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I changed all the pronoun references to Serenity on this page, changing them away from "it", in keeping with the spirit of the show that Serenity is always reffered to as "she" and is granted a great deal of personification. -- 03:49, 24 September 2005 (UTC) KenoSarawa
I generalized the recently added info about the "crybaby" mimicking Serenity because it was used to simulate a distressed personnel carrier in the pilot. Also, if we get into too much detail about what it actually does imitate, we might need to put it after the spoiler message. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Just a few points about things that've been removed from this part of the article.
Firstly, the cargo area in the nose of the ship. Yes, it was there in the series, but it was covered by a floor grating - hence my statement, 'the bridge has seen few changes, but the forward flooring section has been entirely removed, exposing an extra cargo-storage section in the nose of the ship.' Key word being 'exposing', not 'creating'. So I don't see why this has been removed, since, as far as I can see, it is true and relevant to the article.
Second, the paint job issue. Firstly, a good shot of the paint job of the front of the film Serenity can be found here - firefly.ytmnd.com. That's just when Serenity is going off to barn-swallow the Mule. Now, the model used in the series, from the front, looks like this - www.fireflywiki.org/img/serenity_front.jpg. As is fairly obvious, it's different. Take the cargo bay door, for example. Series version is in browns and greys; film version is blues and silvers. The personnel door in the cargo ramp stands out more in the film version, as well. So IMHO, that part is right, as well, and is relevant to the article.
And about the ship being triple-tiered like an insect... IIRC, 'tier' is similar to 'level', or 'storey'. So having a triple-tiered insect would make no sense. You may be thinking of the head-thorax-abdomen arrangment on an insect. Or I may be wrong about what a tier is. Whichever.
I'm not sure about the galley storage space issue, I'll rewatch Heart of Gold tonight (got the series on DVD). Berle 13:39, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, I've reinserted the deleted material (the parts of which I am sure are correct, anyway - I haven't checked HoG yet)... I didn't realise you got rid of the bit about the new landing legs, either, and as such am seriously wondering if you saw the show's Firefly. :P The landing legs were very, very struttish, with pads at their ends, not full-blown claws with toes. They didn't look in the least bit organic, either, unlike the film's version. Add to that the fact that the film Serenity is blue and silver, not the series' bronze, and so on... anyway. Berle 19:54, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Can it be explained whether the alterations were simply because of improved production values in a higher-budget film than the TV series permitted, or whether the differences are explained by the storyline? Bovineone 05:41, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm assuming that the changes were purely the result of improved production values. No such radical overhaul was mentioned in the film; however, this does not disprove the notion that the ship may have refitted in 'the canon'. Berle 19:19, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
See www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=1665. The top image is the model used in the episode "Serenity", and sometimes in "The Train Job". From "Bushwhacked" onwards the model in the 2nd image is used. -- Jeandré, 2006-07-16 t12:32z
Can someone clarify whether Serenity is a sub- lightspeed vessel, or can go faster than light (FTL)? If specifics are known for its top speed that would also be nice.
I know the colony ships were slower than lightspeed, but I don't know if they've developed it since. The reason I ask is to figure out if the story's self consistent - they would have to have FTL in order to get between the core and outer planets in a matter of days or even months. In our Solar System with a measly 9 planets (give or take a couple), it's some 40 light years from Pluto to Mercury. -- zandperl 05:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Just saw notes on the Firefly page. I'll stick something in about that. -- zandperl 05:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh duh, and I was thinking AU, not ly. -- zandperl 05:46, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
According to the official blueprints, the ships max acceleration is 4.2 g, and the range is 44–400 AU depending on the cargo to fuel — MJBurrage • TALK • 03:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I've encountered some specifications for Serenity (and as far as I can tell, the height/width/length are just about right for Mal to fit through the bridge door). Grain of salt required. lwg3d forums RoadKillian 04:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed the following text because it was incorrectly credited as coming from an Internet posting by Emile Edwin Smith of Zoic Studios, but was really from a fan posting to the "Lightwave Group" forum, citing a supposed posting but failing to provide a source. (The LWG forum itself provides no hint of what its own purpose is, and few of the usual about-links shed any light, no pun intended. One is broken, and the only semi-informative one is clicking on the logo — no words to indicate function. Very anti- least astonishment.)
The following was posted on the internet by a memebr of the films special effects shop. [1]
The, “Serenity” is a Firefly Class interplanetary ship. Originally conceived and built as a medium range cargo ship.
Dimensions and Weights: She is comparable to that of Boeing 747. She is 63 meters long, 40 meters wide and 18 meters tall. Her gross empty weight is 575,000 lbs and her maximum takeoff weight is 945,000 lbs.
Performance and Powerplants: Primarily powered by two wing mounted Smith & Davis SD-2595 (95,000 lb) turbofan and solar induction engines, she can achieve a maximum airspeed of mach 2 (1484 mph) at 1000 Meters EBSL (Earth Based Sea Level,) and mach 30 (22270 mph) at 100,000 Meters (62 miles) EBSL. During the transitional phase from atmospheric to orbital flight the fan blades rotate to collect photons emitted by a solar source to feed the engines keeping the relative thrust ratio comparable to its atmospheric rating. The “Firefly” engine, a Smith & Davis SD-4631 photon reaction drive, was developed on the same principles that drive fusion in a star, (4 1H + 2 oe– → 4He + 2 νc + 6 γ) The reaction produces enough thrust to propel the ship to 643,738 kph (400,000 mph) taking it approximately 16 days to travel 1 AU. (The Astronomical Unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 149,597,871 kilometers.) Although very reliable, this reaction produces large volumes of plasma as hot as the surface of a star. Thermal panels on the outside of the engine dissipate the plasma and heat that builds up during the process typically glowing in a yellowish hue as they cool down.
Handling: The maneuvering of the ship is handled in two different ways. In atmosphere she has flaps and ailerons that in conjunction with the pitch of the side engines control her direction. In space she uses an RCS, (Reaction Control System,) consisting of Hydrazine fueled thrusters that work in a countered measure. For example if she were to turn nose up, thrusters on the back rear of the ship would fire upwards and thrusters of the front nose would fire downwards pushing the tail down and the nose up. Variations on this, tied into the side engines pitch, produce all her movement in space. For landing her side engines rotate vertical and vents on the front of the engine open to allow the engine the “breathe” as she hovers.
Gravity: The Firefly class ships gravity comes from a rotating ring just aft of the ships midsection. It produces a gravity field using the “Peristere Principal,” that also acts as a momentum dampener to allow passengers more freedom of movement during all aspects of flight.
Emile Edwin Smith
Visual Effects Supervisor
Zoic Studios
I tried to Google some key phrases to find the supposed source, but found nothing but the LWG posting. If someone can provide the actual posting that we could verify came from an authoritative source, we could use this information. Even so, however, we shouldn't just paste it wholesale into the article, no more than we would take a page out of someone's book to be part of any Wikipedia article. (Besides, the text as presented is riddled with punctuation and capitalization problems by any English standard, and needs more tweaking to WP standards.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Running this thing at Mach 2 at 3,000 feet altitude strikes me as unreasonable. It is capable of atmospheric travel, but is not particularly aerodynamic. Its shape could well be described as fat and lumpy, not the sort of thing you would push through the air in a hurry. It also seems to have no autopilot, and there is not enough time for a human pilot to recover from mistakes at that speed. Ken McE ( talk) 20:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Thought I'd mention this; I've only seen three or four episodes of Firefly, but I just happened to catch sight of a Union Jack worked into the decor; at the end of Shindig, it's clearly visible as the pattern on a door behind Mal and Inara in their final scene. It's not just a superposition of vertical and diagonal crosses; the diagonal "St. Patrick's Cross" part of the design is off-symmetry, as per the flag. Do any of you more, ah, enthusiastic types have more info on this odd detail?
These people have not lost their past. It just means that someone there is using a symbol of their ancestors, much as you or I might use a coat of arms. The door artist may have British roots, there could be British derived worlds somewhere in this 'verse, or the artist may have run across an old symbol and liked it. Ken McE ( talk) 20:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
In the specs below, it mentions the contractors Mandel & Earls, Ltd., Londinum (London?) Might explain it. Sfryeruk ( talk) 09:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it's appropriate to add [[Category:Firefly characters|Serenity]] and place Serenity into the characters list for Firefly. However I didn't want to make this change without posting here and getting opinions.
From my POV the ship is treated as a character, and for that matter in the DVD's extra features there is a secion on Serenity as a character, this indicates she should be listed along with the others.
" As of 2518-19 Mal has acquire two new crew members, a former Browncoat (Corporal or Lieutenant) & a workshop machinist"
Okay, where's that coming from? It's not in the movie, not in the series, and (Though I haven't read it yet) I'm pretty sure that it's not in the comics either. What other source is there? JBK405 02:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Mothership defines one as:
From this I'd class the Serenity as mothership.
What does everybody else think? Also note that the parent category is becoming increasingly larger, and hence I've been working to neaten things out and reduce the amount in the parent which are more suitable to children categories. thanks/ Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Should there be a mention of the startling resemblance of the Firefly to the "Interstellar Queen" ship design of the Terran Trade Authority series? This was a series of books that wove a fictional future history around a series of paintings of ships. (OOP, but recently re-released as an rpg.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.184.29.2 ( talk • contribs)
According to the official Serenity Blueprint Set by Geoffrey Mandel (Graphic Designer, Serenity) and Timothy M. Earls (Illustrator, Firefly, Set Designer, Serenity).
Serenity Firefly Class Transport General Plans and Schematics Specifications | |
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Class | 03-K64-Firefly |
Type | Mid-Bulk Transport (Class B) |
Drive | Standard Radion/Accelerator Core |
Powerplant | 2 Blue Sun 6V4-178-B31 Trace Compression Blocks 36 RCS Thrusters |
Registration | U.A.P./Hera |
Owner of Record | Capt. Malcolm Reynolds |
Registry No. | 404-E-132-4FE274A |
Mandatory Reg. Markings | None |
Contractors | Allied Spacecraft Corp., Osiris Firefly Ship Works, Ltd., Hera Mandel & Earls, Ltd., Londinum |
Manufacturers' Model No. | 47 Mark IV |
Hull No. | G-82659 |
Keel Laid | August 2459 |
Length Overall | 269'-3" |
Width Overall | 170'-0" |
Height Overall | 78'-8" (Landing Gear Extended) |
Main Hull | L 261'-1" × W 68'-10" × H 74'-5" |
Wingspan | 112'-4" (to Engine Mounts) |
Main Engines | L 62'-8" × W 28'-4" × H 29'-6" |
Weight (Empty) | 282,500 lbs |
Weight (Maximum Takeoff) | 585,000 lbs |
Payload (Maximum) | 164,900 lbs |
Crew | 5 (5 Crew Cabins) |
Accommodation | 18 Maximum (9 Passenger Dorms) |
Standard Acceleration | 4.2 G |
Range (Maximum Fuel) | 400 A.U. |
Range (Maximum Payload) | 44 A.U. |
Standard Complement | 2 Endo/Exo-Atmospheric Shuttles 1 MF-813 Flying Mule |
Other Equipment | 2 Magnetic Grappler Launchers 6 Self-Powered Transmitter Buoys |
How much of this should be in the article? That which fits in the infobox has already been added. — MJBurrage • TALK • 04:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I've seen some of these stats floating around the web and the one that seems to be the most ridiculous is the weight. It would not even be remotely imaginable that the tare weight is 128 tonnes. I'm not sure why such a ludicrously light weight is quoted. An M1 Abrams tank exceeds 60 tonnes. A Boeing 737-800 comes in tare weight of 44 tonnes and half the length, and half the width, and has probably 10-15% of the cubic capacity of the Serenity. Even with the advent of highly advanced materials and extreme exotic metal-alloys it is still hard to imagine that the Serenity would only weigh 128 tonnes. -Snocrash,29/5/14
The long bars under the engine section (the "abdomen", if you will) are definitely not the "extenders" Shepherd Book refers to in the episode "Serenity." Those look to me like a protective element, so that in a rough or reckless landing, the engine section won't crack open like an egg upon contact with the ground.
According to The Official Serenity Blueprints (from Quantum Mechanix http://www.quantummechanix.com/) early versions of the Firefly class had the engine pods right next to the hull, causing buffetting when in atmosphere. Later versions (of which Serenity is one) have the engines mounted on "extenders" or wing-type structures; in other words the extenders are the "wings" of a Firefly. Makes sense I guess.
64.112.219.137 ( talk) 21:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)darthpaul@tc3net.com
Not sure about the spelling for these Whedon 'verse baddies. "Reavers" is used on the "Firefly" DVD. I don't recall that the word ever actually appears on the screen in the series. Perhaps someone has access to original production notes? Webster's Third New International lists both spellings as acceptable for one who robs or despoils by stealth or force. The verb is rieve/reave. Think of the more familiar modern word "bereft," meaning deprived. All these words are of Scottish origin.
So it may be that Josh Whedon had in mind the most infamous of Scottish highwaymen, the incestuous Bean Family, of the Elizabethan/Jacobean era. The Bean Family's attacks on travelers were made even more intolerable by the fact that they murdered their victims to eliminate witnesses–and subsequently cannibalized them to eliminate the evidence. Certainly there were other highwaymen along the lonely, narrow highways of the day. But when this Bean habit of cannibalism reached King James' ears, he was so scandalized that he led his army to rout them from their secret lair in a cave with an underwater entrance which could be reached only during low tide. The entire family was executed in Edinburgh, putting an end to their reiving ways.
Alberto Enriquez ( talk) 01:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
In modern American English it would be "reaver". The "rieve" spelling is archaic. Ken McE ( talk) 20:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm corrently working up a rewrite of this article, and have a few questions I'm thowing out to the masses in order to further my understanding of the subject. Feel free to answer under each specific question. Clear and descriptive answers appreciated, bonus points for WP:reliable sources. Thanks in advance. -- saberwyn 11:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
In the article it says:
The upper deck houses the cockpit at the front, in the "head".
In Naval terms a "head" is a restroom. And given the rest of naval references (ship, captain and so on) it may be appropriate to change it to "front of ship", "bow" or the like. -- Faina windu ( talk) 12:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
The "model" of Serenity in Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog isn't a model at all. It's a bunch of pots hanging from the ceiling Horrible's kitchen. While they appear in all three acts, they can best be seen as the cluster of pots they are in the second act, during the aftermath of Horrible's operation (the second Bad Horse song). Ynos ( talk) 16:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Absent some confirmation from NASA, Serenity is just a commonly used name for space (and water) related things. It was also one of four names that could be voted for just by clicking, where as Colbert and Xenu required entering a choice by typing. One could make the, as yet unsubstantiated, claim that fans of the franchise are the reason for the outcome, but one could also argue that people just chose the easy front runner as a vote against Colbert and/or Xenu. As both a Whedon and Colbert fan myself, I can say that I was voting against Colbert. — MJBurrage( T• C) 13:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Are there any sources other than directly watching the video clip that can be used to show that the vessel in the clip is a Firefly type or Firefly-inspired vessel? -- saberwyn 20:26, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
There is production art of Serenity here at an archive of the official Firefly website on Fox.com. I think it might be of use, but I don't want to meddle. At worst, the link will be here on the talk. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 22:27, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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I changed all the pronoun references to Serenity on this page, changing them away from "it", in keeping with the spirit of the show that Serenity is always reffered to as "she" and is granted a great deal of personification. -- 03:49, 24 September 2005 (UTC) KenoSarawa
I generalized the recently added info about the "crybaby" mimicking Serenity because it was used to simulate a distressed personnel carrier in the pilot. Also, if we get into too much detail about what it actually does imitate, we might need to put it after the spoiler message. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Just a few points about things that've been removed from this part of the article.
Firstly, the cargo area in the nose of the ship. Yes, it was there in the series, but it was covered by a floor grating - hence my statement, 'the bridge has seen few changes, but the forward flooring section has been entirely removed, exposing an extra cargo-storage section in the nose of the ship.' Key word being 'exposing', not 'creating'. So I don't see why this has been removed, since, as far as I can see, it is true and relevant to the article.
Second, the paint job issue. Firstly, a good shot of the paint job of the front of the film Serenity can be found here - firefly.ytmnd.com. That's just when Serenity is going off to barn-swallow the Mule. Now, the model used in the series, from the front, looks like this - www.fireflywiki.org/img/serenity_front.jpg. As is fairly obvious, it's different. Take the cargo bay door, for example. Series version is in browns and greys; film version is blues and silvers. The personnel door in the cargo ramp stands out more in the film version, as well. So IMHO, that part is right, as well, and is relevant to the article.
And about the ship being triple-tiered like an insect... IIRC, 'tier' is similar to 'level', or 'storey'. So having a triple-tiered insect would make no sense. You may be thinking of the head-thorax-abdomen arrangment on an insect. Or I may be wrong about what a tier is. Whichever.
I'm not sure about the galley storage space issue, I'll rewatch Heart of Gold tonight (got the series on DVD). Berle 13:39, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, I've reinserted the deleted material (the parts of which I am sure are correct, anyway - I haven't checked HoG yet)... I didn't realise you got rid of the bit about the new landing legs, either, and as such am seriously wondering if you saw the show's Firefly. :P The landing legs were very, very struttish, with pads at their ends, not full-blown claws with toes. They didn't look in the least bit organic, either, unlike the film's version. Add to that the fact that the film Serenity is blue and silver, not the series' bronze, and so on... anyway. Berle 19:54, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Can it be explained whether the alterations were simply because of improved production values in a higher-budget film than the TV series permitted, or whether the differences are explained by the storyline? Bovineone 05:41, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm assuming that the changes were purely the result of improved production values. No such radical overhaul was mentioned in the film; however, this does not disprove the notion that the ship may have refitted in 'the canon'. Berle 19:19, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
See www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=1665. The top image is the model used in the episode "Serenity", and sometimes in "The Train Job". From "Bushwhacked" onwards the model in the 2nd image is used. -- Jeandré, 2006-07-16 t12:32z
Can someone clarify whether Serenity is a sub- lightspeed vessel, or can go faster than light (FTL)? If specifics are known for its top speed that would also be nice.
I know the colony ships were slower than lightspeed, but I don't know if they've developed it since. The reason I ask is to figure out if the story's self consistent - they would have to have FTL in order to get between the core and outer planets in a matter of days or even months. In our Solar System with a measly 9 planets (give or take a couple), it's some 40 light years from Pluto to Mercury. -- zandperl 05:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Just saw notes on the Firefly page. I'll stick something in about that. -- zandperl 05:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh duh, and I was thinking AU, not ly. -- zandperl 05:46, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
According to the official blueprints, the ships max acceleration is 4.2 g, and the range is 44–400 AU depending on the cargo to fuel — MJBurrage • TALK • 03:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I've encountered some specifications for Serenity (and as far as I can tell, the height/width/length are just about right for Mal to fit through the bridge door). Grain of salt required. lwg3d forums RoadKillian 04:12, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed the following text because it was incorrectly credited as coming from an Internet posting by Emile Edwin Smith of Zoic Studios, but was really from a fan posting to the "Lightwave Group" forum, citing a supposed posting but failing to provide a source. (The LWG forum itself provides no hint of what its own purpose is, and few of the usual about-links shed any light, no pun intended. One is broken, and the only semi-informative one is clicking on the logo — no words to indicate function. Very anti- least astonishment.)
The following was posted on the internet by a memebr of the films special effects shop. [1]
The, “Serenity” is a Firefly Class interplanetary ship. Originally conceived and built as a medium range cargo ship.
Dimensions and Weights: She is comparable to that of Boeing 747. She is 63 meters long, 40 meters wide and 18 meters tall. Her gross empty weight is 575,000 lbs and her maximum takeoff weight is 945,000 lbs.
Performance and Powerplants: Primarily powered by two wing mounted Smith & Davis SD-2595 (95,000 lb) turbofan and solar induction engines, she can achieve a maximum airspeed of mach 2 (1484 mph) at 1000 Meters EBSL (Earth Based Sea Level,) and mach 30 (22270 mph) at 100,000 Meters (62 miles) EBSL. During the transitional phase from atmospheric to orbital flight the fan blades rotate to collect photons emitted by a solar source to feed the engines keeping the relative thrust ratio comparable to its atmospheric rating. The “Firefly” engine, a Smith & Davis SD-4631 photon reaction drive, was developed on the same principles that drive fusion in a star, (4 1H + 2 oe– → 4He + 2 νc + 6 γ) The reaction produces enough thrust to propel the ship to 643,738 kph (400,000 mph) taking it approximately 16 days to travel 1 AU. (The Astronomical Unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 149,597,871 kilometers.) Although very reliable, this reaction produces large volumes of plasma as hot as the surface of a star. Thermal panels on the outside of the engine dissipate the plasma and heat that builds up during the process typically glowing in a yellowish hue as they cool down.
Handling: The maneuvering of the ship is handled in two different ways. In atmosphere she has flaps and ailerons that in conjunction with the pitch of the side engines control her direction. In space she uses an RCS, (Reaction Control System,) consisting of Hydrazine fueled thrusters that work in a countered measure. For example if she were to turn nose up, thrusters on the back rear of the ship would fire upwards and thrusters of the front nose would fire downwards pushing the tail down and the nose up. Variations on this, tied into the side engines pitch, produce all her movement in space. For landing her side engines rotate vertical and vents on the front of the engine open to allow the engine the “breathe” as she hovers.
Gravity: The Firefly class ships gravity comes from a rotating ring just aft of the ships midsection. It produces a gravity field using the “Peristere Principal,” that also acts as a momentum dampener to allow passengers more freedom of movement during all aspects of flight.
Emile Edwin Smith
Visual Effects Supervisor
Zoic Studios
I tried to Google some key phrases to find the supposed source, but found nothing but the LWG posting. If someone can provide the actual posting that we could verify came from an authoritative source, we could use this information. Even so, however, we shouldn't just paste it wholesale into the article, no more than we would take a page out of someone's book to be part of any Wikipedia article. (Besides, the text as presented is riddled with punctuation and capitalization problems by any English standard, and needs more tweaking to WP standards.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Running this thing at Mach 2 at 3,000 feet altitude strikes me as unreasonable. It is capable of atmospheric travel, but is not particularly aerodynamic. Its shape could well be described as fat and lumpy, not the sort of thing you would push through the air in a hurry. It also seems to have no autopilot, and there is not enough time for a human pilot to recover from mistakes at that speed. Ken McE ( talk) 20:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Thought I'd mention this; I've only seen three or four episodes of Firefly, but I just happened to catch sight of a Union Jack worked into the decor; at the end of Shindig, it's clearly visible as the pattern on a door behind Mal and Inara in their final scene. It's not just a superposition of vertical and diagonal crosses; the diagonal "St. Patrick's Cross" part of the design is off-symmetry, as per the flag. Do any of you more, ah, enthusiastic types have more info on this odd detail?
These people have not lost their past. It just means that someone there is using a symbol of their ancestors, much as you or I might use a coat of arms. The door artist may have British roots, there could be British derived worlds somewhere in this 'verse, or the artist may have run across an old symbol and liked it. Ken McE ( talk) 20:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
In the specs below, it mentions the contractors Mandel & Earls, Ltd., Londinum (London?) Might explain it. Sfryeruk ( talk) 09:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I think it's appropriate to add [[Category:Firefly characters|Serenity]] and place Serenity into the characters list for Firefly. However I didn't want to make this change without posting here and getting opinions.
From my POV the ship is treated as a character, and for that matter in the DVD's extra features there is a secion on Serenity as a character, this indicates she should be listed along with the others.
" As of 2518-19 Mal has acquire two new crew members, a former Browncoat (Corporal or Lieutenant) & a workshop machinist"
Okay, where's that coming from? It's not in the movie, not in the series, and (Though I haven't read it yet) I'm pretty sure that it's not in the comics either. What other source is there? JBK405 02:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Mothership defines one as:
From this I'd class the Serenity as mothership.
What does everybody else think? Also note that the parent category is becoming increasingly larger, and hence I've been working to neaten things out and reduce the amount in the parent which are more suitable to children categories. thanks/ Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Should there be a mention of the startling resemblance of the Firefly to the "Interstellar Queen" ship design of the Terran Trade Authority series? This was a series of books that wove a fictional future history around a series of paintings of ships. (OOP, but recently re-released as an rpg.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.184.29.2 ( talk • contribs)
According to the official Serenity Blueprint Set by Geoffrey Mandel (Graphic Designer, Serenity) and Timothy M. Earls (Illustrator, Firefly, Set Designer, Serenity).
Serenity Firefly Class Transport General Plans and Schematics Specifications | |
---|---|
Class | 03-K64-Firefly |
Type | Mid-Bulk Transport (Class B) |
Drive | Standard Radion/Accelerator Core |
Powerplant | 2 Blue Sun 6V4-178-B31 Trace Compression Blocks 36 RCS Thrusters |
Registration | U.A.P./Hera |
Owner of Record | Capt. Malcolm Reynolds |
Registry No. | 404-E-132-4FE274A |
Mandatory Reg. Markings | None |
Contractors | Allied Spacecraft Corp., Osiris Firefly Ship Works, Ltd., Hera Mandel & Earls, Ltd., Londinum |
Manufacturers' Model No. | 47 Mark IV |
Hull No. | G-82659 |
Keel Laid | August 2459 |
Length Overall | 269'-3" |
Width Overall | 170'-0" |
Height Overall | 78'-8" (Landing Gear Extended) |
Main Hull | L 261'-1" × W 68'-10" × H 74'-5" |
Wingspan | 112'-4" (to Engine Mounts) |
Main Engines | L 62'-8" × W 28'-4" × H 29'-6" |
Weight (Empty) | 282,500 lbs |
Weight (Maximum Takeoff) | 585,000 lbs |
Payload (Maximum) | 164,900 lbs |
Crew | 5 (5 Crew Cabins) |
Accommodation | 18 Maximum (9 Passenger Dorms) |
Standard Acceleration | 4.2 G |
Range (Maximum Fuel) | 400 A.U. |
Range (Maximum Payload) | 44 A.U. |
Standard Complement | 2 Endo/Exo-Atmospheric Shuttles 1 MF-813 Flying Mule |
Other Equipment | 2 Magnetic Grappler Launchers 6 Self-Powered Transmitter Buoys |
How much of this should be in the article? That which fits in the infobox has already been added. — MJBurrage • TALK • 04:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I've seen some of these stats floating around the web and the one that seems to be the most ridiculous is the weight. It would not even be remotely imaginable that the tare weight is 128 tonnes. I'm not sure why such a ludicrously light weight is quoted. An M1 Abrams tank exceeds 60 tonnes. A Boeing 737-800 comes in tare weight of 44 tonnes and half the length, and half the width, and has probably 10-15% of the cubic capacity of the Serenity. Even with the advent of highly advanced materials and extreme exotic metal-alloys it is still hard to imagine that the Serenity would only weigh 128 tonnes. -Snocrash,29/5/14
The long bars under the engine section (the "abdomen", if you will) are definitely not the "extenders" Shepherd Book refers to in the episode "Serenity." Those look to me like a protective element, so that in a rough or reckless landing, the engine section won't crack open like an egg upon contact with the ground.
According to The Official Serenity Blueprints (from Quantum Mechanix http://www.quantummechanix.com/) early versions of the Firefly class had the engine pods right next to the hull, causing buffetting when in atmosphere. Later versions (of which Serenity is one) have the engines mounted on "extenders" or wing-type structures; in other words the extenders are the "wings" of a Firefly. Makes sense I guess.
64.112.219.137 ( talk) 21:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)darthpaul@tc3net.com
Not sure about the spelling for these Whedon 'verse baddies. "Reavers" is used on the "Firefly" DVD. I don't recall that the word ever actually appears on the screen in the series. Perhaps someone has access to original production notes? Webster's Third New International lists both spellings as acceptable for one who robs or despoils by stealth or force. The verb is rieve/reave. Think of the more familiar modern word "bereft," meaning deprived. All these words are of Scottish origin.
So it may be that Josh Whedon had in mind the most infamous of Scottish highwaymen, the incestuous Bean Family, of the Elizabethan/Jacobean era. The Bean Family's attacks on travelers were made even more intolerable by the fact that they murdered their victims to eliminate witnesses–and subsequently cannibalized them to eliminate the evidence. Certainly there were other highwaymen along the lonely, narrow highways of the day. But when this Bean habit of cannibalism reached King James' ears, he was so scandalized that he led his army to rout them from their secret lair in a cave with an underwater entrance which could be reached only during low tide. The entire family was executed in Edinburgh, putting an end to their reiving ways.
Alberto Enriquez ( talk) 01:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
In modern American English it would be "reaver". The "rieve" spelling is archaic. Ken McE ( talk) 20:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm corrently working up a rewrite of this article, and have a few questions I'm thowing out to the masses in order to further my understanding of the subject. Feel free to answer under each specific question. Clear and descriptive answers appreciated, bonus points for WP:reliable sources. Thanks in advance. -- saberwyn 11:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
In the article it says:
The upper deck houses the cockpit at the front, in the "head".
In Naval terms a "head" is a restroom. And given the rest of naval references (ship, captain and so on) it may be appropriate to change it to "front of ship", "bow" or the like. -- Faina windu ( talk) 12:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
The "model" of Serenity in Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog isn't a model at all. It's a bunch of pots hanging from the ceiling Horrible's kitchen. While they appear in all three acts, they can best be seen as the cluster of pots they are in the second act, during the aftermath of Horrible's operation (the second Bad Horse song). Ynos ( talk) 16:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Absent some confirmation from NASA, Serenity is just a commonly used name for space (and water) related things. It was also one of four names that could be voted for just by clicking, where as Colbert and Xenu required entering a choice by typing. One could make the, as yet unsubstantiated, claim that fans of the franchise are the reason for the outcome, but one could also argue that people just chose the easy front runner as a vote against Colbert and/or Xenu. As both a Whedon and Colbert fan myself, I can say that I was voting against Colbert. — MJBurrage( T• C) 13:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Are there any sources other than directly watching the video clip that can be used to show that the vessel in the clip is a Firefly type or Firefly-inspired vessel? -- saberwyn 20:26, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
There is production art of Serenity here at an archive of the official Firefly website on Fox.com. I think it might be of use, but I don't want to meddle. At worst, the link will be here on the talk. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 22:27, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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