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The nature of the USSR was that officially it was a union of nominally independent republics. For example, the Ukrainian SSR was a founder member of the United Nations. This is why nationality is listed as Russian on Korolev's NKVD record. If the modern equivalent of the NKVD held Theresa May in detention, her nationality would be listed as British, not EU. The modern EU, like the former-USSR, is a union of many nations; its citizens take the nationality of one of its constituent members, not the union.-- Toddy1 (talk) 04:44, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Is it possible to hold British or American nationality? Same. The Soviet Union consisted of nations just like the UK consists of countries and the US of states, but in the Olympics, for example, they competed as one country, the Soviet Union. The USSR wasn't like the EU but like the US or the UK.
So yes, Soviet was a nationality. Nationality is a matter of citizenship, and he was a citizen of the USSR. There was no Russian, Belarusian, or Ukrainian citizenship at the time.
ScrapIronIV is wrong, and the fact he uses Romania as an example only shows how little he knows of the subject. Romania was never a part of the Soviet Union, it was a separate country, and same goes for East Germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.57.169.101 ( talk) 22:23, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Here it is necessary to ask the person himself who he considers himself to be. But since the person himself is no longer there, it is necessary to speak as it was at the time when he was alive. And then there was the USSR and Korolev was a Soviet man. 93.81.218.164 ( talk) 08:34, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia should not be a politicized platform... what are the authoritative sources that Korolev is Ukrainian? The fact that he was born on the territory of present-day Ukraine?
according to this logic, Kant is a Russian, not a German philosopher. After all, he was born on the territory of present-day Russia.
so I want to touch on such a topic that the Surname Koroleva is a Russian surname, not a Ukrainian oneso I want to touch on such a topic that the Surname Koroleva is a Russian surname, not a Ukrainian one.so I want to touch on such a topic that the Surname Koroleva is a Russian surname, not a Ukrainian one.
Ukrainian surnames end in -ok , -ec Kalimenk ( talk) 11:00, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
1. Korolev' mother was Ukrainian (Cossack is not nationality as some would like to present in the article). It is simply embarrassing how Russian internet trolls are trying to erase any Ukrainian identity in Wikipedia. 2. Korolev identified himself as Ukrainian in different documents, e.g. https://files.ar25.org/sites/default/files/2204012_korolov-anketa.jpg 188.95.211.239 ( talk) 08:06, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
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The nature of the USSR was that officially it was a union of nominally independent republics. For example, the Ukrainian SSR was a founder member of the United Nations. This is why nationality is listed as Russian on Korolev's NKVD record. If the modern equivalent of the NKVD held Theresa May in detention, her nationality would be listed as British, not EU. The modern EU, like the former-USSR, is a union of many nations; its citizens take the nationality of one of its constituent members, not the union.-- Toddy1 (talk) 04:44, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Is it possible to hold British or American nationality? Same. The Soviet Union consisted of nations just like the UK consists of countries and the US of states, but in the Olympics, for example, they competed as one country, the Soviet Union. The USSR wasn't like the EU but like the US or the UK.
So yes, Soviet was a nationality. Nationality is a matter of citizenship, and he was a citizen of the USSR. There was no Russian, Belarusian, or Ukrainian citizenship at the time.
ScrapIronIV is wrong, and the fact he uses Romania as an example only shows how little he knows of the subject. Romania was never a part of the Soviet Union, it was a separate country, and same goes for East Germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.57.169.101 ( talk) 22:23, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Here it is necessary to ask the person himself who he considers himself to be. But since the person himself is no longer there, it is necessary to speak as it was at the time when he was alive. And then there was the USSR and Korolev was a Soviet man. 93.81.218.164 ( talk) 08:34, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia should not be a politicized platform... what are the authoritative sources that Korolev is Ukrainian? The fact that he was born on the territory of present-day Ukraine?
according to this logic, Kant is a Russian, not a German philosopher. After all, he was born on the territory of present-day Russia.
so I want to touch on such a topic that the Surname Koroleva is a Russian surname, not a Ukrainian oneso I want to touch on such a topic that the Surname Koroleva is a Russian surname, not a Ukrainian one.so I want to touch on such a topic that the Surname Koroleva is a Russian surname, not a Ukrainian one.
Ukrainian surnames end in -ok , -ec Kalimenk ( talk) 11:00, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
1. Korolev' mother was Ukrainian (Cossack is not nationality as some would like to present in the article). It is simply embarrassing how Russian internet trolls are trying to erase any Ukrainian identity in Wikipedia. 2. Korolev identified himself as Ukrainian in different documents, e.g. https://files.ar25.org/sites/default/files/2204012_korolov-anketa.jpg 188.95.211.239 ( talk) 08:06, 13 April 2023 (UTC)