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Shuswap currently redirects here, but there should be a disambig page because of the common nature of this name in BC: Shuswap Lake, Shuswap River, Shuswap Country (pointedly in the local argot, "the Shuswap), the Shuswap Nation (not the same thing as Secwepemc, since there are non-Shuswap Nation bands who are Secwepemc, and the Shuswap Nation article needs creating anyway. I think there's also a couple of provincial, maybe federal, electoral districts that have/had Shuswap in their names. Skookum1 03:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This and institutions like it should all get articles; the St'at'imc have their own (a proposal currently), the Siska Band have theirs and more, including Weetama at Whistler and so on; all in Category:Visitor attractions in British Columbia as well as various FN and museum categories.. Also re the above I'll redlink Shuswap (disambiguation) or make the Shuswap redirect the disambig page, one of the two...most English users of Shuswap, at least in BC, will not be using it so much for the people as for the region, lake or river...I also have to get around to stubbing up Shuswap Country I guess.. Skookum1 ( talk) 05:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
It occurred to me that a certain page in each category, I guess the main article, shoulld have a todo list for that topic category, like a mini-WikiProject on each one; this way, maybe, when someone with the interest and/or from one of those areas or nations comes by, there's a directory of existing/avialable titles/topics. Such is the case with the Secwepemc Museum and Weetama and but also bios, community articles, issue articles in need of doing, project/organization articles e.g. the language and education authorities, which are distinct frrom teh tribal councils, and so on....so Talk:Secwepemc#ToDo_List, Talk:Shishalh#ToDo_List, Talk:Nlaka'pamux#ToDo_List etc..... Skookum1 ( talk) 05:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. Nathan Johnson ( talk) 19:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Shuswap people →
Secwepemc – This move was made in error, as "Shuswap people" is NOT the COMMONNAME usage and CANENGL applies, not ENGLISH in its global context. "Secwepemc" is now the standard in Canadian English, and is regularly used by major media and local media as well as academia and by the peoples/governments/organizations themselves, as can be seen in the cites. A google search for "Secwepemc" yields
83,900 results while for "Shuswap people" yields
4,780 results. Indigenous endonyms are now the norm in Canadian English and the expected standard.
Skookum1 (
talk)
13:16, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Shuswap /ˈʃuːswɒp/
▶ noun (pl., same or Shus*waps)
1. a member of an Aboriginal people living in the Thompson River area of BC.
2. the Salishan language of this people.
Origin: corruption of Shuswap Secwepemc, self-designation.
Usage: Also called Secwepemc.
From that point on she lists park names that exist either in both languages (whichever language it is), legally and formally, and some that have only native names; it's a set of HTML boxes, most reflected already in Category:Provincial parks of British Columbias many titles. If anyone needs "proof" of this email or thinks I fictionalized it, "email this user" and I will gladly forward it. Skookum1 ( talk) 06:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Secwépemc/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Major Interior Salish group (Shuswap); this is a people-stub and will also need
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I'm watching an Art Manuel video on Youtube, and he didn't use either of the listed pronunciations. To my white ears, he said "SOOK-woop-mut" (or replace the second "oo" with schwa). The primary stress was on the first syllable, not the second. I understand there may be differences among Secwepemc themselves, but the pronunciation of a former chief should at least be *listed* here. Moreover, I'm now questioning the veracity of those which are listed, as they don't match the speech of an actual Sepwepemc person. 70.29.99.106 ( talk) 19:23, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Main Thompson (Snekwaˀetkwemx), who became extinct during the late 19th cent
I don't think peoples become extinct. "Died out" would be a possible expression, unless they were actively wiped out, in which case, we should frankly use "were wiped out". What do you think? My opinion is that the human race as a whole could become extinct, but portions of it cannot be, as we are all one species and I believe only species can be extinct. Ikan Kekek ( talk) 01:50, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 08:53, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Shuswap currently redirects here, but there should be a disambig page because of the common nature of this name in BC: Shuswap Lake, Shuswap River, Shuswap Country (pointedly in the local argot, "the Shuswap), the Shuswap Nation (not the same thing as Secwepemc, since there are non-Shuswap Nation bands who are Secwepemc, and the Shuswap Nation article needs creating anyway. I think there's also a couple of provincial, maybe federal, electoral districts that have/had Shuswap in their names. Skookum1 03:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This and institutions like it should all get articles; the St'at'imc have their own (a proposal currently), the Siska Band have theirs and more, including Weetama at Whistler and so on; all in Category:Visitor attractions in British Columbia as well as various FN and museum categories.. Also re the above I'll redlink Shuswap (disambiguation) or make the Shuswap redirect the disambig page, one of the two...most English users of Shuswap, at least in BC, will not be using it so much for the people as for the region, lake or river...I also have to get around to stubbing up Shuswap Country I guess.. Skookum1 ( talk) 05:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
It occurred to me that a certain page in each category, I guess the main article, shoulld have a todo list for that topic category, like a mini-WikiProject on each one; this way, maybe, when someone with the interest and/or from one of those areas or nations comes by, there's a directory of existing/avialable titles/topics. Such is the case with the Secwepemc Museum and Weetama and but also bios, community articles, issue articles in need of doing, project/organization articles e.g. the language and education authorities, which are distinct frrom teh tribal councils, and so on....so Talk:Secwepemc#ToDo_List, Talk:Shishalh#ToDo_List, Talk:Nlaka'pamux#ToDo_List etc..... Skookum1 ( talk) 05:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. Nathan Johnson ( talk) 19:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Shuswap people →
Secwepemc – This move was made in error, as "Shuswap people" is NOT the COMMONNAME usage and CANENGL applies, not ENGLISH in its global context. "Secwepemc" is now the standard in Canadian English, and is regularly used by major media and local media as well as academia and by the peoples/governments/organizations themselves, as can be seen in the cites. A google search for "Secwepemc" yields
83,900 results while for "Shuswap people" yields
4,780 results. Indigenous endonyms are now the norm in Canadian English and the expected standard.
Skookum1 (
talk)
13:16, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Shuswap /ˈʃuːswɒp/
▶ noun (pl., same or Shus*waps)
1. a member of an Aboriginal people living in the Thompson River area of BC.
2. the Salishan language of this people.
Origin: corruption of Shuswap Secwepemc, self-designation.
Usage: Also called Secwepemc.
From that point on she lists park names that exist either in both languages (whichever language it is), legally and formally, and some that have only native names; it's a set of HTML boxes, most reflected already in Category:Provincial parks of British Columbias many titles. If anyone needs "proof" of this email or thinks I fictionalized it, "email this user" and I will gladly forward it. Skookum1 ( talk) 06:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Secwépemc/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Major Interior Salish group (Shuswap); this is a people-stub and will also need
|
Substituted at 05:16, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm watching an Art Manuel video on Youtube, and he didn't use either of the listed pronunciations. To my white ears, he said "SOOK-woop-mut" (or replace the second "oo" with schwa). The primary stress was on the first syllable, not the second. I understand there may be differences among Secwepemc themselves, but the pronunciation of a former chief should at least be *listed* here. Moreover, I'm now questioning the veracity of those which are listed, as they don't match the speech of an actual Sepwepemc person. 70.29.99.106 ( talk) 19:23, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Main Thompson (Snekwaˀetkwemx), who became extinct during the late 19th cent
I don't think peoples become extinct. "Died out" would be a possible expression, unless they were actively wiped out, in which case, we should frankly use "were wiped out". What do you think? My opinion is that the human race as a whole could become extinct, but portions of it cannot be, as we are all one species and I believe only species can be extinct. Ikan Kekek ( talk) 01:50, 10 June 2019 (UTC)