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Wikipedia Biography of Living Persons states: "Be wary of relying on sources that use weasel words and that attribute material to anonymous sources."
CNN is the sole source for this accusation so far that Sergey is a top spy guy. CNN is using anonymous sources in their article.
Wikipedia Biography of Living persons states: "A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law."
To be a foreign spy on American soil is a crime punishable by death. So, this allegation is no small matter. If it turned out to be false, that would be terrible for this man.
The Russian Press Secretary rebuked the allegation in a quote here: http://tass.ru/politika/4065425
The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Press Department also attacked the allegation in a quote here: http://baltnews.ee/in_russia/20170302/1015758159.html
There were also some ambassadors attacking it elsewhere.
Anyway, the point is I don't think the allegation that he is a criminal spy is good enough for wikipedia when it only has one real source in the entire world. If the US government officially calls him a spy, then perhaps that is reason to put it in the article. But if it is only from unnamed sources from CNN, it simply isnt good enough. CNN's source is from "senior government officials" who are eitheir presently in government or retired. This could mean they asked Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders if he was a spy and it would work. Just not good enough. I am removing the allegation until there is more evidence. It is not keeping with the guidelines of the Biography of Living Persons Gunnar123abc ( talk) 18:21, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Just as I feared. I've protected the page for a few hours to motivate participants to discuss the issue on the talk page. Please don't make me protect the page for longer. El_C 18:38, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, is considered by US intelligence to be one of Russia's top spies and spy-recruiters in Washington, according to current and former senior US government officials.
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I am looking at the network of connections as provided by The Washington Post, and the subject of the page was shown the central figure in the network. This network should probably be described on the page, and probably on other pages... My very best wishes ( talk) 16:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
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Wikipedia Biography of Living Persons states: "Be wary of relying on sources that use weasel words and that attribute material to anonymous sources."
CNN is the sole source for this accusation so far that Sergey is a top spy guy. CNN is using anonymous sources in their article.
Wikipedia Biography of Living persons states: "A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law."
To be a foreign spy on American soil is a crime punishable by death. So, this allegation is no small matter. If it turned out to be false, that would be terrible for this man.
The Russian Press Secretary rebuked the allegation in a quote here: http://tass.ru/politika/4065425
The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Press Department also attacked the allegation in a quote here: http://baltnews.ee/in_russia/20170302/1015758159.html
There were also some ambassadors attacking it elsewhere.
Anyway, the point is I don't think the allegation that he is a criminal spy is good enough for wikipedia when it only has one real source in the entire world. If the US government officially calls him a spy, then perhaps that is reason to put it in the article. But if it is only from unnamed sources from CNN, it simply isnt good enough. CNN's source is from "senior government officials" who are eitheir presently in government or retired. This could mean they asked Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders if he was a spy and it would work. Just not good enough. I am removing the allegation until there is more evidence. It is not keeping with the guidelines of the Biography of Living Persons Gunnar123abc ( talk) 18:21, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Just as I feared. I've protected the page for a few hours to motivate participants to discuss the issue on the talk page. Please don't make me protect the page for longer. El_C 18:38, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, is considered by US intelligence to be one of Russia's top spies and spy-recruiters in Washington, according to current and former senior US government officials.
References
{{
cite web}}
: |last=
has generic name (
help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (
link)
I am looking at the network of connections as provided by The Washington Post, and the subject of the page was shown the central figure in the network. This network should probably be described on the page, and probably on other pages... My very best wishes ( talk) 16:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)