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Seam zone "Kav Hatefer" refers to areas within israel green line as well as the area next to the barrier route. Zeq ( talk) 14:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
The source used in the article say: "The court ruled that Israel would have to balance its security needs with the needs of Palestinians. The court decision said the barrier caused undue hardship for 35,000 Palestinians who would be cut off from their farmland, schools and jobs. " But the article using much higher numbers. Can you correct and use sources for each number ? Tnx. Zeq ( talk) 14:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Tiamut talk 15:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)An Israeli human rights group says there are now about 57,000 Palestinians isolated in enclaves surrounded by the security barrier. The United Nations says that if the series of walls, fences, barbed wire and ditches is completed along its planned route, about a third of West Bank Palestinians will be affected. About 274,000 will be trapped in enclaves and about 400,000 blocked from their fields, jobs, schools and hospitals.
Tiamut, you have wrote most of this article. I wonder if you have tried doing what the WP:NPOV policy require us to do - which is "to write for the enemy". Where is the importance of the seanmzone to as a buffer for Israel's security needs ? where is the rational to establish it, the info about suicide bomebrs that tried to cross it. There are two sides to each coin in the Middle east conflict and one side is toatly missing from this article. Tnx. Zeq ( talk) 15:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
The other Israeli source is HaMoked, who challenged the legality of the government's order in a petition to the Supreme Court., and the third is the Israeli human rights group Btselem. In fact, whereas I used three Israeli sources, I only used two Palestinian ones, and the rest are Western news agencies or international human rights groups. If you feel that the Israeli government perspective requires more in the way of documentation, please provide sources, think about adding them yourself, or if you require assistance, you can post them here and I will help you. Thanks. Tiamut talk 15:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)The day prior to the issuing of the military order, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a Cabinet Communique which explained that the establishment of the seam zone was of the "utmost importance," citing also the "strong security need for building a security barrier in the 'seam zone' and in the 'Jerusalem envelope'."[5]
Tiamut, since you do read Hebrew here is an example of what NPOV should like like: First the facts what it is, next what are the reason for establishing it and next a discussion describing the different views of it: [1] Zeq ( talk) 15:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
and look up this source as well [7] see the date Sep 14, 2004. -- Zeq ( talk) 17:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)"A Palestinian suicide bomber riding a bicycle blew himself up near an IDF checkpoint in the West Bank, wounding at least three Israeli soldiers, one of them seriously, and two Palestinians. Lt.-Col. Shimon, an Israeli commander at the scene, said the incident had occurred as Palestinian farmers crossed through a gate in Israel's separation Wall near Qalqilya. "He looked like an innocent civilian. ... It appears he even spoke to the soldiers," said the officer, who is barred from giving his last name under IDF rules. "Then he turned the bike around and blew up." An anonymous caller to AFPoffices in Nablus said the attack had been carried out by Yussef Taleb Ighbariyeh, 26, from Qalqilya" [6]
source showing that the bomber failed to enter into Israel:
" The Palestinian suicide bomber on a bicycle blew up at a West Bank crossing, wounding three Israeli soldiers, one seriously (his injuries are life-threatening, according to doctors). The bomber blew himself up at the checkpoint after he failed to get into Israel proper. " [8]
-- Zeq ( talk) 17:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
[9], [10] -- Zeq ( talk) 15:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Tiamut I was wondering whether or not Wadi Fukin is included in the Bethlehem Seam Zone area? Its sandwiched between an Israeli town in Gush Etzion and the border with Israel. You could look at any detailed West Bank map for assurance. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 17:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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Seam zone "Kav Hatefer" refers to areas within israel green line as well as the area next to the barrier route. Zeq ( talk) 14:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
The source used in the article say: "The court ruled that Israel would have to balance its security needs with the needs of Palestinians. The court decision said the barrier caused undue hardship for 35,000 Palestinians who would be cut off from their farmland, schools and jobs. " But the article using much higher numbers. Can you correct and use sources for each number ? Tnx. Zeq ( talk) 14:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Tiamut talk 15:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)An Israeli human rights group says there are now about 57,000 Palestinians isolated in enclaves surrounded by the security barrier. The United Nations says that if the series of walls, fences, barbed wire and ditches is completed along its planned route, about a third of West Bank Palestinians will be affected. About 274,000 will be trapped in enclaves and about 400,000 blocked from their fields, jobs, schools and hospitals.
Tiamut, you have wrote most of this article. I wonder if you have tried doing what the WP:NPOV policy require us to do - which is "to write for the enemy". Where is the importance of the seanmzone to as a buffer for Israel's security needs ? where is the rational to establish it, the info about suicide bomebrs that tried to cross it. There are two sides to each coin in the Middle east conflict and one side is toatly missing from this article. Tnx. Zeq ( talk) 15:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
The other Israeli source is HaMoked, who challenged the legality of the government's order in a petition to the Supreme Court., and the third is the Israeli human rights group Btselem. In fact, whereas I used three Israeli sources, I only used two Palestinian ones, and the rest are Western news agencies or international human rights groups. If you feel that the Israeli government perspective requires more in the way of documentation, please provide sources, think about adding them yourself, or if you require assistance, you can post them here and I will help you. Thanks. Tiamut talk 15:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)The day prior to the issuing of the military order, the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a Cabinet Communique which explained that the establishment of the seam zone was of the "utmost importance," citing also the "strong security need for building a security barrier in the 'seam zone' and in the 'Jerusalem envelope'."[5]
Tiamut, since you do read Hebrew here is an example of what NPOV should like like: First the facts what it is, next what are the reason for establishing it and next a discussion describing the different views of it: [1] Zeq ( talk) 15:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
and look up this source as well [7] see the date Sep 14, 2004. -- Zeq ( talk) 17:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)"A Palestinian suicide bomber riding a bicycle blew himself up near an IDF checkpoint in the West Bank, wounding at least three Israeli soldiers, one of them seriously, and two Palestinians. Lt.-Col. Shimon, an Israeli commander at the scene, said the incident had occurred as Palestinian farmers crossed through a gate in Israel's separation Wall near Qalqilya. "He looked like an innocent civilian. ... It appears he even spoke to the soldiers," said the officer, who is barred from giving his last name under IDF rules. "Then he turned the bike around and blew up." An anonymous caller to AFPoffices in Nablus said the attack had been carried out by Yussef Taleb Ighbariyeh, 26, from Qalqilya" [6]
source showing that the bomber failed to enter into Israel:
" The Palestinian suicide bomber on a bicycle blew up at a West Bank crossing, wounding three Israeli soldiers, one seriously (his injuries are life-threatening, according to doctors). The bomber blew himself up at the checkpoint after he failed to get into Israel proper. " [8]
-- Zeq ( talk) 17:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
[9], [10] -- Zeq ( talk) 15:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Tiamut I was wondering whether or not Wadi Fukin is included in the Bethlehem Seam Zone area? Its sandwiched between an Israeli town in Gush Etzion and the border with Israel. You could look at any detailed West Bank map for assurance. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 17:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)