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Gaviiformes (North America, Eurasia; 4 species)
Podicipediformes (Worldwide; 20 species)
I have removed these from the list of seabird families. In research today the loons and grebes are treated as waterbirds, not seabirds, and the anhinga is only marine over a tiny portion of its range. The sheathbill is usually treated as a wader/shorebird. I am using the Schreiber & Burger 2002 as a guide in this respect, and if anyone feels strongly about this then let me know. Sabine's Sunbird 00:22, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is a really good article. I think that it is FA-quality already. Some P. E rson 18:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I've seen a lot of vandalism today on this page as it's featured on the Main Page. Why don't we protect this page from anonymous edits? Mugunth 04:41, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
This is a great article and should be protected from vandalism, anonymous edits, etc.
The first line of this article reads "Seabirds are birds that have adapted to life in the marine environment." Clicking on the " marine" link, I find the first line there: "Marine biology is the scientific study of the plants, animals and other organisms that live in the ocean." So is there another word that can be used in the seabirds article? Or is someone suggesting that seabirds "live in the ocean"? Applejuicefool 14:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
+ I agree. It should say " adapted to exploit the marine environment. In fact, I'll change it now. I'm no scientist, but I would say that it mkes sense. Tourskin.
Note, they do NOT live in a marine environment. They merely exploit the ecosystem of a marine environment. Tourskin.
I'm afraid you're wrong - Penguins like all sea birds only go to the sea to hunt. They don't live there as a human lives in a house, or a bird lives in the trees. Pardon the bluntness. So I'm changing it back because no sea bird lives in the sea. A large amount of time is spent by Penguin chickc and parents waiting for their partners / parents to bring in food. Tourskin.
Well I think the time has come - I think we should get people to start voting as to whether the first sentence should be "adapted to life in a marine environment" or "adapted to exploit a marine environment". So can someone initiate this? Tourskin 00:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I give up. This is certainly not worth the arguement. I just thought it was inaccurate. Tourskin
The phrase 'adapted to life in a marine environment' is not great. But mostly because it's stuffy, not because 'marine' means 'exclusively in/on saltwater' or anything like that. English marine is a straight borrowing of Latin marinus, adjective from mare 'sea', so it means 'having to do with the sea'. To my mind (and American Heritage agrees), that's the only requirement for something to be 'marine'. It doesn't have to be all-saltwater, all the time. On the other hand, 'within the marine environment' does sound like they live underwater. 'Adapted to exploit the marine environment' has the correct meaning, but the stuffiness problem is even worse. I propose: 'Seabirds are birds that are adapted to life on and near the sea.' If you just can't stand that, now's your chance to holler. eritain 08:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I don't like 'on or near' either, and you (Sabine's Sunbird) put your finger on the reason. But answer me some questions about the language of biologists, insomuch as I am a linguist and you are a biologist:
I think your answers to these questions will quite settle my own doubts. Thanks. eritain 06:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Truly deserving of FA status. It's a pleasure to stumble across articles of this quality – really interesting and informative. The pictures are also fantastic. Lh'owon 08:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Instead of the Cross the Albatross/About my neck was hung. I can't see how this becomes a carving, unless there's some bowdlerised version of the poem. Also killing is somewhat more accurate than harming. Jimfbleak 09:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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Hi editors, this article has not been reviewed since 2006 and I am concerned that it does not meet the featured article criteria anymore. Specifically, I am concerned about the "Diet and feeding" section before the next subheading, and the "Seabird families" sections that do not have citations, and various sentences at the end of paragraphs. I also noticed that many citations source the whole journal but do not give the specific page numbers where the cited information can be found. Is anyone interested in bringing this to FA standards? Z1720 ( talk) 23:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
There is some material that could be added to the classification section - such as recent groupings - Aequornithes and more. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 04:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Are ospreys considered seabirds? They hunt over the ocean in much of their range. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lunchopotamus ( talk • contribs) 05:48, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Gaviiformes (North America, Eurasia; 4 species)
Podicipediformes (Worldwide; 20 species)
I have removed these from the list of seabird families. In research today the loons and grebes are treated as waterbirds, not seabirds, and the anhinga is only marine over a tiny portion of its range. The sheathbill is usually treated as a wader/shorebird. I am using the Schreiber & Burger 2002 as a guide in this respect, and if anyone feels strongly about this then let me know. Sabine's Sunbird 00:22, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is a really good article. I think that it is FA-quality already. Some P. E rson 18:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I've seen a lot of vandalism today on this page as it's featured on the Main Page. Why don't we protect this page from anonymous edits? Mugunth 04:41, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
This is a great article and should be protected from vandalism, anonymous edits, etc.
The first line of this article reads "Seabirds are birds that have adapted to life in the marine environment." Clicking on the " marine" link, I find the first line there: "Marine biology is the scientific study of the plants, animals and other organisms that live in the ocean." So is there another word that can be used in the seabirds article? Or is someone suggesting that seabirds "live in the ocean"? Applejuicefool 14:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
+ I agree. It should say " adapted to exploit the marine environment. In fact, I'll change it now. I'm no scientist, but I would say that it mkes sense. Tourskin.
Note, they do NOT live in a marine environment. They merely exploit the ecosystem of a marine environment. Tourskin.
I'm afraid you're wrong - Penguins like all sea birds only go to the sea to hunt. They don't live there as a human lives in a house, or a bird lives in the trees. Pardon the bluntness. So I'm changing it back because no sea bird lives in the sea. A large amount of time is spent by Penguin chickc and parents waiting for their partners / parents to bring in food. Tourskin.
Well I think the time has come - I think we should get people to start voting as to whether the first sentence should be "adapted to life in a marine environment" or "adapted to exploit a marine environment". So can someone initiate this? Tourskin 00:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I give up. This is certainly not worth the arguement. I just thought it was inaccurate. Tourskin
The phrase 'adapted to life in a marine environment' is not great. But mostly because it's stuffy, not because 'marine' means 'exclusively in/on saltwater' or anything like that. English marine is a straight borrowing of Latin marinus, adjective from mare 'sea', so it means 'having to do with the sea'. To my mind (and American Heritage agrees), that's the only requirement for something to be 'marine'. It doesn't have to be all-saltwater, all the time. On the other hand, 'within the marine environment' does sound like they live underwater. 'Adapted to exploit the marine environment' has the correct meaning, but the stuffiness problem is even worse. I propose: 'Seabirds are birds that are adapted to life on and near the sea.' If you just can't stand that, now's your chance to holler. eritain 08:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I don't like 'on or near' either, and you (Sabine's Sunbird) put your finger on the reason. But answer me some questions about the language of biologists, insomuch as I am a linguist and you are a biologist:
I think your answers to these questions will quite settle my own doubts. Thanks. eritain 06:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Truly deserving of FA status. It's a pleasure to stumble across articles of this quality – really interesting and informative. The pictures are also fantastic. Lh'owon 08:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Instead of the Cross the Albatross/About my neck was hung. I can't see how this becomes a carving, unless there's some bowdlerised version of the poem. Also killing is somewhat more accurate than harming. Jimfbleak 09:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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Hi editors, this article has not been reviewed since 2006 and I am concerned that it does not meet the featured article criteria anymore. Specifically, I am concerned about the "Diet and feeding" section before the next subheading, and the "Seabird families" sections that do not have citations, and various sentences at the end of paragraphs. I also noticed that many citations source the whole journal but do not give the specific page numbers where the cited information can be found. Is anyone interested in bringing this to FA standards? Z1720 ( talk) 23:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
There is some material that could be added to the classification section - such as recent groupings - Aequornithes and more. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 04:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Are ospreys considered seabirds? They hunt over the ocean in much of their range. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lunchopotamus ( talk • contribs) 05:48, 13 April 2019 (UTC)