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I removed the following content twice: "The oblique lower body plates' V-shape deflected the energy from anti-tank mines. It was common on many WWII German light armoured vehicles, like Sd.Kfz. 222 and Sd.Kfz. 231 - and perfected in the modern South African CSIR Casspir[citation needed]."
This was removed because:
a) It is uncited and therefore subject to immediate removal even if we believed it was correct.
b) It may not be correct. The 250, 222, 231 etc all had angled plates on the hull sides but flat plates on the hull bottoms. In the absence of any evidence whatsoever that this reduced their vulnerability to mines, the edit cannot stay in the article. This is different from the modern South African designs that feature hull designs specifically intended to minimize mine damage.
c) Tilt-rod and command-detonated mines can go off anywhere under the vehicle, not just under the wheels and tracks.
If someone has cited evidence on this content, terrific, let's put it back in and cite it.
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DMorpheus (
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16:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
"I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information, but it is particularly true of negative information about living persons.–Jimmy Wales [1]"
I am new here but look at WP:BURDEN.
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so there is no standard killing procedure for uncited text and BTW Jimmy Wales is not God. and maybe "the oblique lower body plates' V-shape" were for improved wading abilities, huh? -- 130 .225.204.130 ( talk) 18:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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I removed the following content twice: "The oblique lower body plates' V-shape deflected the energy from anti-tank mines. It was common on many WWII German light armoured vehicles, like Sd.Kfz. 222 and Sd.Kfz. 231 - and perfected in the modern South African CSIR Casspir[citation needed]."
This was removed because:
a) It is uncited and therefore subject to immediate removal even if we believed it was correct.
b) It may not be correct. The 250, 222, 231 etc all had angled plates on the hull sides but flat plates on the hull bottoms. In the absence of any evidence whatsoever that this reduced their vulnerability to mines, the edit cannot stay in the article. This is different from the modern South African designs that feature hull designs specifically intended to minimize mine damage.
c) Tilt-rod and command-detonated mines can go off anywhere under the vehicle, not just under the wheels and tracks.
If someone has cited evidence on this content, terrific, let's put it back in and cite it.
Regards,
DMorpheus (
talk)
16:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
"I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information, but it is particularly true of negative information about living persons.–Jimmy Wales [1]"
I am new here but look at WP:BURDEN.
“ | If you want to request a source for an unsourced statement, consider tagging a sentence by adding the {{ fact}} template, a section with {{ unreferencedsection}}, or the article with {{ refimprove}} or {{ unreferenced}}. Alternatively, you may leave a note on the talk page requesting a source, or you may move the material to the talk page. | ” |
so there is no standard killing procedure for uncited text and BTW Jimmy Wales is not God. and maybe "the oblique lower body plates' V-shape" were for improved wading abilities, huh? -- 130 .225.204.130 ( talk) 18:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)