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The original version of this article is adapted from public domain text at http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/gorskii.html , accessed on 27 January 2004.
Information about new color composites quoted from public domain text at http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/prokhtml/prokcolor.html , accessed on 12 October 2004.
The information that Prokudin-Gorskii didn't have color printing method seems wrong. He used color printing method "carbo", published number of color postcards and had color printing company. Two of his color prints are published in the Svetlana Garanina's excellent biography article at: http://www.prokudin-gorsky.ru/downloads.shtml It contains some other details and corrections relative to LOC's exposition biography.
Honza
This page is becoming a photo gallery. In future, people can go to the commons site if they want to view all these pictures, and I reccomend only a selection be shown in the actual page. Dave 11:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
This article contains a lot of self-references. I'm thinking of the Gallery header, which should be removed or reworked entirely, and List of photographs, which is entirely self-referencing and even wikilinks to a category within the article. What do you think? Jobjörn ( Talk ° contribs) 00:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
From where are the hi-resolution versions of theimages taken? The LOC on-line exhibit doesn't seem to have any pictures at such a high resolution. 70.226.144.242 03:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
ah, I see. I guess I just wasn't looking hard enough: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/p?pp/prok:@band(color+rendering) has resonably high resolutions for a lot of the pictures. 70.226.144.242 03:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I failed this GA because, if it's supposed to be some kind of biography, it's just a stub. I'm not failing it based on length, but on information. The only information in here is about his photography; no biological, early life, relationship info. Also several small, but important things:
Now you might term it a selfie.... :-) Actio ( talk) 02:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
-- Dark Kubrick 19:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Moved from article page. Prokudin-Gorskii's photos appear in the Category:Prokudin-Gorskii images and the following articles:
Sochi | Gagra | Lugano | Staritsa | Ostashkov | Torzhok | Kem (town) | Vladikavkaz | Ufa | Kirillo-Belozersky Monastery | Vorotynsky | Volga-Baltic Waterway | Trans-Siberian Railway | Lavr Proskuryakov | Dimitry of Rostov | Vladimir | Ladoga | Bacchá | Uglich | Zubtsov | Pederasty | Prisoner of war | World War I | Kostroma | Alim Khan | Itchan Kala | Mozhaysk | Belozersk | Polotsk | Still life | Rostov | Solovki | Solovetsky Monastery | Dagestan | Yurt | Windmill | Samarkand | Uzbek | Tajiks | Smolensk | Cathedral of the Assumption, Smolensk | Kremlin | Daugavpils | Rzhev | Lake Sterzh | Sterzh Cross | Karelia | Borjomi | Tobolsk | Tyumen | Zlatoust | Petrozavodsk | Lodeinoe Pole | Poppy | Melon | Emir | Lake Ladoga | Chusovaya | Tian Shan | Chechenya | Tea | Cotton | Electrical generator | History of Siberia | Hookah -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.4.133.250 ( talk • contribs) 21:28, 3 October 2006.
One thing that may be of interest and IMHO we should mention is what sort of exposure time are we talking about here? Obviously it's going to depend a lot of the conditions and I would assume it would be about 3x normal exposure times for those days but many people would probably have no idea what that would be. Nil Einne 16:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking at the ghosting caused people who are most likely walking, at animals like cats, horses etc., and at the smoke from factory chimneys the combined exposure time of the three images cannot have been longer than a few seconds on a sunny day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.183.16.154 ( talk) 16:14, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
The entity(ies) on the railroad tracks (three colored blotches in color, three ghosts in black and white) at http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg and http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/prok.01571/?co=prok could be relevant to deduction of the time-lapse between exposures, IF you know that entity's speed, how to translate the length of track in the flat photo to length of track in real life, etc. 2604:2000:C6AA:B400:206C:BE94:70F5:F5C ( talk) 05:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
That guy's photographs look newer than the captions say they are. I think the color might have been added on later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scott Gall ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg
I've seen different ways of spelling Prokudin-Gorsky's full name, so I did a google search to see which way of spelling gave the most hits. Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii gave around 25,000 results, while Sergey Mikhaylovich Prokudin-Gorsky only gave about 250 hits. Even when omitting his middle name, Sergei Prokudin-Gorskii had overwhelmingly more hits than Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky. Therefore I think the name of this article should be changed into Sergei Prokudin-Gorskii.
/Cyan
Ah, I see. Thanks for informing me. /Cyan
Looking at where many of his works are housed, The Library of Congress, shows Gorsk"ii". Not to mention many of the citations in this very article have the "ii" spelling. I've also seen other links to this page with the "ii" and "y" in Wikipedia on the Color Photography page specifically. I understand Wikipedia has guidelines for the ий ending to his name, but I'm curious if there should be a mention on this page? Something more prominent in order to help readers understand there are multiple ways to spell it due to the English translation. If we add a small snippet at the bottom of the page it could help curb public confusion on which is the correct spelling, and can keep some sort of silly spelling edit war from happening across the site. [1] [2] Omnius ( talk) 14:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
References
It seems that this article should be split into article on three color photography, technique pioneered by Louis Ducos du Hauron, Adolf Miethe and others and mastered by Prokudin-Gorsky and the remainder of article about Prokudin-Gorsky life and work.
-- Honza ( talk) 14:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting to read Prokudin-Gorsky's publications and fill in some details of his work. None of the journals seem to be freely available online however. I tried finding the patents mentioned in the article, and stumbled upon a bit more than I expected. Please do something to the table if it's too big here.
Number | Submitted | Granted | Name | Applicant | Residency |
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GB 191029586 | 1910-12-20 | 1911-07-06 | An Improved Method of Producing Kinematographic Pictures in Colors | Serge Prokudin-Gorsky & Serge Maximowich | Saint Petersburg |
FR 424895 | 1911-01-14 | 1911-03-24 | Méthode pour la projection de tableaux cinématographiques | MM. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky & Serge de Maximowitch | Russia |
DE 322202 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-08 | Elektrischer Zeitschalter | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 327840 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-08 | Vorrichtun zur Behandlung photographischer Platten mit Flüssigkeiten | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 334089 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-08 | Kopierapparat | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 335138 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-16 | Vorrichtung zum Herstellen kinematographischer Filme in natürlichen Farben | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 337819 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-16 | Photographische Kamera zur Aufnahme von Teilnegativen für Bilder in Naturfarben | Serge de Prokoudine Gorsky | Konnerud |
DK 26698 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-07 | Apparat til Behandling af fotografiske Plader og lignende med Vædsker | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
DK 28930 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-07 | Kopiereapparat til Fremstilling af Diapositiver | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
DK 28991 | 1918-11-09 | 1921-12-03 | Fotografisk Kamera til Optagelse af Delnegativer for Billeder i naturlige Farver | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
DK 29042 | 1918-11-09 | 1921-12-10 | Apparat til Fremstilling af farvede kinematografiske Film | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
FR 500797 | 1919-06-18 | 1920-01-07 | Perfectionnements apportés à la production des vues en couleurs telles notamment que celles pour projections photographiques et cinématographiques | M. Serge de Prokudine-Gorsky | Norway |
US 1373311 | 1919-07-17 | 1921-03-29 | Apparatus for the Treatment of Photographic Negatives or the like with Liquids | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
US 1413873 | 1919-07-17 | 1922-04-25 | Printing Apparatus for the Production of Diapositives | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
US 1435283 | 1919-07-17 | 1922-11-14 | Production of Colored Diapositives | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
FR 503375 | 1919-08-30 | 1920-03-16 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour le traitement, par des liquides, des articles tels que les négatifs photographiques | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 503376 | 1919-08-30 | 1920-03-16 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour le tirage des diapositifs en couleurs | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 503377 | 1919-08-30 | 1920-03-16 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils au moyen desquels un circuit peut être fermé pendant un certain temps | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 525895 | 1919-08-30 | 1921-06-17 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour la photographie des couleurs, applicables à la cinématographie | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 541192 | 1919-08-30 | 1922-04-28 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour le tirage des diapositifs cinématographiques en couleurs | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
US 1375175 | 1919-09-20 | 1921-04-19 | Photographic Camera for Taking up Part Negatives for Naturally Colored Pictures | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
US 1412089 | 1919-09-20 | 1922-04-11 | Apparatus for the Production of Colored Cinematographic Films | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
GB 135166 | 1919-09-26 | 1921-02-24 | A New or Improved Printing Apparatus for the Production of Diapositives | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 362107 GB 168100 US 1443012 |
1920-04-20 & 1921-01-12 1920-04-20 & 1921-01-12 1921-02-23 |
1921-02-25 1921-08-22 1923-01-23 |
Verfahren zur Herstellung von Dreifarbenphotographien Improvements in and relating to Three-colour Photography |
Sergius de Procoudine-Gorsky Serge Michael de Procoudine-Gorsky Serge Michael de Procoudine-Gorsky |
Sutton, London Sutton, London Sutton, London |
GB 178981 | 1921-02-09 | 1922-05-04 | Improvements in and relating to Colour Photography | Serge Michael Procoudine-Gorsky | Sutton, London |
GB 185161 | 1921-04-30 | 1922-08-30 | Improvements in and relating to Optical Systems for Photographic Cameras | Professor Serge Michael de Prokoudine Gorsky | Sutton, London |
FR 541361 | 1921-09-21 | 1923-05-01 | Perfectionnements apportés à la photographie en trois couleurs, et plus particulièrement aux diapositifs cinématographiques en couleurs | M. Serge Michaël de Procoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
CA 215991 | 1922-02-21 | Photography | Serge de Prokaudine-Gorsky | ||
US 1456427 | 1922-05-11 | 1923-05-22 | Optical System for Photographic Cameras | Serge Michael de Procoudine-Gorsky | Nice |
FR 551758 | 1922-05-20 | 1923-01-12 | Perfectionnements apportés aux systèmes optiques pour appareils photographiques | M. Serge Michael de Procoudine Gorsky | Alpes-Maritimes |
CA 219697 | 1922-06-20 | Printing apparatus for the production of diapositives | Serge de Procoudine Gorsky | ||
CA 219698 | 1922-06-20 | Coloured picture camera | Serge de Procoudine Gorsky | ||
CA 219699 | 1922-06-20 | Apparatus for the production of coloured kinematographic films | Serge de Procoudine Gorsky | ||
CA 227393 | 1922-12-26 | Three colour photography | Serge Michael Procoudin Gorsky | ||
FR 589422 FR 30060 US 1709569 GB 243338 GB 246519 |
1924-11-19 1925-01-26 1925-11-11 1925-11-10 1926-01-25 |
1925-02-20 1925-10-06 1929-04-16 1926-08-19 1926-09-23 |
Procédé d'insolubilisation de la gélatine, ses applications et produits en résultant First addition to FR589422 |
MM. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow MM. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow Professor Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow |
Alpes-Maritimes Alpes-Maritimes Nice Nice Nice |
DE 445513 | 1924-12-19 | Verfahren zur Herstellung von Gelatine-Reliefbildern | S. Procoudine Gorsky & Cie | Nice | |
DE 478233 FR 622688 US 1812981 GB 265630 |
1926-02-08 1926-02-08 1927-01-31 1927-02-07 |
1926-03-05 1927-03-07 1931-07-07 1928-06-07 |
Verfahren zur Herstellung von zur Übertragung geeigneten Bromsilbergelatinebildern durch doppelte Entwicklung Perfectionnements aux procédés de report d'images au gélatino-bromure d'argent et leurs applications |
Société de Photochimie "Elka" Société de Photochimie "Elka" Michel Procoudine-Gorsky Société de Photochimie Elka |
Nice Alpes-Maritimes Paris Paris |
CA 260540 | 1926-05-11 | Gelatine preparation | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow | ||
CH 128493 | 1927-01-31 | 1928-11-01 | Procédé de report d’images au gélatino-bromure d’argent | Société de Photochimie Elka | Nice |
CH 129608 | 1927-07-30 | 1929-01-02 | Procédé pour l'obtention d'une photographie en couleurs | Prof. Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Cormeilles-en-Parisis |
DE 489901 GB 293038 BE 352521 |
1927-07-30 1928-06-25 1928-06-30 |
1928-07-01 1929-02-14 1928-07-31 |
Verfahren zur Herstellung von mehrfarbigen Lichtbildern, insbesondere nach dem dreifarbigen Verfahren, bei welchem die Positivbilder, nacdem sie in Jodsilber-Bilder übergeführt wurden, mit Farbstofflösungen behandelt werden Improvements in or relating to Colour Photography |
Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky Professor Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky Monsieur Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky |
Cormeilles-en-Parisis Cormeilles-en-Parisis Cormeilles-en-Parisis |
FR 656562 | 1928-06-27 | 1929-01-02 | Procédé pour l'obtention d'une photographie en couleurs, sur toutes matières quelles qu'elles soient | M. Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Seine-et-Oise |
CA 292081 | 1929-08-13 | Colour photography | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | ||
AT 119498 | 1928-06-30 | 1930-05-15 | Verfahren zur Herstellung von Farbenphotographien | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | Cormeilles-en-Parisis |
FR 763539 | 1933-11-06 | 1934-02-12 | Dispositif optique permettant l'obtention d'images mutiples pour la photographie et la projection | MM. Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Michel Selentzoff & Alexis Poutiloff | Seine-et-Oise |
Patents by colleagues:
GB 191314142 | 1913-06-18 | 1914-02-26 | Improvements in or relating to the Exhibition of Kinematographic Pictures in Natural Colours | Serge Maximowitsch | Saint Petersburg |
FR 459467 | 1913-06-19 | 1913-09-06 | Procédé pour la projection d’images cinématographiques en couleurs naturelles | M. Serge Maximowitsch | Russia |
FR 576879 | 1924-02-07 | 1924-05-22 | Procédé d'obtention d'images en couleurs naturelles sur papier, verre, ou autres surfaces | M. Dimitri Procoudine-Gorsky | Alpes-Maritimes |
I couldn't find anything Italian even though the article claims he had patents there too. Anything feel like digging in to see if these have anything understandable? :) -- Anttique ( talk) 13:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I had to struggle to make sense out of the terminology of "red", "green", and "blue for the filters in light of the cyan, magenta, and yellow at http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg . The text "; or used to make photographic or mechanical prints in the complementary colors cyan, magenta and yellow," was of no help at first. To most people, the complementary colors of "red, green, and blue" are "green, red, and orange" respectively. I was still puzzled until I read the article on Complementary Colors to find that in another system those are cyan, magenta, and yellow. Might you rewrite it like this: "; or used to make photographic or mechanical prints in the colors complementary to red (cyan), to green (magenta) and to blue (yellow)"? Even the addition of the word "respectively" would have made it easier than it was. I DID eventually catch on but it was a lot of head-scratching, work, and I had to read another article. I'd like the next reader not to have to work so hard. Also, mightn't the next reader NOT work so hard to make sense but just give up and quit reading BEFORE "getting it"? Please revise. Thanks. 2604:2000:C6AA:B400:206C:BE94:70F5:F5C ( talk) 05:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
With respect to the horse and rider (three colored blotches at) http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg and in black and white, offering many sizes http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/prok.01571/?co=prok This article makes it clear that the figure on the railroad tracks is moving away from us. The first exposure was
and the last exposure was
All of that must be true to agree with this article's statements on which spot on the negative and which color would be done first, and which last, and it's not likely this article is wrong on those points.
If the figure is moving away from us, any ideas what it is? In a download of the largest size of the b/w's Yellow shot it appears to have the four legs and hooves of a horse coming towards us, but it MUST have been moving in the other direction. It cannot be moving VERY slowly, for the woman where the grass turns into gravel/dirt does not move much between the first and second shutter-clicks. 2604:2000:C6AA:B400:206C:BE94:70F5:F5C ( talk) 07:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
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In the caption of the shot of Pinchas Karlinskiy by a river, what do y'all think of adding a note about the color patches caused by movement of ripples? — Tamfang ( talk) 22:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Surely the blue channel is the one in which the blue shirt is brightest, not darkest! — Tamfang ( talk) 22:31, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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The original version of this article is adapted from public domain text at http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/gorskii.html , accessed on 27 January 2004.
Information about new color composites quoted from public domain text at http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/prokhtml/prokcolor.html , accessed on 12 October 2004.
The information that Prokudin-Gorskii didn't have color printing method seems wrong. He used color printing method "carbo", published number of color postcards and had color printing company. Two of his color prints are published in the Svetlana Garanina's excellent biography article at: http://www.prokudin-gorsky.ru/downloads.shtml It contains some other details and corrections relative to LOC's exposition biography.
Honza
This page is becoming a photo gallery. In future, people can go to the commons site if they want to view all these pictures, and I reccomend only a selection be shown in the actual page. Dave 11:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
This article contains a lot of self-references. I'm thinking of the Gallery header, which should be removed or reworked entirely, and List of photographs, which is entirely self-referencing and even wikilinks to a category within the article. What do you think? Jobjörn ( Talk ° contribs) 00:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
From where are the hi-resolution versions of theimages taken? The LOC on-line exhibit doesn't seem to have any pictures at such a high resolution. 70.226.144.242 03:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
ah, I see. I guess I just wasn't looking hard enough: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/p?pp/prok:@band(color+rendering) has resonably high resolutions for a lot of the pictures. 70.226.144.242 03:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I failed this GA because, if it's supposed to be some kind of biography, it's just a stub. I'm not failing it based on length, but on information. The only information in here is about his photography; no biological, early life, relationship info. Also several small, but important things:
Now you might term it a selfie.... :-) Actio ( talk) 02:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
-- Dark Kubrick 19:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Moved from article page. Prokudin-Gorskii's photos appear in the Category:Prokudin-Gorskii images and the following articles:
Sochi | Gagra | Lugano | Staritsa | Ostashkov | Torzhok | Kem (town) | Vladikavkaz | Ufa | Kirillo-Belozersky Monastery | Vorotynsky | Volga-Baltic Waterway | Trans-Siberian Railway | Lavr Proskuryakov | Dimitry of Rostov | Vladimir | Ladoga | Bacchá | Uglich | Zubtsov | Pederasty | Prisoner of war | World War I | Kostroma | Alim Khan | Itchan Kala | Mozhaysk | Belozersk | Polotsk | Still life | Rostov | Solovki | Solovetsky Monastery | Dagestan | Yurt | Windmill | Samarkand | Uzbek | Tajiks | Smolensk | Cathedral of the Assumption, Smolensk | Kremlin | Daugavpils | Rzhev | Lake Sterzh | Sterzh Cross | Karelia | Borjomi | Tobolsk | Tyumen | Zlatoust | Petrozavodsk | Lodeinoe Pole | Poppy | Melon | Emir | Lake Ladoga | Chusovaya | Tian Shan | Chechenya | Tea | Cotton | Electrical generator | History of Siberia | Hookah -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.4.133.250 ( talk • contribs) 21:28, 3 October 2006.
One thing that may be of interest and IMHO we should mention is what sort of exposure time are we talking about here? Obviously it's going to depend a lot of the conditions and I would assume it would be about 3x normal exposure times for those days but many people would probably have no idea what that would be. Nil Einne 16:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Looking at the ghosting caused people who are most likely walking, at animals like cats, horses etc., and at the smoke from factory chimneys the combined exposure time of the three images cannot have been longer than a few seconds on a sunny day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.183.16.154 ( talk) 16:14, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
The entity(ies) on the railroad tracks (three colored blotches in color, three ghosts in black and white) at http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg and http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/prok.01571/?co=prok could be relevant to deduction of the time-lapse between exposures, IF you know that entity's speed, how to translate the length of track in the flat photo to length of track in real life, etc. 2604:2000:C6AA:B400:206C:BE94:70F5:F5C ( talk) 05:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
That guy's photographs look newer than the captions say they are. I think the color might have been added on later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scott Gall ( talk • contribs) 05:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg
I've seen different ways of spelling Prokudin-Gorsky's full name, so I did a google search to see which way of spelling gave the most hits. Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii gave around 25,000 results, while Sergey Mikhaylovich Prokudin-Gorsky only gave about 250 hits. Even when omitting his middle name, Sergei Prokudin-Gorskii had overwhelmingly more hits than Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky. Therefore I think the name of this article should be changed into Sergei Prokudin-Gorskii.
/Cyan
Ah, I see. Thanks for informing me. /Cyan
Looking at where many of his works are housed, The Library of Congress, shows Gorsk"ii". Not to mention many of the citations in this very article have the "ii" spelling. I've also seen other links to this page with the "ii" and "y" in Wikipedia on the Color Photography page specifically. I understand Wikipedia has guidelines for the ий ending to his name, but I'm curious if there should be a mention on this page? Something more prominent in order to help readers understand there are multiple ways to spell it due to the English translation. If we add a small snippet at the bottom of the page it could help curb public confusion on which is the correct spelling, and can keep some sort of silly spelling edit war from happening across the site. [1] [2] Omnius ( talk) 14:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
References
It seems that this article should be split into article on three color photography, technique pioneered by Louis Ducos du Hauron, Adolf Miethe and others and mastered by Prokudin-Gorsky and the remainder of article about Prokudin-Gorsky life and work.
-- Honza ( talk) 14:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting to read Prokudin-Gorsky's publications and fill in some details of his work. None of the journals seem to be freely available online however. I tried finding the patents mentioned in the article, and stumbled upon a bit more than I expected. Please do something to the table if it's too big here.
Number | Submitted | Granted | Name | Applicant | Residency |
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GB 191029586 | 1910-12-20 | 1911-07-06 | An Improved Method of Producing Kinematographic Pictures in Colors | Serge Prokudin-Gorsky & Serge Maximowich | Saint Petersburg |
FR 424895 | 1911-01-14 | 1911-03-24 | Méthode pour la projection de tableaux cinématographiques | MM. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky & Serge de Maximowitch | Russia |
DE 322202 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-08 | Elektrischer Zeitschalter | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 327840 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-08 | Vorrichtun zur Behandlung photographischer Platten mit Flüssigkeiten | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 334089 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-08 | Kopierapparat | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 335138 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-16 | Vorrichtung zum Herstellen kinematographischer Filme in natürlichen Farben | Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 337819 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-16 | Photographische Kamera zur Aufnahme von Teilnegativen für Bilder in Naturfarben | Serge de Prokoudine Gorsky | Konnerud |
DK 26698 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-07 | Apparat til Behandling af fotografiske Plader og lignende med Vædsker | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
DK 28930 | 1918-11-09 | 1919-07-07 | Kopiereapparat til Fremstilling af Diapositiver | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
DK 28991 | 1918-11-09 | 1921-12-03 | Fotografisk Kamera til Optagelse af Delnegativer for Billeder i naturlige Farver | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
DK 29042 | 1918-11-09 | 1921-12-10 | Apparat til Fremstilling af farvede kinematografiske Film | Professor Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Saint Petersburg |
FR 500797 | 1919-06-18 | 1920-01-07 | Perfectionnements apportés à la production des vues en couleurs telles notamment que celles pour projections photographiques et cinématographiques | M. Serge de Prokudine-Gorsky | Norway |
US 1373311 | 1919-07-17 | 1921-03-29 | Apparatus for the Treatment of Photographic Negatives or the like with Liquids | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
US 1413873 | 1919-07-17 | 1922-04-25 | Printing Apparatus for the Production of Diapositives | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
US 1435283 | 1919-07-17 | 1922-11-14 | Production of Colored Diapositives | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
FR 503375 | 1919-08-30 | 1920-03-16 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour le traitement, par des liquides, des articles tels que les négatifs photographiques | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 503376 | 1919-08-30 | 1920-03-16 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour le tirage des diapositifs en couleurs | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 503377 | 1919-08-30 | 1920-03-16 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils au moyen desquels un circuit peut être fermé pendant un certain temps | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 525895 | 1919-08-30 | 1921-06-17 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour la photographie des couleurs, applicables à la cinématographie | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
FR 541192 | 1919-08-30 | 1922-04-28 | Perfectionnements apportés aux appareils pour le tirage des diapositifs cinématographiques en couleurs | M. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
US 1375175 | 1919-09-20 | 1921-04-19 | Photographic Camera for Taking up Part Negatives for Naturally Colored Pictures | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
US 1412089 | 1919-09-20 | 1922-04-11 | Apparatus for the Production of Colored Cinematographic Films | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
GB 135166 | 1919-09-26 | 1921-02-24 | A New or Improved Printing Apparatus for the Production of Diapositives | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | Konnerud |
DE 362107 GB 168100 US 1443012 |
1920-04-20 & 1921-01-12 1920-04-20 & 1921-01-12 1921-02-23 |
1921-02-25 1921-08-22 1923-01-23 |
Verfahren zur Herstellung von Dreifarbenphotographien Improvements in and relating to Three-colour Photography |
Sergius de Procoudine-Gorsky Serge Michael de Procoudine-Gorsky Serge Michael de Procoudine-Gorsky |
Sutton, London Sutton, London Sutton, London |
GB 178981 | 1921-02-09 | 1922-05-04 | Improvements in and relating to Colour Photography | Serge Michael Procoudine-Gorsky | Sutton, London |
GB 185161 | 1921-04-30 | 1922-08-30 | Improvements in and relating to Optical Systems for Photographic Cameras | Professor Serge Michael de Prokoudine Gorsky | Sutton, London |
FR 541361 | 1921-09-21 | 1923-05-01 | Perfectionnements apportés à la photographie en trois couleurs, et plus particulièrement aux diapositifs cinématographiques en couleurs | M. Serge Michaël de Procoudine-Gorsky | Norway |
CA 215991 | 1922-02-21 | Photography | Serge de Prokaudine-Gorsky | ||
US 1456427 | 1922-05-11 | 1923-05-22 | Optical System for Photographic Cameras | Serge Michael de Procoudine-Gorsky | Nice |
FR 551758 | 1922-05-20 | 1923-01-12 | Perfectionnements apportés aux systèmes optiques pour appareils photographiques | M. Serge Michael de Procoudine Gorsky | Alpes-Maritimes |
CA 219697 | 1922-06-20 | Printing apparatus for the production of diapositives | Serge de Procoudine Gorsky | ||
CA 219698 | 1922-06-20 | Coloured picture camera | Serge de Procoudine Gorsky | ||
CA 219699 | 1922-06-20 | Apparatus for the production of coloured kinematographic films | Serge de Procoudine Gorsky | ||
CA 227393 | 1922-12-26 | Three colour photography | Serge Michael Procoudin Gorsky | ||
FR 589422 FR 30060 US 1709569 GB 243338 GB 246519 |
1924-11-19 1925-01-26 1925-11-11 1925-11-10 1926-01-25 |
1925-02-20 1925-10-06 1929-04-16 1926-08-19 1926-09-23 |
Procédé d'insolubilisation de la gélatine, ses applications et produits en résultant First addition to FR589422 |
MM. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow MM. Serge de Prokoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow Professor Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow |
Alpes-Maritimes Alpes-Maritimes Nice Nice Nice |
DE 445513 | 1924-12-19 | Verfahren zur Herstellung von Gelatine-Reliefbildern | S. Procoudine Gorsky & Cie | Nice | |
DE 478233 FR 622688 US 1812981 GB 265630 |
1926-02-08 1926-02-08 1927-01-31 1927-02-07 |
1926-03-05 1927-03-07 1931-07-07 1928-06-07 |
Verfahren zur Herstellung von zur Übertragung geeigneten Bromsilbergelatinebildern durch doppelte Entwicklung Perfectionnements aux procédés de report d'images au gélatino-bromure d'argent et leurs applications |
Société de Photochimie "Elka" Société de Photochimie "Elka" Michel Procoudine-Gorsky Société de Photochimie Elka |
Nice Alpes-Maritimes Paris Paris |
CA 260540 | 1926-05-11 | Gelatine preparation | Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Nicolas Pozniakow | ||
CH 128493 | 1927-01-31 | 1928-11-01 | Procédé de report d’images au gélatino-bromure d’argent | Société de Photochimie Elka | Nice |
CH 129608 | 1927-07-30 | 1929-01-02 | Procédé pour l'obtention d'une photographie en couleurs | Prof. Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Cormeilles-en-Parisis |
DE 489901 GB 293038 BE 352521 |
1927-07-30 1928-06-25 1928-06-30 |
1928-07-01 1929-02-14 1928-07-31 |
Verfahren zur Herstellung von mehrfarbigen Lichtbildern, insbesondere nach dem dreifarbigen Verfahren, bei welchem die Positivbilder, nacdem sie in Jodsilber-Bilder übergeführt wurden, mit Farbstofflösungen behandelt werden Improvements in or relating to Colour Photography |
Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky Professor Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky Monsieur Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky |
Cormeilles-en-Parisis Cormeilles-en-Parisis Cormeilles-en-Parisis |
FR 656562 | 1928-06-27 | 1929-01-02 | Procédé pour l'obtention d'une photographie en couleurs, sur toutes matières quelles qu'elles soient | M. Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky | Seine-et-Oise |
CA 292081 | 1929-08-13 | Colour photography | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | ||
AT 119498 | 1928-06-30 | 1930-05-15 | Verfahren zur Herstellung von Farbenphotographien | Serge de Procaudine-Gorsky | Cormeilles-en-Parisis |
FR 763539 | 1933-11-06 | 1934-02-12 | Dispositif optique permettant l'obtention d'images mutiples pour la photographie et la projection | MM. Serge de Procoudine-Gorsky & Michel Selentzoff & Alexis Poutiloff | Seine-et-Oise |
Patents by colleagues:
GB 191314142 | 1913-06-18 | 1914-02-26 | Improvements in or relating to the Exhibition of Kinematographic Pictures in Natural Colours | Serge Maximowitsch | Saint Petersburg |
FR 459467 | 1913-06-19 | 1913-09-06 | Procédé pour la projection d’images cinématographiques en couleurs naturelles | M. Serge Maximowitsch | Russia |
FR 576879 | 1924-02-07 | 1924-05-22 | Procédé d'obtention d'images en couleurs naturelles sur papier, verre, ou autres surfaces | M. Dimitri Procoudine-Gorsky | Alpes-Maritimes |
I couldn't find anything Italian even though the article claims he had patents there too. Anything feel like digging in to see if these have anything understandable? :) -- Anttique ( talk) 13:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I had to struggle to make sense out of the terminology of "red", "green", and "blue for the filters in light of the cyan, magenta, and yellow at http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg . The text "; or used to make photographic or mechanical prints in the complementary colors cyan, magenta and yellow," was of no help at first. To most people, the complementary colors of "red, green, and blue" are "green, red, and orange" respectively. I was still puzzled until I read the article on Complementary Colors to find that in another system those are cyan, magenta, and yellow. Might you rewrite it like this: "; or used to make photographic or mechanical prints in the colors complementary to red (cyan), to green (magenta) and to blue (yellow)"? Even the addition of the word "respectively" would have made it easier than it was. I DID eventually catch on but it was a lot of head-scratching, work, and I had to read another article. I'd like the next reader not to have to work so hard. Also, mightn't the next reader NOT work so hard to make sense but just give up and quit reading BEFORE "getting it"? Please revise. Thanks. 2604:2000:C6AA:B400:206C:BE94:70F5:F5C ( talk) 05:57, 19 November 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
With respect to the horse and rider (three colored blotches at) http://content.wdl.org/5587/service/thumbnail/1430167600/1024x1024/1/1.jpg and in black and white, offering many sizes http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/prok.01571/?co=prok This article makes it clear that the figure on the railroad tracks is moving away from us. The first exposure was
and the last exposure was
All of that must be true to agree with this article's statements on which spot on the negative and which color would be done first, and which last, and it's not likely this article is wrong on those points.
If the figure is moving away from us, any ideas what it is? In a download of the largest size of the b/w's Yellow shot it appears to have the four legs and hooves of a horse coming towards us, but it MUST have been moving in the other direction. It cannot be moving VERY slowly, for the woman where the grass turns into gravel/dirt does not move much between the first and second shutter-clicks. 2604:2000:C6AA:B400:206C:BE94:70F5:F5C ( talk) 07:10, 19 November 2015 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
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In the caption of the shot of Pinchas Karlinskiy by a river, what do y'all think of adding a note about the color patches caused by movement of ripples? — Tamfang ( talk) 22:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Surely the blue channel is the one in which the blue shirt is brightest, not darkest! — Tamfang ( talk) 22:31, 1 May 2023 (UTC)