense, then it speaks about 1969 again as the show's debut. I think someone had a different date for the proposal, like 1967 or something like that. That first sentence needs to be rewritten with the correct date before 1968, whatever that may be. 24.10.25.152 ( talk) 21:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
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I suppose it was inevitable that this article would become delisted. I'm not at all surprised, since it became FA way back in '06, when the FA criteria wasn't nearly as strict as it is now. Very little work has been done here, other than reverts of vandalism, for a very long time. This article, as it stands today, is no where near an FA; I doubt that it would survive a GA review. As a result, I would like to see this article improve to the quality its subject matter deserves.
This article needs at least one committed editor willing to ensure that this happens. As an editor who has led Blue's Clues to GA and The Wiggles to FA (and to the main page), I would like to spearhead this project. To that end, I have archived its talk page, so that we can start anew. The trouble is, however, I have absolutely no idea as to where to start. Since WP is about collaboration, I would like to request help from any and all interested parties. For example, I believe that this article needs a complete re-structuring, but input is required to see what that would look like.
To begin, I will put a to-do list, as WP:CO suggests. Much of what it includes will come straight from the FAR. -- Figureskatingfan ( talk) 05:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Why has Sesame Street's de facto age audience gotten younger in recent years?? You might answer with Elmo, but it is believed that Elmo's World was created under the influence of the age audience getting younger. Any less circular reason?? Georgia guy ( talk) 21:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Now that Sesame Street has moved to HD, perhaps it's time for somebody to find an HD screen shot of the title card? -- Kitch ( Talk : Contrib) 02:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I've just finished reading this marvelous book by Michael Davis; it will prove to be an invaluable source for this article and other Sesame Street articles. I highly recommend it for anyone who intends to significantly contribute to this article. Actually, I recommend it for anyone who has an interest in children's television and its history. Not only does it talk about Sesame Street, it talks about Captain Kangaroo (many of Sesame Street's creative folks also worked with Bob Keeshan), Kukla, Fran and Ollie, and Howdy Doody. It's a great read and at times, inspirational. -- Figureskatingfan ( talk) 06:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Just curious why this was removed. Multiple sources have said Jim was reluctant to be pegged as a kids entertainer, something he was sure the show would do to him. And multiple sources have said it was the whole tumult of the era that made him think it might be in the public's best interest if he risked it and became involved with Joan Ganz Cooney's project. -- Zanimum ( talk) 20:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I was just wondering if anyone knew what city sesame street is in?-- 204.118.241.39 ( talk) 01:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, I believe that you have just asked the great existential question of our age.
Notice that The Song never answers the question, "Can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street?" I am certain that many a child, when he or she watches the show, does not have to have it answered. Children under the age of 5, who are really the smartest humans in the world anyway, probably watch the show and notice that Sesame Street looks very familiar to them, that it is very much like their own street. They see the characters on the show, both human and Muppet, and perhaps they think, "They are very much like the people in my neighborhood". So, as I say, there is no need to answer your question: Sesame Street is everywhere, and it is nowhere.
If there is an answer to your question, however, I suppose it would be this: Sesame Street is a fictional place, silly. The show, Sesame Street, is filmed at the Kaufman Astoria Studios in New York City. -- Figureskatingfan ( talk) 07:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
So in that case it shows that this is in New York City. trainfan01 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.50.10.254 ( talk) 14:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Anybody have anything on the way the show ended in the 1980s with these copyright or disclaimer card on the screen with white on blue background and these awful loud bells being played in...I guess a very intense composition for some reason? Coffee4binky ( talk) 13:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
This is me being bold. I have removed these sections and placed them in user space: User:Figureskatingfan/Sesame Street cast. These are badly-written, poorly sourced sections, anyway, and are in need of major improvements. It's my intention to do that, but there needs a lot of research done beforehand. For example, the section discussing The Muppets, as it now stands, consists of a list of character descriptions, and I'm not sure that this is appropriate for this article. There are other articles, such as List of Sesame Street characters that do that, anyway. A more appropriate discussion, however, would be a description of the history of The Muppets, how Henson created and developed them, and how they're built. I may do what I did in improving this article's "Beginnings" section: improve History of Sesame Street, then summarize it here.
By the same token, I'm not sure that a list of all the actors and crewmembers is appropriate here, either. Many of these folks are already discussed in earlier parts of the article, anyway. This kind of information may be better suited over at Muppet Wiki. I need to think about how to handle this, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'm open to hearing them. To be honest, I'm a little surprised that my large-scale edits up to this point haven't been greeted with more than the occasional vandalism. I'm surprised this isn't a more controversial article, but I haven't found that to be the case up to now. -- Christine ( talk) 20:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Tonight I reverted an anonymous IP's removal of this section. [1] Perhaps you're wondering why I did that, taking this edit into consideration, where I basically did the same thing. The difference, however, is that I provided an edit summary and explained my actions on this talk page. It doesn't mean, though, that what the IP did was a bad idea; I suspect that when I arrive at that section, it may be deleted again, because, as I suspect was the purpose of the edit in question, the content may not be appropriate for this article. It's my intention to create either a section or a subsection (under "Reception") entitled "Influence" and perhaps this content belongs better there. I have to write it first, of course. In the meantime, because we may use the information in this section, I reverted the edit and put a warning on the IP's talk page. -- Christine ( talk) 04:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
The page lists that there have been over four thousand episodes of Sesame Street; I'm quite sure this isn't accurate. IMDB has 182 episodes listed on their site, which also seems extremely inaccurate. Any references to the actual number of episodes would be greatly appreciated! Jhfortier ( talk) 07:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
"'Sesame Street was also criticized for the presence of strong single women on the show" I'm wondering if this quote could be clarified, because it is a bit confusing when juxtaposed with the quotation from NOW in the next paragraph about the women being too subservient. From the reference, it was a singular Louisiana critic who made the comment about strong single females. Could we clarify it by indicating that it was a minority opinion, especially given the number of women's liberation movements in the 1970s? I'll try to write up a draft a bit later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhfortier ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
I think that the first paragraph in this section is a sufficient summary, especially given that there are two unique articles dealing with international co-productions (one dealing with the series, another addressing the characters). Removing the lengthy list of series and dates would help to shorten this article (which is already tagged as being too long) and improve readability. Thoughts? Jhfortier ( talk) 06:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Thoughts on the placement of the lyrics to the theme song in this article? I'm not sure that they add to or enhance the article overall? Jhfortier ( talk) 18:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Looking at this article, one of the longest sections is the merchandising section. I think I might create a separate page for the merchandise of Sesame Street, possibly including the home videos as well. I think a quick summary in the main article with a link to the new page would reduce the length quite substantially and increase the readability. If nobody has any objections, I'll start on that in the next few days. Jhfortier ( talk) 00:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
where it lists the production companies on the page there is a typo error, it says megnetic dreams, when in fact it is magnetic dreams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.124.85 ( talk) 02:16, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering whether the Google Doodles that are running at the moment should be mentioned in the article...? Billinghamj ( talk) 19:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I think the Google Doodles should be mentioned; but I also think it important to remind readers just how short-sighted Google has proven -- yet again -- in privileging the 40th anniversary of Sesame Street over the (infinitely more important) 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall.
While I wouldn't want to deny the cultural significance of Sesame Street, I think it important for the article to acknowledge the (growing, if web-bound) controversy over this strangely narcissistic move on the part of the Americano-centric Google. In this connection, see this page: http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/021136.html . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homunculus5 ( talk • contribs) 11:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
That's a fair point; indeed, the issue, something of an elephant in the room, seems to have attracted disconcertingly attention. Regardless of Sesame Street's cultural importance, it's an enormous indictment of Google that the search-engine should ignore the significance of one of the most important moments of the twentieth century; and in *this* context, the protracted celebration of a motley crowd of muppets borders on the polymorphously perverse! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.248.1.11 ( talk) 21:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
The work of Sesame Street, in its own way, is similar to my work in the sense that [it's] fundamentally about universal access to preschool education and my work is universal access to knowledge. We both play a role in what I think has become much bigger than the time when Sesame Street started: the world of informal learning" (p. 303).
I'm sorry. What I said was inappropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.248.1.11 ( talk) 11:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
(I got things out of proportion, and reacted in ridiculously pompous and, in the context, unpleasant way; I very much hope that you and your children enjoy the 40th series, and that Sesame Street continues to do as much good for as many people as it clearly has since 1969.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.248.1.11 ( talk) 11:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I see that Rolling Stone published a list of notable musical moments from the show. Would a page along the lines of List of Sesame Street Musical Guest Appearances be a useful addition to Wikipedia? Seems like it to me, but I thought I'd check with folks who have spent time on the topic lately. Thanks, William Pietri ( talk) 06:36, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
An anonymous IP has added the below quote to this article's "Reception" section. I reverted it because it was a direct quote from Amusing Ourselves to Death. A more appropriate edit would be to summarize Postman's criticism. As a matter of fact, it's my intention to incorporate it, but I just haven't been able to get around to it yet. Therefore, I'm cutting and pasting the quote here, for future use. -- Christine ( talk) 19:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
One notable critic of Sesame Street's standing as an educational milestone was Neil Postman, who explained in his 1985 book Amusing Ourselves to Death that "'Sesame Street' encourages children to love school only if school is like 'Sesame Street.' Which is to say, we now know that 'Sesame Street' undermines what the traditional idea of schooling represents. Whereas a classroom is a place of social interaction, the space in front of a television set is a private preserve. Whereas in a classroom, one may ask a teacher questions, one can ask nothing of a television screen. Whereas school is centered on the development of language, television demands attention to images. Whereas attending school is a legal requirement, watching television is an act of choice. Whereas in school, one fails to attend to the teacher at the risk of punishment, no penalties exist for failing to attend to the television screen. Whereas to behave oneself in school means to observe rules of public decorum, television watching requires no such observances, has no concept of public decorum. Whereas in a classroom, fun is never more than a means to an end, on television it is the end in itself." [2]
Could we come to a consensus about the "Article too long" tag that's haunting the top of this article? I really don't think that it is too long: a good portion of the page are Christine's (fantastic and in-depth!) references and footnotes. I know for a fact that there are many other articles that are longer, and I just don't think that the tag is really accurate. Thoughts? Jhfortier ( talk) 23:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
This seems to be the only TV show we have here on this site that does not have a list of it's episodes so I think we should have a page for each season stating each episode. trainfan01 —Preceding undated comment added 01:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC).
Oh yeah I wasn't thinking that there were so many episodes and seasons. I should put your said link into the references section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I've added it now to "External Links". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 ( talk • contribs) 04:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately I have had to remove the link because I clicked on it now and the page came up blank with a message saying it needs content, yet it was not like that yesterday. I have no idea what that was all about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 ( talk • contribs) 02:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I have now managed to reinsert this link and it works fine now. trainfan01 6:53, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
please look at this link from the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8340141.stm
LWT was NOT the first to broadcast
""So Sesame's Street's first British home was HTV and after one series there it was picked up by London Weekend Television in 1971, where it became a Saturday morning fixture.""
it was in fact welsh ITV company HTV! please get it right —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.136.185 ( talk) 19:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
*cough* Additionally, claiming this is the longest running kids' TV programme is wrong: see, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_peter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.181.197 ( talk) 17:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
And I'll add that since I can neither correct this page either via an "anonymous" IP address nor via my perfectly valid account, that I am now opting to believe Wikipiedia is no use in any educational sense.
Funnily enough, I will not correct any more pages.
1,$s/wikipedia/SmallGroupOfWankers/g
So Long and Thanks For All The Fish,
--A (hopefully) regarded contributor.
In the History section, the text says 1969, then it says "later in 1968" which doesn't make sense, then it speaks about 1969 again as the show's debut. I think someone had a different date for the proposal, like 1967 or something like that. That first sentence needs to be rewritten with the correct date before 1968, whatever that may be. 24.10.25.152 ( talk) 21:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)