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I was born in Taiwan in 1961 while my father (then a freshly minted civil engineer) was in the US Navy leading a Sea-Bee battalion building some of the island's first paved roads outside the capital to ring the island for defense against Chinese invasion. However, Taiwan does not even appear in the article, and I am not sure where to add a sentence mentioning that period of road building. My Dad is still alive but very old (86!). He could write a sentence or two if someone can point to or create a section where such belongs. Jeffryfisher ( talk) 00:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Another REALLY MESSED UP PAGE which causes the whole thing to run into the right margin. We are encountering more and more of these where tables are being used. -- Zoe
Could you produce a screenshot of this and upload it? I and not experiencing trouble when I downsize my browser window. -- mav
This entry is a good one, but it is more of a Press Release. While it has good general information summarizing the Seabees, it lacks depth. Heck, there isn't even a link to the IMDB entry on The Fighting Seabees ;-)
I was wondering if there are any other current or former Seabees (such as myself) who would like to help work on a new entry. I was thinking of expanding a bit on the history (maybe doing a separate entry on the CEC), going over the ratings (SW, BU, EA, CE, UT, EO, CM), and the current state of the Seabees.
Despite what the current article states, Seabees have units other than NMCBs and PHIBCBs. Naval Construction Force Support Units (NCFSU) are another type of unit, plus Seabees are also involved in the First Lieutenant's office on many (if not all) US Navy bases and Underwater Construction Teams (UCT).
Anyone interested?
A lot of this page is taken verbatim from the Seabee website for the Navy CEC
Would like to get our beginning history corrected. Please add our Camp Allen, Camp Bradford history. REF http://hamptonroadsnavalmuseum.blogspot.com/2015/08/remembering-project-much-bigger-than.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfogienmcb7 ( talk • contribs) 10:08, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
to singular from plural, following Wikipedia naming policy —Morven 23:54, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
Is it just me or do the statements supported by references one and two directly contradict each other? 24.150.45.19 ( talk) 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It wasn't just you, but I fixed it. Smartguy777 ( talk) 06:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC).
Richard Karn the actor who played Al Borland on Home Improvement was A Seabee too.He was a BU3(Builder Third Class)in the 70's stationed at CBC Port Hueneme, Calif.He was in NMCB 3 or 5 cannot remember which.Butch Tavares of the 70's disco/soul group Tavares was also a Seabee and also a BU3 in either NMCB 3 or 5 from 72 until 76.
Lou Santiago, who I first became aware of because of the PowerBlock automobile related shows on Spike TV, was a SeaBee as well. John Wayne was not a SeaBee, although he DID play one on TV (or movies, same idea). 32.212.104.223 ( talk) 00:03, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Link http://www.shop.seabeesmuseum.com/main.sc seems to be correct, since it's the same site as the museum, but today a merchandise link was added to http://www.seabeemuseumstore.org/shop/homepage.php as well. Which is the official site? -- CliffC ( talk) 20:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I've tagged the "In popular culture" section because none of the claims are referenced, and because none of them seem to meet the requirements outlined in the tag. If those requirements aren't met within a reasonable period, I'm thinking of deleting the whole section. Lou Sander ( talk) 15:11, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
do seabees typically serve on ships or are they land based?
Today they are land based. In the 1940s and 1950s they traveled by ship and were actually stationed on atemporary landling field ship.
The root verb Construo means "to pile; to load up; to build". Construimus means "we build [it or them] up". Pugno means merely "to fight; to do battle". Batuo, on the other hand, translated literally means "to pound, beat, or strike"; it can also mean to hit with a weapon, like a baculus (club or mace). The verb implies beating somebody bloody, smashing something to bits with your bare hands, or beating it with a stick. Batuimus therefore means "we beat [it or them] down". Hotspur23 ( talk)
Does anyone have information about uniform regs for Seabees? I have recently seen them in the NWU and a woodland variant (not MARPAT colors) out of NCBC Gulfport, though they participated in the area Veterans' day parade with the whole contingent in BDUs. Noderaser ( talk) 23:57, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
I moved the article under the current name and created a disambiguation page. It might take a while until I fix all redirects and such. Help is always welcome. Tupsumato ( talk) 21:42, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 17:13, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Seabee → Seabee (disambiguation); Seabee (United States Navy) → Seabee – The U.S. Navy Seabees are the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the "Seabee" term; the move to the disambiguated name was undiscussed and unneeded based on WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:COMMONNAME. The Bushranger One ping only 05:15, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Being a regular Navy (ABHAN) of three years, a Seabee vet of 6 years (after the previous, leaving as a BU2), and an Iraqi veteran with the "Bees"; am I wrong in assuming the Seabee image on this page is wrong? Originally our image was drawn using all 3rd class petty officers (a "crow" and one chevron but definitely no rocker on the top). Later (from my understanding with my battalion) it changed to an image with the bee having from one chevron to all three chevrons. To my knowledge I have never heard of our bee being a chief (which the only rank that might work is the third leg of the bee) ever being a chief. The first two legs of the "bee" (in this image), in my knowledge, do not exist having "rockers" on top of one or even two chevrons. If I am incorrect please let me know; as I love my bees and serving with them. I am now trying to collect memorabilia. Any feedback would be nice. Just trying to keep my facts straight. Thank you. 2001:5B0:22FF:1CF0:0:0:0:3A ( talk) 04:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
During one of my visits to the Davisville, RI SeaBee Museum, I picked up the following copy of a page someone had done about the Bees. If anyone happens to know actual origin source information, might be helpful. Posting this more as for interest in those tidbits about the SeaBees. I am capitalizing the B in SeaBee to more closely follow the actual words the name came from. (Following capitalization in this page/entry and/or spelling issues were copied from the page as-is.)
WHAT IS A SEABEE?
Between the awkwardenss of a soldier and the dignity of a Marine there is a questionable character called a Seabee.
Seabees come in assorted sizes, shapes, and weights, but all have the same code: to enjoy every second of every hour of every day, whether at work or at play, and to protest by griping (their most beloved privilege) when issued an order.
Seabees are found everywhere: on top of, inside of, climbing on, swinging from, running around, or more likely than not, turning to.
Mothers and sweethearts love them, fathers are proud of them, brothers look up to them, sisters admire them, Airdales hate them, Company Commanders tolerate them, and Chief Petty Officers drive them.
A Seabee is a composite: he has the appetite of a horse, the digestion of a sword swallower, the energy of a pocket-sized atomic bomb, the curiosity of a cat, the lungs of a dictator, the imagination of a Paul Bunyon, the slyness of a violin, the enthusiasm of a firecracker, and the spirit of a fighting cock. He likes: liberty, leave, holidays, weekends, girls, chow, beer, movies, gedonks, swimming, pin-ups, sleep and comic books.
He isn't too hot for: duty nights, watches, taps, reveille, routine discipline, officers, drills or secured heads.
Nobody else is so early to rise without actually wanting to get up. No other person, gets so much fun out of liberty or Shore Patrol. No one can have so much fun on so little money.
A Seabee is a magical creature: you can chew him out but you can't get the work done without him; he is dirty, unpolished, unkempt, often overbearing and sometimes reluctant.
A Seabee is a man of magical abilities: he can weld, build, drive, repair and fight, he can wreck or he can beautify, he can make something out of nothing, work never tires him nor does he seem to tire of it.
His motto is "Can Do," to which he has added "Has Done" and "Did:" this frequently miraculous occurance is recognized in the form of a "Well Done" by everyone from the Commanding Officer on down.
The average Seabee is a thick-headed individual of a variety of nationalities. He won't admit it to anyone or anywhere except in the defense of his corps that his is the best job in the Navy. Without him the Fleet would have nothing to gripe about; Marines would have nothing to talk about and history would have nothing to write about.
Hopefully someone who doesn't know as much about SeaBees can learn a little more. 32.212.104.223 ( talk) 17:45, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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The article doesn't name it clear.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:FECD:1400:6833:4A9F:5E1A:F021 ( talk) 01:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
It is in the name: Naval Construction Battalion. Mcb133aco ( talk) 23:42, 10 November 2019 (UTC)mcb1233aco Mcb133aco ( talk) 23:42, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
They are Navy. CB is a navy rating not Marine. IamtheKingofThings ( talk) 02:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
True, but as a BUCN. I can say that it felt more marine than Navy especially when your Training NCO is a Marine Corp Master Gunnery Sgt. lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.128.46 ( talk) 02:42, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
And afterwards you had some Fleet officer call you a sailor, right?
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Excellant Question! Ought to remove the USMC segment near the bottom and replace it with the US Navy's. I use the term Segment out of Ignorance - I am sure there is a proper Wikipedia term for it. So "nowadays" if you see a SeaBee in the field working - what does their uniform look like Navy or Marine? (wereas lately they don't look that different) I expect for a while they had Uniforms same as Marines. FYI _ I am under impression for many units in the Vietnam Era "cameoflague" was not yet available. Wfoj3 ( talk) 14:52, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a short reference "Formation 2017" that doesn't point to a full reference. It appears that it should point to either "Introduction 2017" or "Formation 2015". I have looked through the history of the article, and the error appeared in March 2017, when the three "Naval History and Heritage Command" sources were added. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:47, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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20 March 2021 is currently number 6392 Mcb133aco ( talk) 18:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Like many articles related to the US military, this article uses a lot of euphemisms, unnecessary jargon, and defense-contractor speak. The opening paragraph is almost completely unreadable, as it doesn't actually say what the seabees do. (The only thing we get out of it is "construction", since that's in the name.) Jess_Riedel ( talk) 13:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
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I was born in Taiwan in 1961 while my father (then a freshly minted civil engineer) was in the US Navy leading a Sea-Bee battalion building some of the island's first paved roads outside the capital to ring the island for defense against Chinese invasion. However, Taiwan does not even appear in the article, and I am not sure where to add a sentence mentioning that period of road building. My Dad is still alive but very old (86!). He could write a sentence or two if someone can point to or create a section where such belongs. Jeffryfisher ( talk) 00:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Another REALLY MESSED UP PAGE which causes the whole thing to run into the right margin. We are encountering more and more of these where tables are being used. -- Zoe
Could you produce a screenshot of this and upload it? I and not experiencing trouble when I downsize my browser window. -- mav
This entry is a good one, but it is more of a Press Release. While it has good general information summarizing the Seabees, it lacks depth. Heck, there isn't even a link to the IMDB entry on The Fighting Seabees ;-)
I was wondering if there are any other current or former Seabees (such as myself) who would like to help work on a new entry. I was thinking of expanding a bit on the history (maybe doing a separate entry on the CEC), going over the ratings (SW, BU, EA, CE, UT, EO, CM), and the current state of the Seabees.
Despite what the current article states, Seabees have units other than NMCBs and PHIBCBs. Naval Construction Force Support Units (NCFSU) are another type of unit, plus Seabees are also involved in the First Lieutenant's office on many (if not all) US Navy bases and Underwater Construction Teams (UCT).
Anyone interested?
A lot of this page is taken verbatim from the Seabee website for the Navy CEC
Would like to get our beginning history corrected. Please add our Camp Allen, Camp Bradford history. REF http://hamptonroadsnavalmuseum.blogspot.com/2015/08/remembering-project-much-bigger-than.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfogienmcb7 ( talk • contribs) 10:08, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
to singular from plural, following Wikipedia naming policy —Morven 23:54, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
Is it just me or do the statements supported by references one and two directly contradict each other? 24.150.45.19 ( talk) 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It wasn't just you, but I fixed it. Smartguy777 ( talk) 06:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC).
Richard Karn the actor who played Al Borland on Home Improvement was A Seabee too.He was a BU3(Builder Third Class)in the 70's stationed at CBC Port Hueneme, Calif.He was in NMCB 3 or 5 cannot remember which.Butch Tavares of the 70's disco/soul group Tavares was also a Seabee and also a BU3 in either NMCB 3 or 5 from 72 until 76.
Lou Santiago, who I first became aware of because of the PowerBlock automobile related shows on Spike TV, was a SeaBee as well. John Wayne was not a SeaBee, although he DID play one on TV (or movies, same idea). 32.212.104.223 ( talk) 00:03, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Link http://www.shop.seabeesmuseum.com/main.sc seems to be correct, since it's the same site as the museum, but today a merchandise link was added to http://www.seabeemuseumstore.org/shop/homepage.php as well. Which is the official site? -- CliffC ( talk) 20:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I've tagged the "In popular culture" section because none of the claims are referenced, and because none of them seem to meet the requirements outlined in the tag. If those requirements aren't met within a reasonable period, I'm thinking of deleting the whole section. Lou Sander ( talk) 15:11, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
do seabees typically serve on ships or are they land based?
Today they are land based. In the 1940s and 1950s they traveled by ship and were actually stationed on atemporary landling field ship.
The root verb Construo means "to pile; to load up; to build". Construimus means "we build [it or them] up". Pugno means merely "to fight; to do battle". Batuo, on the other hand, translated literally means "to pound, beat, or strike"; it can also mean to hit with a weapon, like a baculus (club or mace). The verb implies beating somebody bloody, smashing something to bits with your bare hands, or beating it with a stick. Batuimus therefore means "we beat [it or them] down". Hotspur23 ( talk)
Does anyone have information about uniform regs for Seabees? I have recently seen them in the NWU and a woodland variant (not MARPAT colors) out of NCBC Gulfport, though they participated in the area Veterans' day parade with the whole contingent in BDUs. Noderaser ( talk) 23:57, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
I moved the article under the current name and created a disambiguation page. It might take a while until I fix all redirects and such. Help is always welcome. Tupsumato ( talk) 21:42, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 17:13, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Seabee → Seabee (disambiguation); Seabee (United States Navy) → Seabee – The U.S. Navy Seabees are the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the "Seabee" term; the move to the disambiguated name was undiscussed and unneeded based on WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:COMMONNAME. The Bushranger One ping only 05:15, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Being a regular Navy (ABHAN) of three years, a Seabee vet of 6 years (after the previous, leaving as a BU2), and an Iraqi veteran with the "Bees"; am I wrong in assuming the Seabee image on this page is wrong? Originally our image was drawn using all 3rd class petty officers (a "crow" and one chevron but definitely no rocker on the top). Later (from my understanding with my battalion) it changed to an image with the bee having from one chevron to all three chevrons. To my knowledge I have never heard of our bee being a chief (which the only rank that might work is the third leg of the bee) ever being a chief. The first two legs of the "bee" (in this image), in my knowledge, do not exist having "rockers" on top of one or even two chevrons. If I am incorrect please let me know; as I love my bees and serving with them. I am now trying to collect memorabilia. Any feedback would be nice. Just trying to keep my facts straight. Thank you. 2001:5B0:22FF:1CF0:0:0:0:3A ( talk) 04:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
During one of my visits to the Davisville, RI SeaBee Museum, I picked up the following copy of a page someone had done about the Bees. If anyone happens to know actual origin source information, might be helpful. Posting this more as for interest in those tidbits about the SeaBees. I am capitalizing the B in SeaBee to more closely follow the actual words the name came from. (Following capitalization in this page/entry and/or spelling issues were copied from the page as-is.)
WHAT IS A SEABEE?
Between the awkwardenss of a soldier and the dignity of a Marine there is a questionable character called a Seabee.
Seabees come in assorted sizes, shapes, and weights, but all have the same code: to enjoy every second of every hour of every day, whether at work or at play, and to protest by griping (their most beloved privilege) when issued an order.
Seabees are found everywhere: on top of, inside of, climbing on, swinging from, running around, or more likely than not, turning to.
Mothers and sweethearts love them, fathers are proud of them, brothers look up to them, sisters admire them, Airdales hate them, Company Commanders tolerate them, and Chief Petty Officers drive them.
A Seabee is a composite: he has the appetite of a horse, the digestion of a sword swallower, the energy of a pocket-sized atomic bomb, the curiosity of a cat, the lungs of a dictator, the imagination of a Paul Bunyon, the slyness of a violin, the enthusiasm of a firecracker, and the spirit of a fighting cock. He likes: liberty, leave, holidays, weekends, girls, chow, beer, movies, gedonks, swimming, pin-ups, sleep and comic books.
He isn't too hot for: duty nights, watches, taps, reveille, routine discipline, officers, drills or secured heads.
Nobody else is so early to rise without actually wanting to get up. No other person, gets so much fun out of liberty or Shore Patrol. No one can have so much fun on so little money.
A Seabee is a magical creature: you can chew him out but you can't get the work done without him; he is dirty, unpolished, unkempt, often overbearing and sometimes reluctant.
A Seabee is a man of magical abilities: he can weld, build, drive, repair and fight, he can wreck or he can beautify, he can make something out of nothing, work never tires him nor does he seem to tire of it.
His motto is "Can Do," to which he has added "Has Done" and "Did:" this frequently miraculous occurance is recognized in the form of a "Well Done" by everyone from the Commanding Officer on down.
The average Seabee is a thick-headed individual of a variety of nationalities. He won't admit it to anyone or anywhere except in the defense of his corps that his is the best job in the Navy. Without him the Fleet would have nothing to gripe about; Marines would have nothing to talk about and history would have nothing to write about.
Hopefully someone who doesn't know as much about SeaBees can learn a little more. 32.212.104.223 ( talk) 17:45, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
This article has quite a lot of images, which in general is typically a good thing. Too many images, however, can create layout issues because they tend to be located apart from the relevant article content they are intended to support. So, if might be a good idea to consider alternative ways to present the images such as galleries or by using templates such as {{ multiple image}} to eliminate any overlapping or badly placed images. There's probably quite a number of different things which can be tried some examples can be found in WP:IUP#Adding images to articles and WP:PIC. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 02:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Unless there are objections the current Tags will be removed. Mcb133aco ( talk)mcb133aco Mcb133aco ( talk)
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The article doesn't name it clear.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:FECD:1400:6833:4A9F:5E1A:F021 ( talk) 01:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
It is in the name: Naval Construction Battalion. Mcb133aco ( talk) 23:42, 10 November 2019 (UTC)mcb1233aco Mcb133aco ( talk) 23:42, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
They are Navy. CB is a navy rating not Marine. IamtheKingofThings ( talk) 02:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
True, but as a BUCN. I can say that it felt more marine than Navy especially when your Training NCO is a Marine Corp Master Gunnery Sgt. lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.128.46 ( talk) 02:42, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
And afterwards you had some Fleet officer call you a sailor, right?
Mcb133aco (
talk) 18:39, 20 March 2021 (UTC)mcb133aco
Mcb133aco (
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18:39, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Excellant Question! Ought to remove the USMC segment near the bottom and replace it with the US Navy's. I use the term Segment out of Ignorance - I am sure there is a proper Wikipedia term for it. So "nowadays" if you see a SeaBee in the field working - what does their uniform look like Navy or Marine? (wereas lately they don't look that different) I expect for a while they had Uniforms same as Marines. FYI _ I am under impression for many units in the Vietnam Era "cameoflague" was not yet available. Wfoj3 ( talk) 14:52, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
There is a short reference "Formation 2017" that doesn't point to a full reference. It appears that it should point to either "Introduction 2017" or "Formation 2015". I have looked through the history of the article, and the error appeared in March 2017, when the three "Naval History and Heritage Command" sources were added. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 05:47, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
The article is currently tagged for listing on the special page for "Long pages". It is currently number 5687 on the that list.
20 March 2021 is currently number 6392 Mcb133aco ( talk) 18:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Like many articles related to the US military, this article uses a lot of euphemisms, unnecessary jargon, and defense-contractor speak. The opening paragraph is almost completely unreadable, as it doesn't actually say what the seabees do. (The only thing we get out of it is "construction", since that's in the name.) Jess_Riedel ( talk) 13:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)