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How come you want to want to rename the article to Sega Megadrive? There is such thing as a Sega Genesis (proof: I have one), so don't rename it. 24.121.73.22 14:31, 23 August 2006 (Pacific Time)
Well it does seem that renaming it to Sega Megadrive will make people think that there is no Sega Genesis. The first years I had mine I never even knew about the Megadrive, but you are not renaming it (nobody is). 24.121.73.22 15:22, 23 August 2006 (Pacific Time)
To clearify some stuff; Sega Genesis was the name used for Sega Mega Drive in USA. Bio Hazard was the Japanese name of Resident Evil, the name Resident Evil is used everywhere else. The same goes for Famicom; as Famicom is the japanese name, and NES is the world name. Everyone in the world (except for Japan, maybe some other asian countries) use the word NES. So even bringing that up as a reason to keep the name as either Sega Genesis or Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis, is redundant and silly, as the argument isn't even remotly close to being sound reason. This Wikipedia, which you all edit, is not the American Wikipedia, it's the English version of Wikipedia, which I might add, includes quite a few countries, not only america. So there is absolutly no rule that says something must be american. The original name, and the name intended for this console was/is Sega Mega Drive, period. Havok (T/ C/ c) 07:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, Most people tha use it are in the USA, right? So it should be the Sega Genesis, Sega Megadrive/Genesis, or just seperate articles. 24.121.73.22 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Right, lets have a quick brainstorm about stuff that needs adding to this article to get to FA status before the SNES. Your favourite console deserves it!. Just add anythhing you think needs adding on to the end.
I think we need to add info about the advertising of the console because, at least hear in the UK, it was the first console to go beyond adverts that were aimed at gamers with "Pirate TV" and "The cyber-razor cut". What were the US campaign(s) like? - X201 22:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
The article about the variations needs a clear rework since the comparisms of the different models are mixed up, for example the PAL MD2 is compared with the PAL MD1 and the JAP MD2 without a clear structure. I've made some suggestions at the talk page but haven't received any input yet. Would be nice if some people would have a look and provide some inputs. -- 32X 00:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
There are like ten references to how much more popular the SNES was. This doesn't need to be mentioned all over the place. in fact the article as a whole seems to go out of its way to portray the system (and Sega) as being weak and vulnerable by comparison. I'm going to try and work on reducing this. Chris Cunningham 11:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The mega drive was actually more succesful then the snes back during the 16 bit era- the snes only appears to have done better as it was supported a lot longer-- Josquius 21:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
This is a question about a recent edit: Was'n the Genesis only released in North America under that brand name? US, Canada, maybe Mexico? Brazil had the Mega Drive, I don't know about the Spanish/English speaking countries. -- 32X 23:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
"The Mega Drive was released in Japan in 29 October 1988 for ¥21,000, almost exactly a year after the first console popularly classed as a 16-bit machine - the NEC PC Engine."
The PC-Engine is an 8-bit machine, as stated in the Wikipedia article linked from this one. Someone might rewrite that sentence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guest Account ( talk • contribs) .
I actually think technical spec best left as it is as the technical terms were best described using lists.
203.81.161.151 13:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)HHA
I did some research and decided to make some corrections to the market share numbers put up there earlier that claimed Sega's market share had fell to 35% in 1994. That is in fact wrong, Nintendo was at 35%, and they recovered to 54% in months of July, August, and September.
I cited the source below, which goes on to mention that Sega had still carried that year with "with a 55% lead in 16-bit sales in the first nine months of 1994 compared with 52% at the same time a year ago"
Nintendo Retakes 16-Bit Sales Crown --- The Christmas Battle Opens As Ex-Champion Sega Shows New `Knuckles' By Jim Carlton. Wall Street Journal. (Eastern edition). New York, N.Y.: Oct 28, 1994. pg. B.5
The Sega page lists that Sega has 65% market share and yet the SNES page lists that the market shares were approximately equal and cites a source. -- Elangsto 03:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I think this article would benefit from an image of a Mega Drive II. Unfortunately, I no longer have one, so someone else should take a photo. -- Mouse Nightshirt 00:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Done - X201 10:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
How can Sonic the Hedgehog be listed as the top selling game if you look at this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_computer_and_video_games#Sega_Mega_Drive.2FSega_Genesis Zebbe 17:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
"The Mega Drive continued to hold on to a healthy fan base composed significantly of RPG and sports games fans."
i personaly dont think that this statement is accurate. while i am aware that the megadrive had alot of sports games on i seem to remember very few "role play games" of cource there is phantasy star howeever i can list very few others. to my knowledge the snes was more noted for its RPG while the megadrive seemedattractive to the development of platform games?? perhaps we should consider changing the paragraph or finding some citation to support the statement-- Dr noire 19:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree! -- Tirian 23:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)'
It had a handful of decent RPGs, namely the Phantasy Star series and the Shining Force strategy RPG series (which was recently re-released on Virtual Console), as well as the beloved Lunar 1 & 2 games on the Sega CD, and Snatcher on CD, and 3x3 Eyes in Japan on the Mega CD. There were some other great RPG-ish games like Landstalker and Light Crusader. But it was never considered as great of an Rpg system as the SNES as they had Enix and Square. Also the version of Ys 3 on the Genesis is the best (in my opinion). Some say AD&D: Warriors of the Sun is good, as well as Shadowrun, but I haven't played those.
Epicenter is a person who has barely any concepts on how electronics work (for example see http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2016&page=6), plus his site is mostly made up from articles stolen from elsewhere (such as the Ecco and sonic crackers one), so I removed the link for his genesis oc guide before someone ruins his console because of this kids unverified techno-blabber copypasta guides. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.0.148.54 ( talk) 18:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC). Also his site had unauthorized roms for download anyway.
I'm curious as to why the system is referred to as the "Mega Drive" for "consistency". It is true that the system went by this name in Japan, but this Wikipedia article is in the English Wikipedia and in English vernacular, it is referred to as the "Sega Genesis". I'm asking because I want to know if this was done because it is "cool". I think the more reasonable thing to do would be to target the article to what 98% of the English speaking world would recognize the console as. Drumpler 17:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
it seems unlikely that 98% of people who speak english are american —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
62.136.138.161 (
talk)
17:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
it is estimated to be 70%, which is still a significantly large number. 155.138.250.6 07:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I would venture a guess and say that in all the NTSC countries (Canada, the USA, and Mexico), the system sold more than in all the official English speaking PAL countries (the UK, Australia, and South Africa, mainly). Since this is on the English speaking portion of the website, and the NTSC regions that speak English outnumber the population of the English speaking PAL regions (like was mentioned above, 70% of English speakers are American), I think it would be most fair to change the name to Genesis on en.wikipedia.org, and leave it Mega Drive on non-English speaking portions of the site.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language#Geographical_distribution
freehunter 07:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to point out that the Console Passion link is (a) a commercial site and (b) not, as it claims, a complete list of all PAL Megadrive games (it is missing all of the Australian exclusives for a start ..). For a much more comprehensive list I would recommend either Genesis Collective, Digital Press or guardiana.net
Guardiana is probably the best for reference purposes, as it includes many cover scans, screenshots etc.
-- Tirian 23:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Someone please write the Europe section, the grammar is terrible. ... in America! 14:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be something about the 6 button pad in the article? It was released a long while after the original Megadrive/ Genesis wasn't it? Doom jester 12:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a curiosity question. Anyone else lamenting the fact that "Mega Drive" won out over "Genesis" as the name of the article? - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.215.97 ( talk • contribs) 08:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I am totally bummed out. 155.138.3.20 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, since the Genesis sold so well in America (better than anywhere else? ) it ought to be called this for its English article. Sega was originated by the american David Rosen, too, and it always had an American attitude (think of games like Michael Jackson's Moonwalker and Streets of Rage, as well as Joe Montana's Football). Also Sonic 2 was made here with the help of the Japanese designers.
There are currently two categories, one has to go.
I don't care which one will remain, but one has to go. With enough suggestions we could start an CfD that doesn't result in "no consensus". -- 32X 21:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I've moved the contents into Category:Sega Mega Drive. Category names should always match the naming of related articles and/or child/parent categories where possible. Garrett Talk 22:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I think that some one should post the different hardware revisions of the genesis because i know there are 3 and i have owned the first and third version in the past and i think it was and would be interesting to see the differences in designs. Pocky09 08:52, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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How come you want to want to rename the article to Sega Megadrive? There is such thing as a Sega Genesis (proof: I have one), so don't rename it. 24.121.73.22 14:31, 23 August 2006 (Pacific Time)
Well it does seem that renaming it to Sega Megadrive will make people think that there is no Sega Genesis. The first years I had mine I never even knew about the Megadrive, but you are not renaming it (nobody is). 24.121.73.22 15:22, 23 August 2006 (Pacific Time)
To clearify some stuff; Sega Genesis was the name used for Sega Mega Drive in USA. Bio Hazard was the Japanese name of Resident Evil, the name Resident Evil is used everywhere else. The same goes for Famicom; as Famicom is the japanese name, and NES is the world name. Everyone in the world (except for Japan, maybe some other asian countries) use the word NES. So even bringing that up as a reason to keep the name as either Sega Genesis or Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis, is redundant and silly, as the argument isn't even remotly close to being sound reason. This Wikipedia, which you all edit, is not the American Wikipedia, it's the English version of Wikipedia, which I might add, includes quite a few countries, not only america. So there is absolutly no rule that says something must be american. The original name, and the name intended for this console was/is Sega Mega Drive, period. Havok (T/ C/ c) 07:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, Most people tha use it are in the USA, right? So it should be the Sega Genesis, Sega Megadrive/Genesis, or just seperate articles. 24.121.73.22 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Right, lets have a quick brainstorm about stuff that needs adding to this article to get to FA status before the SNES. Your favourite console deserves it!. Just add anythhing you think needs adding on to the end.
I think we need to add info about the advertising of the console because, at least hear in the UK, it was the first console to go beyond adverts that were aimed at gamers with "Pirate TV" and "The cyber-razor cut". What were the US campaign(s) like? - X201 22:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
The article about the variations needs a clear rework since the comparisms of the different models are mixed up, for example the PAL MD2 is compared with the PAL MD1 and the JAP MD2 without a clear structure. I've made some suggestions at the talk page but haven't received any input yet. Would be nice if some people would have a look and provide some inputs. -- 32X 00:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
There are like ten references to how much more popular the SNES was. This doesn't need to be mentioned all over the place. in fact the article as a whole seems to go out of its way to portray the system (and Sega) as being weak and vulnerable by comparison. I'm going to try and work on reducing this. Chris Cunningham 11:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
The mega drive was actually more succesful then the snes back during the 16 bit era- the snes only appears to have done better as it was supported a lot longer-- Josquius 21:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
This is a question about a recent edit: Was'n the Genesis only released in North America under that brand name? US, Canada, maybe Mexico? Brazil had the Mega Drive, I don't know about the Spanish/English speaking countries. -- 32X 23:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
"The Mega Drive was released in Japan in 29 October 1988 for ¥21,000, almost exactly a year after the first console popularly classed as a 16-bit machine - the NEC PC Engine."
The PC-Engine is an 8-bit machine, as stated in the Wikipedia article linked from this one. Someone might rewrite that sentence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guest Account ( talk • contribs) .
I actually think technical spec best left as it is as the technical terms were best described using lists.
203.81.161.151 13:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)HHA
I did some research and decided to make some corrections to the market share numbers put up there earlier that claimed Sega's market share had fell to 35% in 1994. That is in fact wrong, Nintendo was at 35%, and they recovered to 54% in months of July, August, and September.
I cited the source below, which goes on to mention that Sega had still carried that year with "with a 55% lead in 16-bit sales in the first nine months of 1994 compared with 52% at the same time a year ago"
Nintendo Retakes 16-Bit Sales Crown --- The Christmas Battle Opens As Ex-Champion Sega Shows New `Knuckles' By Jim Carlton. Wall Street Journal. (Eastern edition). New York, N.Y.: Oct 28, 1994. pg. B.5
The Sega page lists that Sega has 65% market share and yet the SNES page lists that the market shares were approximately equal and cites a source. -- Elangsto 03:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
I think this article would benefit from an image of a Mega Drive II. Unfortunately, I no longer have one, so someone else should take a photo. -- Mouse Nightshirt 00:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Done - X201 10:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
How can Sonic the Hedgehog be listed as the top selling game if you look at this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_computer_and_video_games#Sega_Mega_Drive.2FSega_Genesis Zebbe 17:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
"The Mega Drive continued to hold on to a healthy fan base composed significantly of RPG and sports games fans."
i personaly dont think that this statement is accurate. while i am aware that the megadrive had alot of sports games on i seem to remember very few "role play games" of cource there is phantasy star howeever i can list very few others. to my knowledge the snes was more noted for its RPG while the megadrive seemedattractive to the development of platform games?? perhaps we should consider changing the paragraph or finding some citation to support the statement-- Dr noire 19:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree! -- Tirian 23:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)'
It had a handful of decent RPGs, namely the Phantasy Star series and the Shining Force strategy RPG series (which was recently re-released on Virtual Console), as well as the beloved Lunar 1 & 2 games on the Sega CD, and Snatcher on CD, and 3x3 Eyes in Japan on the Mega CD. There were some other great RPG-ish games like Landstalker and Light Crusader. But it was never considered as great of an Rpg system as the SNES as they had Enix and Square. Also the version of Ys 3 on the Genesis is the best (in my opinion). Some say AD&D: Warriors of the Sun is good, as well as Shadowrun, but I haven't played those.
Epicenter is a person who has barely any concepts on how electronics work (for example see http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2016&page=6), plus his site is mostly made up from articles stolen from elsewhere (such as the Ecco and sonic crackers one), so I removed the link for his genesis oc guide before someone ruins his console because of this kids unverified techno-blabber copypasta guides. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.0.148.54 ( talk) 18:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC). Also his site had unauthorized roms for download anyway.
I'm curious as to why the system is referred to as the "Mega Drive" for "consistency". It is true that the system went by this name in Japan, but this Wikipedia article is in the English Wikipedia and in English vernacular, it is referred to as the "Sega Genesis". I'm asking because I want to know if this was done because it is "cool". I think the more reasonable thing to do would be to target the article to what 98% of the English speaking world would recognize the console as. Drumpler 17:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
it seems unlikely that 98% of people who speak english are american —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
62.136.138.161 (
talk)
17:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
it is estimated to be 70%, which is still a significantly large number. 155.138.250.6 07:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I would venture a guess and say that in all the NTSC countries (Canada, the USA, and Mexico), the system sold more than in all the official English speaking PAL countries (the UK, Australia, and South Africa, mainly). Since this is on the English speaking portion of the website, and the NTSC regions that speak English outnumber the population of the English speaking PAL regions (like was mentioned above, 70% of English speakers are American), I think it would be most fair to change the name to Genesis on en.wikipedia.org, and leave it Mega Drive on non-English speaking portions of the site.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language#Geographical_distribution
freehunter 07:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to point out that the Console Passion link is (a) a commercial site and (b) not, as it claims, a complete list of all PAL Megadrive games (it is missing all of the Australian exclusives for a start ..). For a much more comprehensive list I would recommend either Genesis Collective, Digital Press or guardiana.net
Guardiana is probably the best for reference purposes, as it includes many cover scans, screenshots etc.
-- Tirian 23:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Someone please write the Europe section, the grammar is terrible. ... in America! 14:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be something about the 6 button pad in the article? It was released a long while after the original Megadrive/ Genesis wasn't it? Doom jester 12:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a curiosity question. Anyone else lamenting the fact that "Mega Drive" won out over "Genesis" as the name of the article? - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.215.97 ( talk • contribs) 08:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I am totally bummed out. 155.138.3.20 00:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, since the Genesis sold so well in America (better than anywhere else? ) it ought to be called this for its English article. Sega was originated by the american David Rosen, too, and it always had an American attitude (think of games like Michael Jackson's Moonwalker and Streets of Rage, as well as Joe Montana's Football). Also Sonic 2 was made here with the help of the Japanese designers.
There are currently two categories, one has to go.
I don't care which one will remain, but one has to go. With enough suggestions we could start an CfD that doesn't result in "no consensus". -- 32X 21:57, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I've moved the contents into Category:Sega Mega Drive. Category names should always match the naming of related articles and/or child/parent categories where possible. Garrett Talk 22:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I think that some one should post the different hardware revisions of the genesis because i know there are 3 and i have owned the first and third version in the past and i think it was and would be interesting to see the differences in designs. Pocky09 08:52, 28 July 2007 (UTC)