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We have only one photo of the Seattle Great Wheel, and it's mediocre quality, at best. File:Seattle Great Wheel.JPG. It's one side view that has a moderate level of detail, and only roughly conveys the locale where the wheel sits. At a minimum, we'd need one decent illustration of the immediate surroundings under the wheel, and at least one photo of the view from it. The purpose of a Ferris wheel is as a vantage point, after all. And since on one side you see downtown Seattle, and on the other you see Puget Sound, probably two views from the wheel is a minimum. More practically, it will probably take around a half dozen to a dozen quality photos before we can say this subject is adequately illustrated. As noted in the comment, we ought to have nighttime views of the lights, and the interior of the structure, and more.
It is much easier to achieve that if this article is not deleted from Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Seattle, Washington, so that when Wikipedians are out collecting photos they won't skip past the Great Wheel. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 04:45, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus to do so. ( non-admin closure) Calidum 01:52, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Seattle Great Wheel →
The Seattle Great Wheel – the trademarked name of this attraction is The Seattle Great Wheel as opposed to only Seattle Great Wheel. Ownership is requesting the proper trademarked name be used. Please refer to official website logo showing The Seattle Great Wheel in the logo.
Andriagerry (
talk)
18:27, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
There are rare exceptions, but we generally aim to reflect whatever form is prevalaent among reliable sources, and don't feel obligated to say REALTOR® instead of Realtor or Toys Я Us over Toys "R" Us. Wikipedia style would generally prefer Playstation over PlayStation, avoiding camel case, but PlayStation is more widely used so we follow suit. See MOS:TMRULES.
From what I can tell, few if any published sources refer to it as The Seattle Great Wheel. You often see the Seattle Great Wheel, with the not capitalized, indicating the source doesn't recognize it as formally part of the name. Other formulations such as Seattle's Great Wheel or, most often, Seattle Great Wheel with no article at all.
We don't title article with a subject's official formal name unless that is also the common name -- see WP:COMMONNAME -- hence, Bill Clinton, not William Jefferson Clinton or William Jefferson Blythe III.
It's probably harmless to move it to The Seattle Great Wheel and I don't really mind, but from what I can tell Seattle Great Wheel more closely adheres to our guidelines. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 20:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Heck, even Yelp got our name right! [2] Full disclosure, I am an employee of Great Western Attractions, which i have added to my user page (this is all new so bear with me-i'm learning). Formerly a research scientist for UW during which I developed by love of accuracy. This is why I am trying to correct my workplace name. I was incorrectly identified as part of the ownership group, based on Everett Herald article, which correctly states I am the ticketing manager. Believe me, wish I was part owner!! no such luck. Never does the article state I am in the ownership group. I will receive no compensation for this and was trying to provide the most accurate and correct information. If the name is changed to the correct name, awesome. If not, oh well. Based on the fact Wikipedia follows its own article naming conventions and official trademarks are not given priority in those guidelines, this makes me think the WP is not a good third party source for correct and factual information, a somewhat disappointing result of this endeavor. A small thing, such as using a proper name, is something I though WP would like to do. By stepping into the WP arena I was hoping to correct other mis-information including owner, and other incorrect statistics on the page, plus provide better pictures, however it is proving to be difficult and potentially not worth the effort. Using “Seattle Great Wheel” (no “the”) is actually less accurate and less grammatically correct than “The Seattle Great Wheel” ( Andrianina7 ( talk) 22:40, 25 July 2019 (UTC))
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
We have only one photo of the Seattle Great Wheel, and it's mediocre quality, at best. File:Seattle Great Wheel.JPG. It's one side view that has a moderate level of detail, and only roughly conveys the locale where the wheel sits. At a minimum, we'd need one decent illustration of the immediate surroundings under the wheel, and at least one photo of the view from it. The purpose of a Ferris wheel is as a vantage point, after all. And since on one side you see downtown Seattle, and on the other you see Puget Sound, probably two views from the wheel is a minimum. More practically, it will probably take around a half dozen to a dozen quality photos before we can say this subject is adequately illustrated. As noted in the comment, we ought to have nighttime views of the lights, and the interior of the structure, and more.
It is much easier to achieve that if this article is not deleted from Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Seattle, Washington, so that when Wikipedians are out collecting photos they won't skip past the Great Wheel. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 04:45, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus to do so. ( non-admin closure) Calidum 01:52, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Seattle Great Wheel →
The Seattle Great Wheel – the trademarked name of this attraction is The Seattle Great Wheel as opposed to only Seattle Great Wheel. Ownership is requesting the proper trademarked name be used. Please refer to official website logo showing The Seattle Great Wheel in the logo.
Andriagerry (
talk)
18:27, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
There are rare exceptions, but we generally aim to reflect whatever form is prevalaent among reliable sources, and don't feel obligated to say REALTOR® instead of Realtor or Toys Я Us over Toys "R" Us. Wikipedia style would generally prefer Playstation over PlayStation, avoiding camel case, but PlayStation is more widely used so we follow suit. See MOS:TMRULES.
From what I can tell, few if any published sources refer to it as The Seattle Great Wheel. You often see the Seattle Great Wheel, with the not capitalized, indicating the source doesn't recognize it as formally part of the name. Other formulations such as Seattle's Great Wheel or, most often, Seattle Great Wheel with no article at all.
We don't title article with a subject's official formal name unless that is also the common name -- see WP:COMMONNAME -- hence, Bill Clinton, not William Jefferson Clinton or William Jefferson Blythe III.
It's probably harmless to move it to The Seattle Great Wheel and I don't really mind, but from what I can tell Seattle Great Wheel more closely adheres to our guidelines. -- Dennis Bratland ( talk) 20:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Heck, even Yelp got our name right! [2] Full disclosure, I am an employee of Great Western Attractions, which i have added to my user page (this is all new so bear with me-i'm learning). Formerly a research scientist for UW during which I developed by love of accuracy. This is why I am trying to correct my workplace name. I was incorrectly identified as part of the ownership group, based on Everett Herald article, which correctly states I am the ticketing manager. Believe me, wish I was part owner!! no such luck. Never does the article state I am in the ownership group. I will receive no compensation for this and was trying to provide the most accurate and correct information. If the name is changed to the correct name, awesome. If not, oh well. Based on the fact Wikipedia follows its own article naming conventions and official trademarks are not given priority in those guidelines, this makes me think the WP is not a good third party source for correct and factual information, a somewhat disappointing result of this endeavor. A small thing, such as using a proper name, is something I though WP would like to do. By stepping into the WP arena I was hoping to correct other mis-information including owner, and other incorrect statistics on the page, plus provide better pictures, however it is proving to be difficult and potentially not worth the effort. Using “Seattle Great Wheel” (no “the”) is actually less accurate and less grammatically correct than “The Seattle Great Wheel” ( Andrianina7 ( talk) 22:40, 25 July 2019 (UTC))