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I undid an edit by 24.74.117.193 with: Be aware that Sentry has a history of not paying property claims. In Feb 2007, a car dealership burned down in Clover, SC. Neighboring businesses were damaged by the fire, all of which were capture on local TV cameras. Sentry's response is that since they cannot find who is responsible for the fire, any damaged companies are on their own relative to making repairs. '
I think a criticism section might be valid, but it should cite documented problems that people have had with the company. This entry just sounds like someone's personal gripe. It is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. For the record I am not an employee or a policyholder of this company. HornColumbia 03:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
This numbers mention in the article appear to differ from those that are on this page, however, no date is given for those numbers. Thoughts? -- Hypertext ( talk) 21:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Its Sentry Insurance, any of the numbers Sentry puts out are suspect especially reserves. -AK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.189.122 ( talk) 20:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
The IP address range 157.248.0.0 - 157.248.255.255 is assigned to Sentry Insurance company. ARIN Whois. The editor 157.248.5.3 ( talk · contribs) has contributed to this page. Many of his edits have already been reverted as inappropriate. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 17:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be number of back and forth changes on this page lately. I haven't worked on this page in a while, so I think I can be a referee here. I edited the page back to a version I can live with. I've included a justification of these changes below. Let's discuss these here as needed.
- I added back the AM Best rating All insurance companies (and other firms in the financial industries) are rated by outside rating firms such as Standard and Poors or, for most insurers, AM Best. Their ratings measures an insurance companies' ability to pay claims is a good piece of information to include in Wikipedia. If you go to the AM Best page and click on "What links here", you'll see this is common for insurance pages to cite AM Best.
- I added back the list of subsidiaries, but moved them to the infobox:
Insurance companies typically have subsidiaries. See
State Farm Insurance for an example of how other insurance company pages on Wikipedia handle this. Also, if you look at, "What links here", you'll see that the names of many of these companies are redirected here. In this way we don't need numerous pages for what is essentially the same company. They might have been removed for citation issues, but a better way to handle this would be to use the {{
citation needed}}
tag. See
Wikipedia:Citation needed for details.
- External Links
A company's web sit is a valid external link. From there I think we can also assume that a subsidiary's official web site is valid. I added these back, but took out the link text that wasn't Neutral point of view. See Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
- References
Most of the facts here seem to come from the company website. It would be nice to have a more varied source of refs, but, hey, this is still a stub. I added back the general ref that points the company's "about us" page and added a citation for the AM Best fact.
Minimize the number of links
If the subject of the article has more than one official website, then more than one link may be appropriate. However, Wikipedia does not provide a comprehensive web directory to every official website. Wikipedia does not attempt to document or provide links to every part of the subject's web presence or provide readers with a handy list of all social networking sites. Complete directories lead to clutter and to placing undue emphasis on what the subject says.
More than one official link should be provided only when the additional links provide the reader with unique content and are not prominently linked from other official websites. For example, if the main page of the official website for an author contains a link to the author's blog and Twitter feed, then it is not appropriate to provide links to all three. Instead, provide only the main page of the official website in this situation. In other situations, it may be appropriate to provide more than one link, such as when a business has one website for the corporate headquarters and another for consumer information. Choose the minimum number of links that provides readers with the maximum amount of information. Links that provide consistent information are strongly preferred to social networking and communication services where the content changes rapidly and may not comply with this guideline at any given moment in time.
HornColumbia ( talk) 03:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Adding subsidairies back in "Insurance companies typically have subsidiaries. See State Farm Insurance for an example of how other insurance company pages on Wikipedia handle this." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blancour ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
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I undid an edit by 24.74.117.193 with: Be aware that Sentry has a history of not paying property claims. In Feb 2007, a car dealership burned down in Clover, SC. Neighboring businesses were damaged by the fire, all of which were capture on local TV cameras. Sentry's response is that since they cannot find who is responsible for the fire, any damaged companies are on their own relative to making repairs. '
I think a criticism section might be valid, but it should cite documented problems that people have had with the company. This entry just sounds like someone's personal gripe. It is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. For the record I am not an employee or a policyholder of this company. HornColumbia 03:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
This numbers mention in the article appear to differ from those that are on this page, however, no date is given for those numbers. Thoughts? -- Hypertext ( talk) 21:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Its Sentry Insurance, any of the numbers Sentry puts out are suspect especially reserves. -AK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.189.122 ( talk) 20:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
The IP address range 157.248.0.0 - 157.248.255.255 is assigned to Sentry Insurance company. ARIN Whois. The editor 157.248.5.3 ( talk · contribs) has contributed to this page. Many of his edits have already been reverted as inappropriate. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 17:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be number of back and forth changes on this page lately. I haven't worked on this page in a while, so I think I can be a referee here. I edited the page back to a version I can live with. I've included a justification of these changes below. Let's discuss these here as needed.
- I added back the AM Best rating All insurance companies (and other firms in the financial industries) are rated by outside rating firms such as Standard and Poors or, for most insurers, AM Best. Their ratings measures an insurance companies' ability to pay claims is a good piece of information to include in Wikipedia. If you go to the AM Best page and click on "What links here", you'll see this is common for insurance pages to cite AM Best.
- I added back the list of subsidiaries, but moved them to the infobox:
Insurance companies typically have subsidiaries. See
State Farm Insurance for an example of how other insurance company pages on Wikipedia handle this. Also, if you look at, "What links here", you'll see that the names of many of these companies are redirected here. In this way we don't need numerous pages for what is essentially the same company. They might have been removed for citation issues, but a better way to handle this would be to use the {{
citation needed}}
tag. See
Wikipedia:Citation needed for details.
- External Links
A company's web sit is a valid external link. From there I think we can also assume that a subsidiary's official web site is valid. I added these back, but took out the link text that wasn't Neutral point of view. See Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
- References
Most of the facts here seem to come from the company website. It would be nice to have a more varied source of refs, but, hey, this is still a stub. I added back the general ref that points the company's "about us" page and added a citation for the AM Best fact.
Minimize the number of links
If the subject of the article has more than one official website, then more than one link may be appropriate. However, Wikipedia does not provide a comprehensive web directory to every official website. Wikipedia does not attempt to document or provide links to every part of the subject's web presence or provide readers with a handy list of all social networking sites. Complete directories lead to clutter and to placing undue emphasis on what the subject says.
More than one official link should be provided only when the additional links provide the reader with unique content and are not prominently linked from other official websites. For example, if the main page of the official website for an author contains a link to the author's blog and Twitter feed, then it is not appropriate to provide links to all three. Instead, provide only the main page of the official website in this situation. In other situations, it may be appropriate to provide more than one link, such as when a business has one website for the corporate headquarters and another for consumer information. Choose the minimum number of links that provides readers with the maximum amount of information. Links that provide consistent information are strongly preferred to social networking and communication services where the content changes rapidly and may not comply with this guideline at any given moment in time.
HornColumbia ( talk) 03:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Adding subsidairies back in "Insurance companies typically have subsidiaries. See State Farm Insurance for an example of how other insurance company pages on Wikipedia handle this." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blancour ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)