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My rewrite/removal (mostly removal) of the anon's additions are complete. Feel free to review my edits and make your own as deemed fit. -- Bobblehead 01:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Is one of Seattle's nicknames really "The Rainy City"? I'm following the edits of an editor who has been doing some stealthy vandalism, but who also does occasional good edits. Blank Verse 04:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Soapy, you tell a local Puget Sound resident that you are going to "Rainy City," they will assume you are talking about Forks. It is not a nickname for Seattle, and never has been, except by a few people trying to slander the place. If it were a nickname, it would have come up in the history link files, which are very thorough. It is a stupid nickname for one, we have a long dry season, get less rain than most cities east of the Mississippi, and less rain than the other major coastal PNW cities. Calling Seattle "Rainy City" is slander and a myth; both of which should not be perpetuated here on wikipedia.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.84.145 ( talk • contribs)
Other Washington city nicknames and slogans
Seattle: Official nickname is the “Emerald City,” the result of a contest by a civic-minded association in the early 1980s to designate a pleasant nickname for the city. The name alludes to the lush evergreen trees in the surrounding area. Informally known as the Rainy City (also Rain City), the Gateway to Alaska, Queen City, and Jet City. “Metronatural,” the new tourism slogan, is the result of a 16-month, $200,000 effort by Seattle’s Convention and Visitors Bureau.
Spokane: Its newest motto is “Near Nature, Near Perfect.” Another oft-repeated description of the city is “the second largest city between Minneapolis and Tokyo.”
Yakima: In the 1950s the city marketed itself as “The Fruit Bowl of the Nation.” A highway sign that reads “Welcome to Yakima: The Palm Springs of Washington” is not an official city slogan and the sign is privately owned. The nickname is a reference to Yakima’s climate, one of the hottest regions of Washington state.
Walla Walla: Its slogan is “The City Was So Nice They Named It Twice.”
Sources: Taglineguru.com, seattlepi.com and wsm.wsu.edu Soapy 20:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Soapy, that same exact phrase was the misinformation put forward here on wiki. They came here, read that slanderous myth, and are now perpetuating it. Spokane btw is the Lilac City.—Preceding
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So we can call ourselves Sun City too because of business names? Come on folks, it isn't a nickname, never has been. From the context of a Californian transplant, we are a rainy city, but in the context of other Western Washington cities, we are not. So yes soapy it is false which in turn makes it slanderous. Let me guess, you are from California?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.84.145 ( talk • contribs)
Living in Seattle (though not native), I have heard Seattle called the "Rainy City" more often then "Jet City" by a large margin and this include references by folks within Seattle and in other parts of the country. Agne 00:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I am 54y/o and my grandmother moved to Seattle in 1932. My daughters are 4th generation. I don't even know if this is the correct place to give you the definitive answer on "Rain City". I've never heard it used growing up, but I like it. It's memorable and has a cool, green connotation, which sounds amazing and ecofriendly. I say that "Rain City" is as good as any other nickname...though it works better in print. I have also heard the nicknames sea-town or c-town. JetGypsy JetGypsy 02:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I forgot to add that Seattle is located in "The Evergray State". JetGypsy JetGypsy 03:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
The homeless population #s make no sense. In one sentence it says "estimated at 1.5%" (that would be around 50-75,000); later in the paragraph it says population of 8,000. If there's a dispute (there usually is on these matters), then we should simply say, "estimated between X and Y"; and "population of anywhere from X to Y", and cite to both. Can anyone help on this? -- lquilter 05:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey stupid, do your math! 1.5% of 580,000 is not 50-75 thousand! It actually comes out to 8,700, which if adjusted to 2000 census data comes out a bit closer to 8,000.
I think someone should drastically scale down the performing arts section. There is no need to list so many band names, venues, etc. Most of what is there should go to the Arts in Seattle main page. Soapy 03:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Sean mc sean ( talk · contribs) did a major edit of the whole article on 2007-01-29, but marked it minor and left no edit summary. [3] It was well-intentioned and constructive, in my opinion, but I thought it should be brought to the attention of the other editors of this article. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm, didn't know Seattle's climate was "Mediterranean". And I think some of the average temperatures listed are too warm... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dude6789 ( talk • contribs) 16:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
The last few days have been notable for a flurry of edits and reverts to the climate section. Can someone explain what was wrong with the 00:57, 2007 February 10 version, please? It uses the words "mild temperate marine climate", rather than "somewhat warm, mild Mediterranean climate" to describe the climate of Seattle. If other similar inaccuracies have been introduced, it might be best to revert to that earlier version. Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Why is this page protected? Is Seattle a particularly controversial city?-- Margareta 21:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Over two years old and never completed--with out-of-date references like Seahawks Stadium. Posted requests for updating here and on the main Map Help Wanted page a while back, but never got any takers. I don't have the time to do it, much as I would love to.... any ideas? -- Lukobe 18:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I deleted this from the demographics section's sidebar on homelessness:
Local non-profit organizations dealing with poverty and related issues include the Fremont Public Association, the Asian Counseling and Referral Service, Peace for the Streets by Kids from the Streets, and the Seattle Indian Center.
Because, while this is all true, it is a very unbalaced portrait of social services in Seattle. PSKS does very little in the city compared to other social service agencies not mentioned. Because a more complete list would be prohibitive, I suggest it be ommited altogether.
66.194.72.10 23:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Why not simply remove PSKS? The others are well respected. (Though the FPA has changed its name to something rather meaningless, I believe.) --
Lukobe
06:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Please tell me if I should be putting this somewhere else, but the talk page seems like the right place. Billywatson is quite determined to have this page link to about.com's Seattle guide. He is also the editor of said guide.
After I initially removed his link spam from the main body of the article and commented on his talk page, I received an angry email from the same user, and found that one of my edits to Olympic_Sculpture_Park had been reverted by him. I have been trying to resolve this dispute through email, in the course of which I added a link to his Seattle guide in the one place where I thought it appropriate. Bobblehead removed that link and subsequently gave an explanation on my talk page (with which I was satisfied) of why it doesn't belong, but I notice Billywatson has been back since to put the link back in.
I'm not interested in getting into an edit war with anyone, so I think I'll steer clear of changing anything myself, but if the general consensus agrees with Bobblehead's position then perhaps it should be made clear and acted on. Eldang 04:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
What was wrong with adding overall averages to the climate section? Many other articles have it, and I don't see why it "brings down" the article. 192.147.169.5 20:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
An anonymous editor, 192.147.169.5 ( talk • contribs), has substituted a table from The Weather Channel for the one from the Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC) with the edit summary, " I believe these averages are more commonly shown." [7] [8] I was not able to verify that The Weather Channel is a commonly used source of climate data on Wikipedia. Weatherbase seems to be used most often on other city articles, when a source is given, e.g., Los Angeles, California, San Francisco, California, Houston, Texas and Boston, Massachusetts. [9] Of about ten large US cities that I looked at, only Dallas, Texas cites The Weather Channel.
The Western Regional Climate Center "is administered by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration". [10] It is hosted by the "Desert Research Institute (DRI) [which] is the nonprofit research campus of the Nevada System of Higher Education (NSHE)" [11] As such, I would expect its staff to be mostly scientists and technical people. The other two source are for-profit corporations and accept advertising. The Weather Channel is a news organization that reports on weather related topics.
The provenance of The Weather Channel data is not given. The provenance of the WRCC data is stated as 7/23/1931 to 10/31/2006 and is for the Seattle Tacoma International Airport Weather Service Contract Meteorological Office. This information as well as the additional decimal digit of temperature makes the WRCC data more useful, in my opinion. Weatherbase states "Years on Record" but not the date of the most recent update. The latitude and longitude of the location where the data were taken is stated.
The policy WP:ATT states that "Wikipedia articles should rely on reliable, published secondary sources wherever possible." I think all three sources probably comply with this rather vague standard. Another issue is whether republishing either The Weather Channel or Weatherbase data violates WP:COPY. My reading of Fair use is that it may, and that the WRCC source which is directly attributable to the federal government is more likely to be compliant. Of the sources I've investigated, I think that the WRCC is the most reliable source. Walter Siegmund (talk) 20:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
The Columbia Center is the tallest building in Seattle and, with 83 stories, has a greater number of floors than any other building west of the Mississippi River.
The Columbia Center has 76 stories so I am going to correct this.
"In the 90's a genration of childeren were born into the cold world of Seattle, know as the children of the attle. These kids included jackie, jessica, austiin, ben, jen, kk, rian, gabi, cassie, leah, and bob." Who put this crap in? I typically don't edit, just look for errors and vandalism. Can someonetake care of this?
Actually, the BANK OF AMERICA CENTER has 75 stories as it lacks a thirteenth floor (as most modern skyscrapers in the U.S. do).
The article used both spellings before I changed it to Seattlite. Any linguists want to weigh in? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.208.85.43 ( talk) 07:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
I have been using the Seattle article for some general research purposes all week (since 4/12/07) As of 4/18/07, the introductory paragraph has been horribly vandalized, and I don't know how to remove or edit content from that section. I truly hope that someone who is more saavy on this website will do the service of removing this ridiculously immature content. Thank-you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.107.12 ( talk • contribs)
Google says Seattleite, though I've only heard it said before and not read it and Seattlite sounds more natural to how it sounds.
Dave Rebecca
19:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be quite full of it's self - it's like a giant ad for the city of Seattle! Wikipedia is not a free advertisement for cities, corporations or people; it's obvious that some very pompous Seattleites are responsible for the foundation of this article, and that some outside work from some intelligent and informed, though not biased, non-Seattle editors need to get their hands in this page's recovery. It may be a feature article recipient, but it's far from high-quality by any average reader's standards. Seattle as a whole is NOT a perfect place to live, as depicted in this article. I'm not saying that anyone should go about trashing the city in paragraphs, but some sort of balance is necessary. This is Wikipedia, not a travel agency. I'm recommending, from an outside opinion, some serious action be taken to clean up the real mess that this article is going into. 206.188.56.88 21:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
The city was originally called "New York Alki", which means "New York by and by", or "New York sooner or later". I'll make sure the article reflects that. -Uagehry456 talk 20:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Alright, never mind, it's just what I learned in America's classrooms. -Uagehry456 talk 06:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Just curious, how come a featured article not mention a single word about religion in the city? Especially being the seat of a catholic archbishop should be worth mentioning!
{{ Infobox Weather}} seems to be gaining widespread use. [14] I'm not sure that I understand the argument not to use it in this article. Walter Siegmund (talk) 19:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
What's going on in the articlehistory box at the top of the page? The information is wrong and doesn't make any sense.- Wafulz 15:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I think the sport section should also mention swimmer Helene Madison (1913-1970) of Seattle who won three gold medals at the 1932 Olympic Games. Willingandable 15:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Since nobody objected I inserted this. Willingandable 14:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was The move request that started this is was closed by Stemonitis on August 30. [15] There has been no new move request filed at WP:RM so this obviously controversial move request has no chance of resulting in a conclusion that officially ends in "move" or "no move". If anyone wants to open a move request at WP:RM then the !vote can restart at that time. -- Bobblehead (rants) 16:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Noah was a baptismal name, given at Sealth's baptism late in life. If you shouted "Noah!" he would not have turned his head. If you want to document his baptismal name, put that in Sealth page but it has nothing to do with this city. rewinn 04:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
As separate from Downtown, Seattle, Washington? -- Lukobe 22:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | → | Archive 8 |
My rewrite/removal (mostly removal) of the anon's additions are complete. Feel free to review my edits and make your own as deemed fit. -- Bobblehead 01:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Is one of Seattle's nicknames really "The Rainy City"? I'm following the edits of an editor who has been doing some stealthy vandalism, but who also does occasional good edits. Blank Verse 04:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Soapy, you tell a local Puget Sound resident that you are going to "Rainy City," they will assume you are talking about Forks. It is not a nickname for Seattle, and never has been, except by a few people trying to slander the place. If it were a nickname, it would have come up in the history link files, which are very thorough. It is a stupid nickname for one, we have a long dry season, get less rain than most cities east of the Mississippi, and less rain than the other major coastal PNW cities. Calling Seattle "Rainy City" is slander and a myth; both of which should not be perpetuated here on wikipedia.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.84.145 ( talk • contribs)
Other Washington city nicknames and slogans
Seattle: Official nickname is the “Emerald City,” the result of a contest by a civic-minded association in the early 1980s to designate a pleasant nickname for the city. The name alludes to the lush evergreen trees in the surrounding area. Informally known as the Rainy City (also Rain City), the Gateway to Alaska, Queen City, and Jet City. “Metronatural,” the new tourism slogan, is the result of a 16-month, $200,000 effort by Seattle’s Convention and Visitors Bureau.
Spokane: Its newest motto is “Near Nature, Near Perfect.” Another oft-repeated description of the city is “the second largest city between Minneapolis and Tokyo.”
Yakima: In the 1950s the city marketed itself as “The Fruit Bowl of the Nation.” A highway sign that reads “Welcome to Yakima: The Palm Springs of Washington” is not an official city slogan and the sign is privately owned. The nickname is a reference to Yakima’s climate, one of the hottest regions of Washington state.
Walla Walla: Its slogan is “The City Was So Nice They Named It Twice.”
Sources: Taglineguru.com, seattlepi.com and wsm.wsu.edu Soapy 20:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Soapy, that same exact phrase was the misinformation put forward here on wiki. They came here, read that slanderous myth, and are now perpetuating it. Spokane btw is the Lilac City.—Preceding
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67.161.84.145 (
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contribs)
So we can call ourselves Sun City too because of business names? Come on folks, it isn't a nickname, never has been. From the context of a Californian transplant, we are a rainy city, but in the context of other Western Washington cities, we are not. So yes soapy it is false which in turn makes it slanderous. Let me guess, you are from California?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.84.145 ( talk • contribs)
Living in Seattle (though not native), I have heard Seattle called the "Rainy City" more often then "Jet City" by a large margin and this include references by folks within Seattle and in other parts of the country. Agne 00:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I am 54y/o and my grandmother moved to Seattle in 1932. My daughters are 4th generation. I don't even know if this is the correct place to give you the definitive answer on "Rain City". I've never heard it used growing up, but I like it. It's memorable and has a cool, green connotation, which sounds amazing and ecofriendly. I say that "Rain City" is as good as any other nickname...though it works better in print. I have also heard the nicknames sea-town or c-town. JetGypsy JetGypsy 02:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I forgot to add that Seattle is located in "The Evergray State". JetGypsy JetGypsy 03:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
The homeless population #s make no sense. In one sentence it says "estimated at 1.5%" (that would be around 50-75,000); later in the paragraph it says population of 8,000. If there's a dispute (there usually is on these matters), then we should simply say, "estimated between X and Y"; and "population of anywhere from X to Y", and cite to both. Can anyone help on this? -- lquilter 05:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey stupid, do your math! 1.5% of 580,000 is not 50-75 thousand! It actually comes out to 8,700, which if adjusted to 2000 census data comes out a bit closer to 8,000.
I think someone should drastically scale down the performing arts section. There is no need to list so many band names, venues, etc. Most of what is there should go to the Arts in Seattle main page. Soapy 03:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Sean mc sean ( talk · contribs) did a major edit of the whole article on 2007-01-29, but marked it minor and left no edit summary. [3] It was well-intentioned and constructive, in my opinion, but I thought it should be brought to the attention of the other editors of this article. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm, didn't know Seattle's climate was "Mediterranean". And I think some of the average temperatures listed are too warm... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dude6789 ( talk • contribs) 16:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
The last few days have been notable for a flurry of edits and reverts to the climate section. Can someone explain what was wrong with the 00:57, 2007 February 10 version, please? It uses the words "mild temperate marine climate", rather than "somewhat warm, mild Mediterranean climate" to describe the climate of Seattle. If other similar inaccuracies have been introduced, it might be best to revert to that earlier version. Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Why is this page protected? Is Seattle a particularly controversial city?-- Margareta 21:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Over two years old and never completed--with out-of-date references like Seahawks Stadium. Posted requests for updating here and on the main Map Help Wanted page a while back, but never got any takers. I don't have the time to do it, much as I would love to.... any ideas? -- Lukobe 18:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I deleted this from the demographics section's sidebar on homelessness:
Local non-profit organizations dealing with poverty and related issues include the Fremont Public Association, the Asian Counseling and Referral Service, Peace for the Streets by Kids from the Streets, and the Seattle Indian Center.
Because, while this is all true, it is a very unbalaced portrait of social services in Seattle. PSKS does very little in the city compared to other social service agencies not mentioned. Because a more complete list would be prohibitive, I suggest it be ommited altogether.
66.194.72.10 23:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Why not simply remove PSKS? The others are well respected. (Though the FPA has changed its name to something rather meaningless, I believe.) --
Lukobe
06:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Please tell me if I should be putting this somewhere else, but the talk page seems like the right place. Billywatson is quite determined to have this page link to about.com's Seattle guide. He is also the editor of said guide.
After I initially removed his link spam from the main body of the article and commented on his talk page, I received an angry email from the same user, and found that one of my edits to Olympic_Sculpture_Park had been reverted by him. I have been trying to resolve this dispute through email, in the course of which I added a link to his Seattle guide in the one place where I thought it appropriate. Bobblehead removed that link and subsequently gave an explanation on my talk page (with which I was satisfied) of why it doesn't belong, but I notice Billywatson has been back since to put the link back in.
I'm not interested in getting into an edit war with anyone, so I think I'll steer clear of changing anything myself, but if the general consensus agrees with Bobblehead's position then perhaps it should be made clear and acted on. Eldang 04:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
What was wrong with adding overall averages to the climate section? Many other articles have it, and I don't see why it "brings down" the article. 192.147.169.5 20:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
An anonymous editor, 192.147.169.5 ( talk • contribs), has substituted a table from The Weather Channel for the one from the Western Regional Climate Center (WRCC) with the edit summary, " I believe these averages are more commonly shown." [7] [8] I was not able to verify that The Weather Channel is a commonly used source of climate data on Wikipedia. Weatherbase seems to be used most often on other city articles, when a source is given, e.g., Los Angeles, California, San Francisco, California, Houston, Texas and Boston, Massachusetts. [9] Of about ten large US cities that I looked at, only Dallas, Texas cites The Weather Channel.
The Western Regional Climate Center "is administered by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration". [10] It is hosted by the "Desert Research Institute (DRI) [which] is the nonprofit research campus of the Nevada System of Higher Education (NSHE)" [11] As such, I would expect its staff to be mostly scientists and technical people. The other two source are for-profit corporations and accept advertising. The Weather Channel is a news organization that reports on weather related topics.
The provenance of The Weather Channel data is not given. The provenance of the WRCC data is stated as 7/23/1931 to 10/31/2006 and is for the Seattle Tacoma International Airport Weather Service Contract Meteorological Office. This information as well as the additional decimal digit of temperature makes the WRCC data more useful, in my opinion. Weatherbase states "Years on Record" but not the date of the most recent update. The latitude and longitude of the location where the data were taken is stated.
The policy WP:ATT states that "Wikipedia articles should rely on reliable, published secondary sources wherever possible." I think all three sources probably comply with this rather vague standard. Another issue is whether republishing either The Weather Channel or Weatherbase data violates WP:COPY. My reading of Fair use is that it may, and that the WRCC source which is directly attributable to the federal government is more likely to be compliant. Of the sources I've investigated, I think that the WRCC is the most reliable source. Walter Siegmund (talk) 20:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
The Columbia Center is the tallest building in Seattle and, with 83 stories, has a greater number of floors than any other building west of the Mississippi River.
The Columbia Center has 76 stories so I am going to correct this.
"In the 90's a genration of childeren were born into the cold world of Seattle, know as the children of the attle. These kids included jackie, jessica, austiin, ben, jen, kk, rian, gabi, cassie, leah, and bob." Who put this crap in? I typically don't edit, just look for errors and vandalism. Can someonetake care of this?
Actually, the BANK OF AMERICA CENTER has 75 stories as it lacks a thirteenth floor (as most modern skyscrapers in the U.S. do).
The article used both spellings before I changed it to Seattlite. Any linguists want to weigh in? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.208.85.43 ( talk) 07:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
I have been using the Seattle article for some general research purposes all week (since 4/12/07) As of 4/18/07, the introductory paragraph has been horribly vandalized, and I don't know how to remove or edit content from that section. I truly hope that someone who is more saavy on this website will do the service of removing this ridiculously immature content. Thank-you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.107.12 ( talk • contribs)
Google says Seattleite, though I've only heard it said before and not read it and Seattlite sounds more natural to how it sounds.
Dave Rebecca
19:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be quite full of it's self - it's like a giant ad for the city of Seattle! Wikipedia is not a free advertisement for cities, corporations or people; it's obvious that some very pompous Seattleites are responsible for the foundation of this article, and that some outside work from some intelligent and informed, though not biased, non-Seattle editors need to get their hands in this page's recovery. It may be a feature article recipient, but it's far from high-quality by any average reader's standards. Seattle as a whole is NOT a perfect place to live, as depicted in this article. I'm not saying that anyone should go about trashing the city in paragraphs, but some sort of balance is necessary. This is Wikipedia, not a travel agency. I'm recommending, from an outside opinion, some serious action be taken to clean up the real mess that this article is going into. 206.188.56.88 21:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
The city was originally called "New York Alki", which means "New York by and by", or "New York sooner or later". I'll make sure the article reflects that. -Uagehry456 talk 20:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Alright, never mind, it's just what I learned in America's classrooms. -Uagehry456 talk 06:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Just curious, how come a featured article not mention a single word about religion in the city? Especially being the seat of a catholic archbishop should be worth mentioning!
{{ Infobox Weather}} seems to be gaining widespread use. [14] I'm not sure that I understand the argument not to use it in this article. Walter Siegmund (talk) 19:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
What's going on in the articlehistory box at the top of the page? The information is wrong and doesn't make any sense.- Wafulz 15:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I think the sport section should also mention swimmer Helene Madison (1913-1970) of Seattle who won three gold medals at the 1932 Olympic Games. Willingandable 15:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Since nobody objected I inserted this. Willingandable 14:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was The move request that started this is was closed by Stemonitis on August 30. [15] There has been no new move request filed at WP:RM so this obviously controversial move request has no chance of resulting in a conclusion that officially ends in "move" or "no move". If anyone wants to open a move request at WP:RM then the !vote can restart at that time. -- Bobblehead (rants) 16:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Noah was a baptismal name, given at Sealth's baptism late in life. If you shouted "Noah!" he would not have turned his head. If you want to document his baptismal name, put that in Sealth page but it has nothing to do with this city. rewinn 04:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
As separate from Downtown, Seattle, Washington? -- Lukobe 22:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)